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Title: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on September 19, 2017, 12:27:16 PM
Hello together, after I have been working mainly lately with the solution, the automation of my monastery model, it goes also with the Xrot.

It goes on the tender rolls and springs.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F7179%2F13XrotTender01.jpg&hash=1b38a512661ac700e022a0f70814abc2d28d40ac)
The brackets for the suspension are brazed. The wheels are turned LGB spoke wheels with the wheels from the action. The soldered rocker, which once again lies on the wheel bearing, already consists of 3 parts and has only 3 mm diameter.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F7179%2F13XrotTender02.jpg&hash=07620a055404d20903e7df0bc461b5128365d94a)
The wheels fit with the low sprockets much better and would be spring loaded otherwise touch the tender ground.

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The rollable tender on my facility.

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Details of suspension.

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In order to make tests it was easy to connect an LGB locomotive. All test journeys were pushed and pulled, also ran smoothly in turnouts.
Title: Re: RhB steam skimmer Xrot 9213
Post by: Ray Dunakin on September 19, 2017, 11:24:24 PM
Holy cow! Stunning work!
Title: Re: RhB steam skimmer Xrot 9213
Post by: Hauk on September 20, 2017, 02:45:58 AM
Quote from: Design-HSB on September 19, 2017, 12:27:16 PM
The wheels are turned LGB spoke wheels with the wheels from the action.

Nice project!

I might be wrong, but it seems that you have encountered a very common problem when turning the wheels. The surface shows sign of chatter, and If I am right, I might have some suggestions for how to avoid it on future projects.
Title: Re: RhB steam skimmer Xrot 9213
Post by: Design-HSB on September 20, 2017, 04:58:39 AM
Thank you Hauk, I think there are only the lights of my workplace lighting. Yes with the good old light bulb, that would not have happened.
Title: Re: RhB steam skimmer Xrot 9213
Post by: Bill Gill on September 20, 2017, 07:25:08 AM
Helmut, beautiful work!
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213
Post by: finescalerr on September 20, 2017, 11:06:57 AM
Satisfactory. -- Russ
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213
Post by: 1-32 on September 21, 2017, 04:18:28 PM
hi Helmut.
your creation is coming together very well .
cheers kim
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213
Post by: Design-HSB on March 31, 2018, 06:20:58 AM
Meanwhile, a lot has happened. For the Toy Fair in Nuremberg LGB has announced the Xrot R13 as a ready-made model. After that, we decided to get out of the joint project and build the very similar Xrot R12. The R12 has no driven chassis but must be pushed, it is also green and not brown. We will then get a model, which is not to be confused with the industrial model.

Meanwhile, I have designed the bogies and made almost everything for it. For the sample, I put together a journal bearing, but it still lacks a clamping bracket.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.design-hsb.de%2FR12Achslager03w.jpg&hash=b36be964424555d0d0876099b1129398925df60d)
The items

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.design-hsb.de%2FR12Achslager01w.jpg&hash=9841e2a074e2d639b8d39228a97ce7ec4197e260)
The axle bearing, the hole for the lock has 1mm

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.design-hsb.de%2FR12Achslager02w.jpg&hash=993f9b78ae0d277eeedb6a8d834bddbe7a974e2a)
Of course, the lid can be opened for greasing.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213
Post by: finescalerr on March 31, 2018, 11:55:31 AM
Jewelry. -- Russ
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213
Post by: Ray Dunakin on March 31, 2018, 05:50:58 PM
As always, the quality of your highly precise work is mind-boggling!
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on June 28, 2018, 01:12:52 PM
In the meantime, I was able to produce the missing clamps.
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.design-hsb.de%2FR12Achslager04w.jpg&hash=47812fbff099bfc7a09763daf77cf77069ee52bd)
What is still missing is the clamp holding the lid.
For this I have a 15 X 15 mm brass rod stretched on the milling table.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.design-hsb.de%2FR12Achslager05w.jpg&hash=2f636562abc2359243c1e1d42752854c3bbbd8b2)
After the 2 D construction for 3 sides I was able to work the staff from 3 sides.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.design-hsb.de%2FR12Achslager06w.jpg&hash=cb888b737cf8eff3ceba1061f8f098c097839bda)
After that, I sawed off 8 mm slices of the rod and reworked, now the clamp is already visible.
So remained of 121.6 gr. Brass, 8 pieces clamping bracket, each with 0.2 gr.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.design-hsb.de%2FR12Achslager07w.jpg&hash=846659fa91380eeb21d689b947a33d7180d3db1c)
First of all, an M 0.6 thread was cut into the clamping yoke for the clamping screw. Once everything had been assembled for trial, the function of opening the axle box could be checked again.
After cleaning and blackening the axle bearing, ball bearings are used.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Bill Gill on June 28, 2018, 02:26:22 PM
Helmut, your ability to machine exquisite detail exceeds my ability to praise it highly enough!
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Chuck Doan on June 28, 2018, 06:55:15 PM
Just incredible fabricating!
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: finescalerr on June 28, 2018, 09:16:49 PM
I cannot believe this guy. -- Russ
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Ray Dunakin on June 28, 2018, 10:01:42 PM
Watching all the ways you solve every modeling challenge is endlessly fascinating!
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Greg Hile on June 28, 2018, 10:57:39 PM
What can I say that hasn't already been said, except wow!
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on July 10, 2018, 01:17:12 PM
Thank you very much for your interest and recognition.

