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General Category => General Forums => Topic started by: Barney on November 15, 2024, 02:36:11 PM

Title: A bad case of CRAP
Post by: Barney on November 15, 2024, 02:36:11 PM
The worst ever ! from Grandt Line Products Or whatever they call themselves Now! Has Quality control gone out of the window Compared with the excellent range from MasterClub (below )
Barney
Title: Re: A bad case of CRAP
Post by: finescalerr on November 15, 2024, 08:58:52 PM
Grandt created the tooling for those NBWs about 50 years ago and the quality was poor even fifteen years ago. I know the guys who bought Grandt Line and they always have done their best to produce quality products. Maybe it's just time to retool or, if that's too expensive, eliminate the parts from their catalog.

By the way, both photos show the same sprues.

Russ
Title: Re: A bad case of CRAP
Post by: Ray Dunakin on November 15, 2024, 10:54:31 PM
That's disappointing.
Title: Re: A bad case of CRAP
Post by: Les Tindall on November 15, 2024, 11:44:13 PM
I changed to Master Club nbw's and rivets a couple years ago after being disappointed in the Grandt Line products.
Title: Re: A bad case of CRAP
Post by: shropshire lad on November 16, 2024, 12:19:13 PM
I recently bought some modern day  Grandt Line 0 scale strap hinges and they definitely are crap compared to the old ones I have had for years.
Title: Re: A bad case of CRAP
Post by: Cor on November 17, 2024, 09:51:03 AM
I buy now from tichy
https://www.tichytraingroup.com/Shop/tabid/91/c/o_nbw-rivets/Default.aspx

Cor
Title: Re: A bad case of CRAP
Post by: Barney on November 17, 2024, 01:28:53 PM
Yes I have used Titchy and they are pretty good and available here in the UK
Barney
Title: Re: A bad case of CRAP
Post by: Lawrence@NZFinescale on November 17, 2024, 02:47:06 PM
I drew up an NBW yesterday for a friend in a coupe of minutes, copied and scaled to produce a few hundred in various sizes, and printed in around 30 minutes for what is probably a lifetime supply.

They were generic, but you can do exactly what you want very simply.
Title: Re: A bad case of CRAP
Post by: finescalerr on November 17, 2024, 09:05:27 PM
Lawrence, does that mean you 3-D printed a variety of NBWs? If so, and since we are familiar with the quality of your work, some guys on the forum might want to place an order. -- Russ
Title: Re: A bad case of CRAP
Post by: Lawrence@NZFinescale on November 18, 2024, 09:44:42 AM
Quote from: finescalerr on November 17, 2024, 09:05:27 PMLawrence, does that mean you 3-D printed a variety of NBWs? If so, and since we are familiar with the quality of your work, some guys on the forum might want to place an order. -- Russ

It does and you could.

But it's literally minutes and with the number of printers in the world today you could do your own, or find someone in your local hobby circle that could.  That way you'd get exactly what you want.  I'm happy to share the .stl with anyone who wants it (too large to attach here), but you'd be stuck with the sizes and choices I made (though you could scale the file).  My nuts are all hex and lack washers (Historically railways didn't seem to use washers much).