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Started by fspg2, April 21, 2011, 12:42:16 AM

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Ray Dunakin

Visit my website to see pics of the rugged and rocky In-ko-pah Railroad!

Ray Dunakin's World

fspg2

@Bill, @Russ, @Bernhard, @Stuart, @Barney
Gentlemen - thank you very much for your words of praise :)

Now it's time for a bit of hard work again.

The western and eastern side bridges are mounted on support beams, each consisting of 137 individual parts.

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The two sets of four inner cross members are mounted and soldered using a small Pertinax jig.

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The six 1.0 mm rivets on the sides fit into the corresponding holes from the long beams.

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As a test, the first loosely assembled support beam was inserted into the left portal beam - everything fits so far

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A number of wire pins in the upper area of the gantry beam still need to be wound into rivet heads.


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Frithjof

finescalerr


Bernhard

Step by step, the project is becoming more and more impressive.

Bernhard

fspg2

The next steps will follow, so there are a few small parts again today.

In some places, I won't be able to use the finishing cutter to round off the second side of the rivet head when it is installed.
In contrast to the wire pins normally used as rivet replacements, I have fitted some angles and U-profiles with 1.0mm rivets (head diameter 1.3mm - shank 1.0mm). I accepted the different diameters of the head and the opposite side. On the one hand, the corners are hardly visible later and on the other hand, the slightly larger head diameter provides a little more security against falling out when soldering the neighboring parts when assembling the many individual pieces.

Small Pertinax gauges were again used for the vertical and parallel alignment.

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Four of these rivets were soldered into the 6.5mm x 6.5mm nickel silver sheet. My existing rivets were a little too long at 6.0mm, so I had to shorten them first.

I used a 2.0mm thick aluminum angle from the leftover box. The excessively long rivets were inserted into eight 1.0mm holes drilled and shortened on the underside with a side cutter. I then sanded the whole unit smooth on a 400 grit sandpaper, holding the small rivet heads in place with a piece of wood (in the following picture, the piece of wood is pushed to one side to show the rivet heads).

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I then wound the small nickel silver plate with the four shortened rivets...

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(Excerpt from the catalog: https://www.gebr-ott-gmbh.com/werkzeuge-maschinen/)


...a 0.5mm brass sheet with corresponding holes served as a spacer when working with the finishing burr.

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The first of two parts is ready to fit.

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The two support beams are connected to the two lateral portal beam tower sides with the aid of eight straight and eight beveled small L-profiles.

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These were also fitted with the 1.0 mm rivets and soldered in two corresponding Pertinax gauges.

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The rivets of the L-profile still need to be shortened and rounded off.

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Frithjof

finescalerr

Compared to this, my models are crude toys. -- Russ

Lawrence@NZFinescale

We should form a support group...
Cheers,

Lawrence in NZ
nzfinescale.com

Bernhard

Perfect details. Are the long parts also sandblasted? If so, how do you do that?

Bernhard

Ray Dunakin

I think you could probably teach the builders of the real bridge a thing or two!
Visit my website to see pics of the rugged and rocky In-ko-pah Railroad!

Ray Dunakin's World

fspg2

#939
Gentlemen,
please do not exaggerate!

@Bernhard
QuoteAre the long parts also sandblasted? If so, how do you do that?


Yes, I can process parts up to 50 cm long in my two sandblasting booths.
However, as many parts will be significantly larger when assembled, I usually sandblast many individual parts shortly before I take photos.


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True to the saying (Advertising for ZDF - Second German Television) "you see better with the second one", I discovered another error on a second look.

I had already provided small rivets for the connection of the two middle U-profiles with the longitudinal beams in this picture:
 
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A second look revealed something else - the original had hexagon head screws!

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The existing M0.8mm hexagon head screws had to be shortened from 6.0mm to approx. 2.8mm in length for installation.

The required screws were screwed together with three 0.25mm thick washers into a 2.0mm thick brass sheet with existing M0.8mm threaded holes - the protruding ends were cut off and sanded smooth on a sandpaper board. The now smooth threaded ends will certainly be "sharpened"  :)

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Even though assembling and soldering the crossbeam blocks was quite time-consuming and laborious, I was not able to save any time compared to 3D printing with subsequent centrifugal casting...

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...but it was then around €200.00 + postage cheaper.

You certainly can't get rich building models, but the many small partial successes do make you a little happy 


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All the 1.0mm rivets already soldered into the sides of the cross-member blocks and the L-profiles from picture beam assembly 115 were shortened to 2.0mm and then wound with the finishing cutter. A 2.0mm brass sheet with 1.1mm holes helped as a spacer when pinching off (see picture 119 above).


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Once prepared, I soldered the L-profiles to the longitudinal beams. Small Pertinax blocks with corresponding holes ensured that the side rivets remained in position.


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I positioned the parts in a Pertinax jig for precise alignment.

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Instead of soldering the cross member blocks to the long members, I glued the unit together with Loctite 648.
The indentation in the Pertinax gauge was protected with Sellotape to make it easier to wipe off any excess adhesive.  As all parts must be precisely positioned within a maximum of three minutes when gluing with Loctite 648, one side was attached first and fixed in the jig with spacer blocks and small clamps. The second side was then done in the same way.

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The four threaded rods for the leveling blocks must now be fitted.

In addition, the headband magnifier, a small pair of pointed tweezers and certainly some patience will now help to fit the middle float support with the shortened M0.8mm bolts, the washers and the nuts.

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Frithjof

finescalerr

That turned out acceptably. -- Russ

Stuart


fspg2

The four side bridges also need handrails.

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An assembly jig is again used to assemble the individual railing sections at right angles.

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The small 0.8 mm rivets aligned all parts precisely in the corresponding 0.9 mm holes in the Pertinax template when soldering the pre-tinned L-profiles.

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The lower 2.5 mm x 2.5 mm L-profile shown in light green in Figure (Träger-Montage 133 ) was given 3.0 mm wide cut-outs in another Pertinax template.

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In the original bridge, slotted holes were provided between the railings of the secondary bridges and the first vertical supports on the bridgeheads to compensate for temperature-related length differences.

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Although they are shown in the model, they have no function - the temperature expansions will certainly be limited here ;) 

Small brackets (2.0mm x 0.4mm - side length 6.5mm) will connect the side bridge to the fixed railing on the bridge heads (as in the prototype). The small brackets are only soldered to the vertical supports.   
In my model replica, the handrails (drawn in red and green) are placed on the two protruding rivet heads of the small brackets and thus serve to align the handrails.
This will make it easy to remove the side bridges.


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The end pieces of the handrails are bent. In the model, I would have had to bend the 2.5mm x 2.5mm L-profile with an outer radius of 12.0mm.
An attempt to bend an annealed offcut ended up in the scrap.

I then obtained two left and two right parts from a 3.0mm thick MS58 flat profile.

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As I currently have to wait for the next 2.5mm x 2.5mmL profiles to be delivered, the 8.0mm x 5.8mm wooden beams that were sawn from a 20mm x 10mm beechwood strip back in 2014 were...

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...with a rotating wire brush on the pillar drill. This left me with some signs of ageing in the rather hard beech planks.

After an initial bluing with gray-brown wood stain, the parts have already been loaded for testing and are waiting to be transported to the bridge....

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Frithjof

finescalerr

Good golly Miss Molly ... and this is just the beginning! -- Russ

Stuart

Frithjof -

Just a question.  I am unfamiliar with the Pertinax product you commonly use for holding brass pieces in position for either milling or soldering operations.  Is this material unaffected by the heat of a soldering iron?  I use MDF to hold things in position when I do my soldering but it burns and is only good for a single usage.

Stuart