In the meantime, I have used the axle box for a trial in the bogie. The spring is thus compressed under full load. Of course, there are still missing the rockers on the spring pad.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.design-hsb.de%2FR12Achslager08w.jpg&hash=393c568fca434aec7b6acebfce897bc611e369de)

Unfortunately I do not have pictures of the original at the moment, which I can show here for comparison. When I bought eyebolts, I simply ground the collar.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: 1-32 on July 11, 2018, 02:43:54 AM
hi Helmut love the adjusters on the leaf spring cheers kim
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Barney on July 12, 2018, 02:29:43 AM
Workmanship of the highest
Barney
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Chuck Doan on July 12, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
Yes indeed, just amazing.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on August 02, 2018, 06:47:05 AM
It continues with the bogies.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.design-hsb.de%2FR12Drehgestell01.jpg&hash=62b4d7b8b02ef0c15e4e256041c1f4188bda6598)
There are 2 different bogies and this is the back.
The front bogie is already finished.
Since the sling has a gigantic model weight, the bogies actually have no suspension but end stops. These end stops can be adjusted via the locknuts. Out of these end stops, the wheels can still spring out of the springs due to small compression springs.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.design-hsb.de%2FR12Drehgestell02.jpg&hash=b7a4a974ccdef05f1690b0ab6e4232caa8b338ec)
Here the counter bearing of the bogie with an axial ball bearing as the model.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: finescalerr on August 02, 2018, 12:08:52 PM
Wow! -- Russ
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Bill Gill on August 02, 2018, 12:09:51 PM
Beautiful work! The weathering on the metal looks good. How did you do it?
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on August 02, 2018, 01:26:14 PM
Bill, there's nothing aged yet, I just blasted the brass with alumina and browned.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Ray Dunakin on August 02, 2018, 04:49:56 PM
That looks amazing! The coloration makes it hard to imagine it's actually brass and not steel.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on August 05, 2018, 07:11:07 AM
Some may have already noticed, originally this was supposed to be a RHB Xrot 9213. Only after the announcement of LGB to bring a r13 to the market and the fact that this colourful railway project unfortunately no longer had the original resonance, Wilhelm and I decided to make the R13 a R12 to be able to finish the project at least for us .

The R12 itself is currently in the processing and we are also following this with interest, more on this [url = http://www.dampfschleuder.ch/] here [/url]:

Today I used to deal with the tender, because it is identical to the same and also identical to the tender of the steam locomotive.

So I used yes for the suspension eye bolts:

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Much to me the picture of the water level sensor-probe from the tender and I had a solution.

Look here today I have built the water level sensor-valves.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.design-hsb.de%2FR12Tender20.jpg&hash=2fbe5a118c33ce63487235e8cbe3c3343a39dd10)

Such a faucet consists of the following parts.

An M1 eye bolt with waistband.
A 2 mm piece of 1 mm tube for the spout.
An angle of 1 mm brass wire with an M1 thread.
With a M1 nut held, the faucet is even still to be operated.

Only there is no water in the tender, therefore no water can come out.

I think the good looks of my burnished brass hangs with my way of processing together. I radiate the parts immediately before the brown with aluminum oxide, which cleans the brass and raut it quite finely. Through this processing, the blueing works much more intensively.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Bill Gill on August 05, 2018, 11:18:03 AM
Looks great, Helmut!
Even though there is no water in the tender, you could pose a very convincing photo by having a worker near one of the valves and temporarily pushing the end of a clear fiberoptic rod lightly into the opening of the faucet and the other end poking into a clear resin puddle on the ground to model a stream of water squirting out.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on August 05, 2018, 12:07:08 PM
Hi Bill,

Therefore, I was glad that after soldering, at least 2 of 3 taps still allowed to move.

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Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Ray Dunakin on August 05, 2018, 11:08:42 PM
Great work on those tiny valves!
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: TRAINS1941 on August 06, 2018, 06:14:36 AM
That is some very fine work.

Jerry
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Chuck Doan on August 09, 2018, 08:23:23 PM
Spectacular crafting!
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: 1-32 on August 12, 2018, 04:19:19 AM
great work Helmut good too see that you are back at the bench,cheers kim
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on December 03, 2019, 01:27:17 PM
Hello

just take a picture of our Xrot R12. Meanwhile with cladding made of milled and engraved 1 mm GRP.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F7179%2F1378739456_833163333765728_3292697202433982464_n.jpg&hash=77b7589f9fb99b3bf406496ab591398b94d47bb9)

In order to see the working engine later, the flaps can be opened naturally.

