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Title: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: marc_reusser on January 16, 2010, 04:44:12 PM
I thought this was a very nicely done dio titled "Destination Atlantic". It was posted on the MIG forum by a new member from Germany named Höxter.

I don't know what scale....though from the figures and some of the other objects in the scene I am thinking 1/35....which makes the sub quite the impressive build (I believe it is scratch, as I have never seen a kit for one.)


(http://www.migproductionsforums.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=3411&mode=view/gesamt 057.jpg)

(http://www.migproductionsforums.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=3412&mode=view/gesamt 027.jpg)

(http://www.migproductionsforums.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=3413&mode=view/gesamt 036.jpg)

(http://www.migproductionsforums.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=3414&mode=view/Rohbau 254.jpg)

(http://www.migproductionsforums.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=3415&t=1)



Marc


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: Krusty on January 16, 2010, 05:54:20 PM
It looks very much like Andrea's 1:32-scale U-Boat conning tower kit, with improved detailing (Andrea also does a complete U-boat kit in 1:32 scale, if you've got a few thousand Euros to spare). They do a handful of crew in 1:32 scale, but their main range of U-boat crewmen is in 1:72 scale (and very nice as Braille Scale goes).

Edit: Well I got that one wrong. He's since posted on the Mig forum that it's an Accurate Armour 1:35-scale conning tower on a scratchbuilt hull.


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: Tom Neeson on January 16, 2010, 06:28:45 PM
Nice modeling I suppose...but man, where is the focus? A couple guys sitting reading the paper, a ships captain leaning against a wall, looking like he's about to hurl, some diver bobbing up in the water.

Sorry, having a bad day and grumpy.

Tom


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: Philip Smith on January 16, 2010, 09:38:19 PM
a typical re arm scene.....10 different things going on at once. beans, bullets, POL's
Nicely done!

Philip


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: shropshire lad on January 17, 2010, 03:53:46 AM
Marc ,

  That diorama was at EuroMilitaire . And jolly nice it was to . Not as nice as Ulf Blomgren's "Schiffstratten ", but to me that was exceptional .

Tom ,

    Why does it need focus ?  It is portraying a scene of a dozen different people doing a dozen different things , how can you focus on one thing .

  Nick , not having a bad day and feeling fine


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: Hauk on January 17, 2010, 05:29:47 AM
Beautiful modelling, no doubt about it!

But not a very convincing scene.
The diorama is  good expample of modellers tendency to romanticize things.

This looks like a leisure craft picking up supplies during a nice holiday trip along the french coast. 

Take a look at the sort of fascilities the german U-boats docked at in France:
http://www.uboat-bases.com/ang/index.php (http://www.uboat-bases.com/ang/index.php)

Of course it is impossible to portray a u-boat base like this in 1/35, but I feel that a very skilled modeller (as we are certainly dealing with here!) could come up with a more interesting diorama.

Regards, Håvard H


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: Marc988 on January 17, 2010, 06:01:05 AM
Nice dio  !!

Accurate Armouw also makes a waterline model of the complete sub ! http://www.accurate-armour.com/ShowProduct.cfm?manufacturer=0&category=13&subcategory=27&product=587 (http://www.accurate-armour.com/ShowProduct.cfm?manufacturer=0&category=13&subcategory=27&product=587)  You only need an additional spare hobby room for a dio with this beast  ;D

That diorama was at EuroMilitaire . And jolly nice it was to . Not as nice as Ulf Blomgren's "Schiffstratten ", but to me that was exceptional .
 

Now you make me curious !   ;)   Any links/pics of the other dio ?!   ::)


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: Franck Tavernier on January 17, 2010, 11:23:46 AM
Mumm, focus you said?

(http://www.jbadiorama.com/dump/56/galilee-2-1-dioram_100_g.jpg)

(http://www.jbadiorama.com/dump/58/the-womb-diorama-_94_g.jpg)

(http://www.jbadiorama.com/dump/55/jaws-diorama-_32_g.jpg)

(http://www.jbadiorama.com/dump/48/jbadiorama-sokol-_84_g.jpg)

(http://www.jbadiorama.com/dump/43/138297_g.jpg)

(http://www.jbadiorama.com/dump/46/294846_g.jpg)

(http://www.jbadiorama.com/dump/42/11_4187_g.jpg)

(http://www.jbadiorama.com/dump/47/abbey11821_g.jpg)

http://www.jbadiorama.com/

Enjoy!  ;)

Franck



Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: Tom Neeson on January 17, 2010, 01:11:47 PM
Definately great modeling, no question about that, I just feel the dio would benefit by removing some unnecessary figures.

And yes, the work on the JBA Diorama site is amazing, his water effects are ridiculously good. Very thought provoking.

Tom


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: Krusty on January 17, 2010, 04:11:39 PM
Oooh! Oooh! Oooh!

Jean-Bernard André!!! We are not worthy!!!

That guy has got to be my all-time hero when it comes to diorama modelling. He takes it from modelling to art. There are people who are better modelling technicians, but he has no equal when it comes to story-telling, mood and message.


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: shropshire lad on January 18, 2010, 03:13:52 AM
Of course , we are not comparing "like for like" here , because they are two totally different types of modelling .

 Tom , you are probably right that Hoxter's diorama could do with losing a few figures , but as it is trying to portray a scene of frenetic activity, the newspaper loungers apart, there does need to be quite a number of figures . If all we can criticise it for is not having a focus and too many figures then he hasn't done to badly . Actually , there are lots of things one could comment on , but the overall effect is pleasing .

  "Sokol" (the chap hanging his washing up) is still my favourite JBA diorama ,


   Nick


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: DaKra on February 04, 2010, 09:58:33 AM
Can't get excited about it.   Something I've noticed in several large scale dioramas that detracts-- figures dressed for  different weather in the same scene.   Here some sitting around in shirtsleeves, and others are standing around dressed for sea duty in full leather coats and pants and scarves and binoculars.   Consistency is lacking. 


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: Andi Little on February 08, 2010, 09:37:27 AM
Newbie here!......................


WOW........... Tough crowd!


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: shropshire lad on February 08, 2010, 01:01:08 PM
Welcome Andi to SPNP .

   Or better know as the Society for Pedants and Nit Pickers . To fully endorse your membership just post some photos of your work here and leave the rest to the Boyz !

   I promise you WILL recover . Eventually .


  Nick


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: finescalerr on February 08, 2010, 02:16:43 PM
They tend to go easy on me because they realize I'm beyond hope. Or maybe because I'm the forum administrator. I've never been quite certain of the reason .... -- Russ


Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: marc_reusser on February 08, 2010, 03:14:53 PM
Russ,

In order to get critiqued you actually need to build something  ;) ;D ;D

MR




Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: Ray Dunakin on February 08, 2010, 09:21:58 PM
Welcome aboard, Andi!



Title: Re: Waterfront Diorama (WW2)
Post by: finescalerr on February 09, 2010, 02:40:59 AM
Marc, you know darned well I built something ... a few years ago. Quit exaggerating. -- Russ