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Title: Not actually a Union Gas Engine !!
Post by: Barney on January 25, 2024, 08:47:58 AM
After reading and not "just looking at the pictures"of the Yellow Aster Gold Mine in the Narrow gauge & Industrial Review NO' 132 came across a UNION GAS ENGINE critter an unusual bit of kit with a fly-wheel up front the size of a dust bin lid ( or perhaps a bit bigger ) and with a large water tank at the rear and "the radiator flat on the roof " how on earth it worked I just can not figure it out - but they had a couple of the little beast ! 
My version in 1/16th scale on a 1ft 10in gauge track (32mm gauge ) not looking any thing like the prototype it will have a 3 cylinder diesel engine a copy of a Fairbanks Morse EARLY marine engine -
Wheels are from the Slater's Range or Narrow gauge (16mm scale) - every thing else my usual mix of Evergreen strips and sections - Plastic card skinned LEGO blocks
1st shot the basic frame and the chain covers with a small differential casing
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Post by: Barney on January 25, 2024, 08:55:32 AM
Brake shoes are from Cambrian range of castings
The coupler pocket a bit of a "mistake" a Rough 3D print Took a lot of cleaning up using a Dremel with a ball end and bounced all over to give it a Cast iron look  -  Seemed like a good idea at the time But will not use that company again
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Post by: Barney on January 25, 2024, 08:57:47 AM
Side Detail with pocks front and rear fitted
Started the engine build just a small collection of the parts
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Post by: finescalerr on January 25, 2024, 10:36:50 AM
As you noticed, the printed coupler pockets fail to equal the quality of your own work. You managed to salvage a decent result. -- Russ
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Post by: Bernhard on January 25, 2024, 01:14:46 PM
Looks like a lot of fun again. I can't wait to see the result!

Bernhard
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Post by: Barney on January 25, 2024, 02:32:23 PM
By permission of the KERN COUNTY MUSEUM  a photo of the original UNION GAS ENGINE NO 1 and one of the original motor units
the original name being the"Regan vapour engine co " a 2 cylinder  4 stroke engine
Another Gas engined was from a Cadillac - the two union loco's were abandoned at the mine one buried and the other left underground
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Post by: Barney on January 26, 2024, 01:58:55 PM
Engine bits fitted but all trial fit - Hence wobble flywheel and other fittings
Barney

Engine 3 cylinder Marine  Diesel  - on the pattern of a Fairbanks Morse early type
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Post by: finescalerr on January 27, 2024, 12:06:28 AM
Acceptable so far. -- Russ
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Post by: Hauk on January 27, 2024, 03:13:59 AM
Great craftmanship. Very inspiring!
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Post by: 1-32 on January 29, 2024, 03:52:18 PM
All good Barney it is going to be a stunning model.
cheers Kim
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on February 04, 2024, 02:03:50 PM
Very interesting prototype, and a great build so far!
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on February 04, 2024, 02:12:26 PM
Quote from: Barney on January 25, 2024, 02:32:23 PMBy permission of the KERN COUNTY MUSEUM  a photo of the original UNION GAS ENGINE NO 1...


Hard to tell from such a small photo, especially at that angle, but it looks like the engine in the first image might be similar to this one:

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/imagedetail.aspx?id=6479

Or maybe not...I just found a side view of the Yellow Aster Mine loco #1 on this site:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/pacificng/posts/2242445432554269/

They say it had a 15 hp double cylinder Union Gas engine of the 1905 type.
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Post by: Barney on February 12, 2024, 01:23:13 PM
Thanks Ray That must be one of the original mining critters - and That SVRR ARCIVE has loads of unusual shots
My version is now going through a much needed engine change after finding a few more versions which I think must have been a more reliable version the engine now is a 3 cylinder Petrol - Paraffin ( Gas - Kerosene ) starts on petrol until warm then switched over to Kerosene as used on many tractors of that era - Photos soon of the conversion but continuing with the frame and bodywork
now a fully open version
Barney   
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Post by: Barney on February 16, 2024, 07:52:17 AM
Engine now modified to Petrol  / paraffin (more like tractors of the era)
and body panels now in place
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Post by: Barney on February 16, 2024, 08:02:22 AM
Small Petrol side tank with lube' tank and main paraffin (kerosene ) tank constructed
Components of the radiator ready for assembly flat sheet with 40 thou rods added - Then for front of rad a brass overlay Rear tool box with missing lid ! it fell off at  some point of its life
Barney
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Post by: Barney on February 16, 2024, 08:03:49 AM
Body will be of the open type - just did not look right with roof !!
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Post by: finescalerr on February 16, 2024, 01:32:24 PM
Nice work on the revision. -- Russ
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on February 17, 2024, 08:09:06 PM
Looks great!
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Post by: Barney on February 25, 2024, 01:23:54 PM
A few mods on the oil / fuel tanks Radiator trial fit
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Post by: Barney on February 25, 2024, 01:26:16 PM
Red LEGO blocks on corners  are sand boxes gearshift and brake levers in place Battery to be sorted !
Barney
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Post by: Barney on February 25, 2024, 01:31:05 PM
A few "topsy " bolt heads / rivets to be replaced and a few  rough edges to be sorted before undercoat / primer
and then  the engine to be fully detailed it looks like its going to be a model on its own !!
Barney
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Post by: finescalerr on February 25, 2024, 04:05:26 PM
It is looking quite good at this point, and that includes every detail. -- Russ
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on February 25, 2024, 11:02:00 PM
Looks great so far!
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Post by: Bernhard on February 26, 2024, 12:51:52 AM
Yeah, really great! I like it.