Xrot R12 02 (Helmut Schmidt)
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Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on December 03, 2019, 02:48:05 PM
Here is a Link  (https://youtu.be/wxvNyensS80) to the homemade hinges to open the flaps.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Ray Dunakin on December 03, 2019, 10:16:47 PM
Wow, that's awesome!
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: finescalerr on December 04, 2019, 11:29:19 AM
Those hinges are so small I couldn't even HOLD them, let alone BUILD them! The rest of the model also is adequate. -- Russ
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: 1-32 on December 04, 2019, 11:10:43 PM
Hi Helmut '
Spectacular work ,do you have a close up of the roters.
cheers
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on December 05, 2019, 02:23:52 PM
Hi Kim,

do you mean this slingshot wheel?

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F7179%2F1320191205_210935.jpg&hash=34a2c3b55ecfcae31f8d0cd304e1c2e1a465eda0)

Here is another picture of a failed hinge, a bore has run.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F7179%2F1320191205_235222.jpg&hash=252f96b482dfcdcea3398d64e599131ee14a112f)

Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Lawton Maner on December 15, 2019, 08:03:57 AM
The rendering of the blower head is so good it is scary.  You are putting many of us to shame.

If the men in white coats frequented this forum there are a number of members would be in lock down.  They would place modelers like us who feel compelled to model rivets (both ends) that will never been seen on the finished model into a warm, quite room with subdued lighting.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on December 15, 2019, 08:25:10 AM
Hello Lawton,
first of all thank you for the recognition.

But the good thing about it is that here in the forum you are among like-minded people who understand and would know this. People who collect model railways in boxes without unpacking them will never understand this, perhaps they belong more in the warm well padded rooms. The main thing is that we finescalers stay together and understand each other.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on February 11, 2022, 03:28:34 PM
In the meantime, the conversion of the tender has been completed.

(https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7179/medium/20220211_224651.jpg) (https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/showphoto.php?photo=131284)

The lids of the water box can be opened naturally.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: finescalerr on February 11, 2022, 06:20:44 PM
Yet another beautiful model. -- Russ
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: 1-32 on February 12, 2022, 09:35:59 AM
Hi Helmut.
That slingshot wheel is very good really.
cheers, Kim.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Bernhard on February 12, 2022, 01:48:07 PM
mpressive work, Helmuth. Are the rivets all real, or partly embossed?

Bernhard
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Barney on February 12, 2022, 01:54:11 PM
Absolutely stunning work  - - -Im voluntary going to the corner 
Barney
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Ray Dunakin on February 12, 2022, 10:37:19 PM
Absolutely stunning! Also, wow, that's a lot of rivets!
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on February 13, 2022, 01:05:26 PM
Hello thank you for the words of appreciation,

in the meantime I have found some time and would like to show some additional explanatory pictures.

(https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7179/medium/20200109_221038.jpg)

That was the starting point of the almost finished Xrot R13 tender.

(https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7179/medium/20220213_210944.jpg)

The water box lids are now also new and not only hinted at

(https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7179/medium/20220213_211007.jpg)

Of course, to open now.
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The drill gauges with which over 1200 additional rivet holes were drilled.
The rivets were glued in.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: finescalerr on February 13, 2022, 01:29:55 PM
I could tell you applied individual rivets and the appearance is better than punched rivets. But, of course, we expect perfection from you .... -- Russ
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on September 10, 2023, 07:10:42 AM
Hello

It goes on cheerfully on the Xrot R12, let's see, maybe someone is interested?

(https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7179/medium/20230909_003614.jpg) (https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/showphoto.php?photo=136041)

Here is the first of the two battery boxes.

(https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7179/medium/20230909_005121.jpg) (https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/showphoto.php?photo=136042)

Of course, the doors can be opened.

(https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7179/medium/20230909_122718.jpg) (https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/showphoto.php?photo=136043)

Meanwhile, blacked out.

(https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7179/medium/20230909_122859.jpg) (https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/showphoto.php?photo=136044)

Let's see how and if it goes on inside?
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Bernhard on September 10, 2023, 08:41:56 AM
Yeah, I am definitely interested, of course! Great work, Helmut.

Bernhard
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: finescalerr on September 10, 2023, 01:23:50 PM
Good to see you back at work. -- Russ
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Ray Dunakin on September 11, 2023, 10:58:00 PM
Awesome! I'm always interested in your amazing models.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Design-HSB on September 30, 2023, 01:39:34 PM
(https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7179/medium/20230927_230832.jpg)

Since you can see the steam dome from outside through the roof, we also recreated it.  The required two safety valves can be seen.  One of them can also be triggered manually according to regulations.  The valves are turned parts made of brass.

(https://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7179/medium/20230929_225726.jpg)

The steam dome with the safety valves has now been fitted under the roof cutout.
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: finescalerr on September 30, 2023, 08:49:14 PM
Crisp detail. -- Russ
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: Ray Dunakin on September 30, 2023, 11:27:13 PM
That looks incredibly good!
Title: Re: RhB steam snow blower Xrot 9213 / R12
Post by: 1-32 on October 08, 2023, 05:44:59 AM
Hi Helmut.
Beautiful work, as usual, your metal work is an inspiration.
cheers Kim