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Feldbahnmodule with ship

Started by fspg2, April 21, 2011, 12:42:16 AM

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Krusty

Pertinax is a trade name for a type of compressed phenolic-resin-impregnated paper material. FWIW the brands I've used are Tufnol and Industrial Formica. Doubtless there are others. You'd have to ask at your local engineering supplies company (if you can still find such a thing these days).
Kevin Crosado

"Caroline Wheeler's birthday present was made from the skins of dead Jim Morrisons
That's why it smelt so bad"

fspg2

#946
Hi Stuart,

Properties of hard paper (Pertinax is a brand name):
The material is weather-resistant, moisture-resistant - but heat-resistant only up to approx. 120° Celsius.

In addition to Kevin's statement, I would also like to point out that soldering produces fumes that are said to be carcinogenic - at least classified as hazardous to health!
A dust mask and extraction should be the rule!

When soldering with my resistance soldering device, the hard paper is only heated at certain points - with the soldering iron I have much larger dark spots in the soldering gauge.

The advantage over MDF or wood is the stability, it can be used much more often when soldering the same parts. After a final cleaning with detergent and water, I can solder further parts without losing dimensional accuracy after drying with the airbrush. I could not achieve this with MDF.


Soldering jig 01 (fspg2)


See also post scrolling down 20.08.2015:
https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=1424.210

Examples of solder fume extraction: Click

Before you compare prices on the internet, you can also look for plastic processing companies in your area.
I like to have a look at the leftover stock at a dealer near me.
Even if they don't always have all material thicknesses in stock for €4.00 + VAT/kg, it's worth it!
Frithjof

Stuart

Thank you Kevin and Frithjof.  I'm going to need to scout around to see if I can find a similar product in my location. What I have discovered so far is that this material is costly and comes in large sheets which would be much more than I would need or could store conveniently.

Stuart

Lawrence@NZFinescale

Quote from: Stuart on April 14, 2025, 06:30:29 PMThank you Kevin and Frithjof.  I'm going to need to scout around to see if I can find a similar product in my location. What I have discovered so far is that this material is costly and comes in large sheets which would be much more than I would need or could store conveniently.

Stuart
Years ago I walked into a premises manufacturing switchboards and raided their off cut bin.  I don't think I paid anything, but if I did it wasn't much.  I'm still using the material for jigs etc.  Harder to find local manufacturing these days. You can buy small pieces cheaply from China. (Not as cheaply if you are in the US of course).  eBay also has listings (mostly Chinese) but some are from the US.  Search 'phenolic sheet'.
Cheers,

Lawrence in NZ
nzfinescale.com

Ray Dunakin

Visit my website to see pics of the rugged and rocky In-ko-pah Railroad!

Ray Dunakin's World

Stuart

I have discovered that Amazon.com sells phenolic sheet goods in small sizes and in varying thicknesses.  I should have checked there first. They seem to have just about everything.

Stuart

finescalerr


Lawton Maner

#952
I go with Russ!  Jeff Bezos should not be subsidized as his labor practices are definitely third world. And, eBay tends to be cheaper in the long run. 

Phenolic sheet.  Try this link:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=%27phenolic+sheet%27.&_sacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2540003.m570.l1313

fspg2

When Ulf came to visit many years ago and surprised me with ready-sawn boards for three extension modules for the harbor area, I only built one of the harbor modules.... the remaining boards had been waiting for their destination for 15 years.

After spending most of the last few months working on the small rivets and screws, I'm now going to do some more rough work.

As I don't like visible screws on the outside of modules at all, all vertical outer sides and inner struts were glued and screwed from the inside with 20mm x 20mm wooden strips, just like the first field railway module in 2007.

1.Modul-Feldbahnhubbruecke (fspg2)



The 25mm x 25mm aluminum square feet are height-adjustable and are held in corresponding guides.

Beinbefestigung_2 (fspg2)




The first port module, completed in 2010, is located here:

Hafenmodul_002 (fspg2)



I have to admit that until now it has served as an additional storage surface for anything that needed to be quickly put to one side.

Hafenmodul_003 (fspg2)




Today I docked the second module...

Hafenmodul_04 (fspg2)



...while the next prepared wooden parts for the third module are waiting to be assembled.

Hafenmodul_005 (fspg2)




The following sketches show the overall dimensions of all the modules.
The three harbor modules were originally planned with a depth of 1.20m - they were finally made to 1.50m x 1.0m. By extending them by 0.3m, I have a little more design space for the landscape.

The blue "harbor basin" for the barge that will deliver the sand and the connecting module between the left bridge module area and the harbor on the right are still missing at the front right.

As a reminder:
To read the small caption on the sketches, just click on the respective picture.
A further click in the image that has now appeared within the gallery shows an enlargement.



Grundriss_Module_005 (fspg2)


Grundriss_Module_006 (fspg2)


Grundriss_Module_007 (fspg2)


Grundriss_Module_008 (fspg2)



Here once again the planned track layout for the light railroad:

Grundriss_Module_004 (fspg2)

Frithjof

finescalerr

Disturbingly neat, clean, and precise. Even the floor. And no visible screws? I can't do any of that even if my mom helps! -- Russ

Ray Dunakin

Visit my website to see pics of the rugged and rocky In-ko-pah Railroad!

Ray Dunakin's World

fspg2

@Russ, @Ray
Many thanks for your approval!

The three port modules have now been completed...

Hafenmodul_06 (fspg2)



...and stand on their legs.

Hafenmodul_07 (fspg2)



The track layout was laid out on a trial basis with the help of printed paper templates.

The turnout planning software from Spur-0-MEC Niederrhein e. V. was a great help.
Unfortunately, I could no longer get it to work: click

Fortunately, I still had printouts that I had created with this software on an old computer in 2007.

Feldbahn-Weiche_links_444mm (fspg2)

Copyright: https://nullclub.webnode.page/weiche-1-0/

These copies were scanned and inserted as a background image in the CAD program. This enabled me to create all the required geometries...

Trassenbrett_Feldbahn -Weiche_444mm (fspg2)



... then all the 4.0 mm poplar plywood route boards came out of the milling machine.
The paper templates will soon be glued onto them. They are used to align the wooden sleepers in the visible are

Hafenmodul_11 (fspg2)



I will later present how the rail area, which is also used by road vehicles, is to be designed.

Hafenmodul_09 (fspg2)


Hafenmodul_10 (fspg2)

Frithjof

finescalerr


Bill Gill

Somehow I missed all your recent work on the modules.
It was very nice reviewing them this morning. Beautiful work.

Lawton Maner

Russ:

With a pocket screw guide even you can build with hidden screws and without cleats.  A visual how to for you to follow:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPFA21ARLZQ