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RLF Shed

Started by eTraxx, October 28, 2010, 09:18:02 AM

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eTraxx

I'm at the start of building a shed for the ongoing Railroad Line Forum contest. No prize .. just bragging rights. Having fun doing it in 1:24. The constraints for the contest are just that the building/shed is 12'x18'. My 'plans' are for a brick portion that is what is left after the rest was 'chopped' .. and a wooden addition. The Sketchup pic below shows how the 'imagineering' has the brick structure chopped and bricked up. In the photo of the build you can see the 'cap' (the brickwork at the top of the wall) primered white. I had got as far as starting to tint the brick when I realized that I needed to add that cap piece so I could get the colors the same. I really hate waiting for paint to dry! The roof will be a flat tar and papered roof. Thinking .. that tissue brought up over the inside 'brick' will prob work .. showing the texture. .. ummm .. no wooden roof for the brick then.

Having great fun doing this. I wanted to thank Don Railton and Marc Reusser for the SBS on using foam to make brick and Chuck Doan for his Gas Station and setting such a high standard to aspire to.
Ed Traxler

Lugoff, Camden & Northern RR

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finescalerr

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Frederic Testard

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Philip Smith

Nice start Ed. Quoin corners would really set it off?

Philip

eTraxx

Thanks guys. Having fun here! :)


Quote from: Philip Smith on October 28, 2010, 05:21:05 PM
Nice start Ed. Quoin corners would really set it off?

Philip

Philip. That's the plan .. partly because it would look good and mostly because it will hide the corners. Were they just cemented on? Was thinking some cracked and missing to show the brick would work too (these would be decorative and not structural). Got some work done tonight coloring and put the roof in. That's just cigarette paper and black acrylic. Figure an old roof would be a gray with different shades showing tar applied at diff times? Repairs using wood, old bottles someone tossed up there .. perhaps a air ventilator ..

One thing I am still thinking about is the mortar. I believe that both Don and Marc used a thinned Spackle for mortar. I've seen where people use some kinda white/gray powder brushed across the brick, then the face wiped off and sealed with matt. Right now I'm leaning toward the thinned Spackle. Suggestions are welcome of course.

Oh .. there will be stone lintels above the doors and windows (to match the Quoins) except for the end of the building with the yellow bricked up door opening which will have an I-beam over the door (rusty of course)
Ed Traxler

Lugoff, Camden & Northern RR

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marc_reusser

#5
Looking Good. I like the coloring and carving in this last photo.

IMO, I think the idea for using Quoins has sailed. Even if they were not structural, and only as decoration, Quoins are stepped/offset, and thus interwoven/interlocked with several rows of brick at each one (as the structural intent of the original Quoins was to physically interlock the joining walls)......I dont see how you are going to get a proper Quoin appearance witout a lot of work.  Though probably later than your intended timeframe.....You might almost be better off using them as simple cast concrete pillars that have brick infill betwen them (a lot of stuff like that in the South American favelas/barrios).....then you can also use a piece of concrete or steel 'T' or 'L' for the headers.


Don't forget to also do the sloped sill...either in a cut/cast stone to match the quoins, or in a sloped header course (is that a also known as a "Sailor" course)?


Marc
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M-Works

eTraxx

Thanks Marc. Quoin then ... not. What I had thought about was similar to your description of the concrete pillar .. just a stone veneer on the corners .. but .. the cast concrete pillars would make a lot more sense. I hadn't even thought about the sill .. but .. yeah .. even with the windows bricked up they would have left the sill in place. Thinking .. if I make the corners and lintels cast concrete then it would make sense to follow with the sills.
Ed Traxler

Lugoff, Camden & Northern RR

Socrates: "I drank WHAT?"

Ray Dunakin

Very nice so far. Concrete sills would look good with the concrete corners, IMHO.
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marc_reusser

#8
Ed,

Just FWIW...here is an example of what I was talking about (the attached image is from a 1922 Architectural Graphic Standards book I had at hand)...now this is not the end all, and only way....these are just a few approaches for specific conditions/designs, other designs would call for changes (IE the quions sitting proud of the brick face, the Size being different, the thickness different, etc.)....but what it does show is how they were interlaced with the adjoining brick walls.

Marc
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In the corners of my mind there is a circus....

M-Works

Malachi Constant

Ed --

Really impressed with both the carving and coloring ... looks great!

Cheers,
Dallas
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Ray Dunakin

Thanks for posting that diagram, Marc. I'm saving that for future reference.
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BKLN

The brick carving looks great. I would give the spackle mortar a try, because your mortar lines are very deep. It will probably mess up your brick paint job, but it might be worth it.

And thanks for introducing me to "Quoins". Never stop learning.

TRAINS1941

Nice job.  Really a great job on the bricks and coloring.

Jerry
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Chuck Doan

I like how that is coming out. I wouldn't get 2 quoins for what I know about bricks and mortar so I will just look and learn.
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shropshire lad

Marc ,

   When you say " sailor" course , do you mean "soldier" course ? ! To me a soldier course is a row of bricks standing on their ends , like soldiers on parade , I guess , and typically used above openings . Either horizontally bedded on a steel lintel or in a shallow arch supporting the weight above . I personnally see them as a modern day detail as they are cheap and easy to do . In times gone by more time and imagination were used to get a nicer looking finish . I don't like them, and whenever I do a brick arch I lay a double row of headers . I'll try and take some pictures of a couple I have done at home .

Ed ,
  This would be a pretty posh shed if it had cut stone lintels, cills and quoins . To me the corners would have much more likely to have been built with brick , along with the lintels/archs over the openings and the only thing I would possibly have in stone would be the cills . But even then I would more expect them to be of brick as well .

  But don't let me put you off using stone if you want to , as I'm sure there would be plenty of examples in real life .

  Nick

  Here is a photo of part of the building I'm modelling at the moment