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Title: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: Brent on October 18, 2009, 01:03:09 PM
This O-scale model of the Chama Coal Tipple took over two years to build from the D&RGW blueprints and measurement taken during two site visits. It was built board-by-board from scale basswood lumber, with a balsawood 'cement' pit and Grandt Line parts. The 'tar paper' roofs are single layers of facial tissue cut into 36" wide scale strips glued down with white Elmer's glue and painted Floquil girmy black. The 36" narrow gauge track is hand laid. The photo was taken outside, in direct sunlight, with real vegitation in the background. The auto exposure was 1/30 s at f20, aperture priority.
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: lab-dad on October 19, 2009, 04:48:56 AM
thats it?
Just one picture?......
c'mon, dont be a tease!
-Marty
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: Brent on October 19, 2009, 05:34:23 AM
Since you asked...
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: Brent on October 19, 2009, 05:35:06 AM
and one more.
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: Brent on October 25, 2009, 01:29:44 PM
Here is another photo from the other direction.
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: mobilgas on November 20, 2009, 05:29:05 PM
Brent,       Good Job nice model.......Seems like nobody responds well to the D&RGW on this forum :(  But ill tell you I LIKE IT. I dont care how much has been printed or modeled on the D&RGW it's a cool line and a AMERICAN ICON  ;)  Craig
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: Brent on November 28, 2009, 03:24:35 PM
 Craig,
;) Thanks for the comment on the attitude toward the D&RGW on this forum. I had been wondering why so few had responded. We can't all write about and model something as obscure as the Death Valley Monorail, so I will continue to model the D&RGW narrow gauge. I may even share more photos of my work.
Brent
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: jacq01 on November 28, 2009, 04:52:29 PM

  It is not so much lack of interest in the D&RGW as lack of information of the subject. Based on 4 photo's without details or a overview where it fits in the landscape, it is a bit difficult to form an opinion.  A bit more details of tower and surrounds makes it possible to compare it with photo's or information of the original or one of the many other models built of Chama.

I for myself have seen already so much of the D&RGW, that other ng railways or work from others is far more interesting.

Jacq
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: finescalerr on November 29, 2009, 01:08:15 AM
Whether or not we are tired of the D&RGW, Brent has done some excellent research and modeling to produce very accurate Chama fuel and sand facilities. I published his article on the diorama a few years ago and was very impressed. When a modeler goes to that extent, it makes the result seem fresh regardless of whether some of us find the subject tired.

I have seen more of Brent's modeling than has appeared on this site or in print and have spent some time with him. He's a guy we should help and encourage. He has the skills and raw talent. So let him have it (in the usual fashion). Tell him what's right, suggest improvements, and encourage him in whatever direction you want. I suspect he will rise to the occasion.

Russ
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: mobilgas on November 29, 2009, 07:55:45 PM
Brent,      Buy all means keep posting pictures,when you get some more modeling done.   Craig
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: RoughboyModelworks on December 02, 2009, 10:55:09 PM
Brent:

Very nice job on the Chama Coal tower... really like that setting sun shot with the trees in the background - very effective. Don't worry about whether people are interested in D&RGW here or not. This forum's about fine model-building regardless of the prototype or discipline. Of course, with a bunch of lunatics like us, you tend to get some fairly esoteric prototypes, but it's the modelling that's the main thing for most of us. Look forward to seeing more of your work and photos.

Paul
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: Brent on December 05, 2009, 07:23:42 PM
Perhaps a little more detail on my model will be helpful. The prototype in Chama was one of three built by the D&RGW from the same plans, however each were different depending on the sizes of timber available. The other two similar tipples in Durango and Gunnison were demolished long ago, with only the one in Chama still standing. It has been used briefly by the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad years and restored several times, most recently this past summer. It stands between the roundhouse and two-spout water tanks, all of which are to the north of and across the main line from the depot. The main line and delivery chute are on the west of the tipple. The elevated delivery track and pit are on the east side. Coal was dumped into the delivery pit from drop bottom gondolas where it was gravity loaded into two buckets that transferred the coal to a 25 ton capacity bin above the machinery part of the structure. The buckets were powered by a small gasoline engine and later by and electric motor. Both remain in place. Coal was dumped into locomotive tenders by gravity from the coal bin through a gate and down a chute controlled by the locomotive fireman.

My model will sit in the same place on a layout considerably compressed in length. It was constructed on a Homosote base over plywood. The cement foundation and delivery pit are balsa wood covered with plaster so replicate cement poured in wooden forms. The structures were built from basswood scale lumber board-by-board. Grandt Line parts were used throughout, including NBW castings, doors, windows, buckets and delivery pit ironwork. Some parts, such as the elevator bucket tracks and the coal chute are scratch built of wood, paper and styrene. All track is hand-laid.  This structure, along with the adjacent sand pit and drying house, are complete and waiting for the layout to be built.

My current project it a scale model of the 120 foot long Chama depot. It is nearing completion – I will share photos of it as it has progressed over the last two years.

Brent
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: Brent on December 05, 2009, 07:28:11 PM
Here is a close-up of the coal delivery track and pit.
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Post by: Brent on December 05, 2009, 07:30:25 PM
This shows the base of the structure. The weathering turned out quite well - I like the effect.
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: Ray Dunakin on December 05, 2009, 09:00:21 PM
Cool. I especially like that last photo, looks very realistic.

Do you know if the tipple was restored to operating condition, or just cosmetic?

Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: Brent on December 06, 2009, 01:29:12 PM
I do not know how close to being usable the tipple is.  Last year the rotted west bottom sill was replaced and the structure jacked to vertical -- it was leaning to the west and was unstable.  This year the siding on the hoist house was replaced and the roofs repapered.
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: Ray Dunakin on December 06, 2009, 08:51:00 PM
Sounds like it really could use a major overhaul. Not surprising on a wooden structure that old.

Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: Brent on December 31, 2009, 11:05:21 AM
I just received a publication from the Friends of the Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad that said the Chama coal tipple had more work done on it last summer. The structure was leveled and plumbed, lots of siding replaced, the coal dump cleaned out, the bucket wells drained, and the buckets run up and down using the electric motor that has been there for years. That sounds like progress to me! Perhaps it will operate again someday -- I would like to see that!
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: JohnP on December 31, 2009, 07:26:14 PM
Brent, I like the model photos. The sunny one looks great. The model has a well-balanced appearance, with enough detail and finishing to be a centerpiece on a layout. The timbers look properly proportioned, the roof reasonable, the coal delivery structure is realistically sized, etc. From what I see in the forum many modelers here would have worked over each piece of wood before assembly- distress, finish, weathering. But I bet there was a great pleasure in assembling the complex frame from new wood as seen in the photos. Why not?

Is this going on a layout?

John
Title: Re: Chama Coal Tipple
Post by: Brent on January 15, 2010, 12:44:45 PM
  A layout is the goal. After a career in the military, with many relocations, I now have a home with an unfinished basment. (I do not plan to move again.) The layout will go in the basement. There is a space about 35 feet long in which to replicate a compressed version of the Chama yard and facilities -- not long enough but I can capture the essence. I also plan to model the historic (1938) Cumbres Pass facilities, including the wye with its snowshed. See the attached Otto Perry photos from the Dernver Public Library.