Bernhard
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Post by: 1-32 on February 28, 2024, 09:03:44 PM
Hi Barney your chassis is great.
Love the updates.
cheers
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Post by: Barney on March 09, 2024, 02:12:55 PM
Engine bits nearly ready for paint shop - main block/manifolds /water pump/ starter motor /generator/oil filter /flywheel/magneto /gearshift /brake levers
and loads of Master Club nuts/bolts
Barney
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Post by: Barney on March 09, 2024, 02:15:17 PM
please excuse the stray white bit on Red Lego block centre
Top RED blocks valve covers
Barney
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Post by: finescalerr on March 10, 2024, 12:28:23 AM
I thought everything looked just fine until you admitted your unpardonable sin of placing that white bit on the red valve covers. Unfortunately you'll have to go back and rebuild the whole thing in desert camouflage colo(u)rs. -- ssuR
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Post by: shropshire lad on March 10, 2024, 01:58:24 AM
Quote from: finescalerr on March 10, 2024, 12:28:23 AMI thought everything looked just fine until you admitted your unpardonable sin of placing that white bit on the red valve covers. Unfortunately you'll have to go back and rebuild the whole thing in desert camouflage colo(u)rs. -- ssuR

 Don't encourage him, he already paints all his models in Humbrol Olive Drab , or is it Khaki. We don't want him to introduce another colour as camouflage .
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Post by: Barney on March 10, 2024, 01:53:07 PM
Colour I was thinking on the lines of a GREEN I mean what colours are small petrol / diesel critters
Even with a Zorin motif if is good enough for Mr Bond and his friends that's good enough for Mr Barney
The white bit has now gone and Maxes Hairs that no one noticed  The engine is now a nice shade of undercoat grey HUMBROL OF CORSE
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Post by: finescalerr on March 10, 2024, 02:05:50 PM
In the background of the above photo a tank has taken aim at the critter. Perhaps its new colo(u)r will be "Exploded Green". Uh-oh .... -- Russ
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Post by: Barney on March 10, 2024, 02:32:21 PM
Are you feeling  OK Russ or is it an age thing !!!!!
Barney
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Post by: finescalerr on March 10, 2024, 09:02:16 PM
Ever since I lost my cotton pickin' mind I feel great! -- Russ
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Post by: Barney on April 29, 2024, 01:34:04 PM
Slow going at the moment and still lots to do - due to some 1/35th stuff but all went wrong !!!
yes its GREEN  but if its good enough for Mr Bond it will pass for me
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Post by: Barney on April 29, 2024, 01:36:30 PM
Throttle / speed control still to do  along with choke control and fuel lines
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Post by: Barney on April 29, 2024, 01:42:43 PM
large tank across the bulk head for Paraffin as we call it - Kerosine for people across the puddle
tank on side rear for Petrol ( for starting ) and lube oil
jobs to do more weathering oil leaks and rust but not to much as she is "loved "
Barney
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Post by: Barney on April 29, 2024, 01:47:27 PM
And forgot the tools for he box and some rail and scenery should give it a bit of life 
Barney
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Post by: shropshire lad on April 29, 2024, 03:02:38 PM
Another cracking job done and a fine looking loco . I look forward to seeing it in the flesh in a couple of weeks time .

  Nick
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Post by: finescalerr on April 30, 2024, 12:20:45 AM
That little contraption looks extremely adequate, especially when you click on the photos and see them full size. The model's progress is acceptable. -- Russ
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Post by: Bill Gill on April 30, 2024, 08:01:58 AM
As Kermit the Frog crooned "It's not easy being greeen", but it is definitely a nifty little diesel.
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Post by: Les Tindall on April 30, 2024, 08:34:13 AM
That's rather nice!
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Post by: Bernhard on April 30, 2024, 01:46:58 PM
The difference between the unfinished and painted models is striking. The paintwork brings this little masterpiece to life.

Bernhard
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on April 30, 2024, 10:02:18 PM
Marvelous work as usual!
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Post by: Peter_T1958 on May 01, 2024, 07:06:07 AM
Very clean build! :o
And i especially like the colours - they would also be adequate on my Büssing. What colours did you choose?
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Post by: shropshire lad on May 01, 2024, 09:50:40 AM
Quote from: Peter_T1958 on May 01, 2024, 07:06:07 AMVery clean build! :o
And i especially like the colours - they would also be adequate on my Büssing. What colours did you choose?

  His usual colour !
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Post by: Barney on May 01, 2024, 11:18:30 AM
Peter - Finish coat for main body acrylic Tamiya  NATO GREEN XF67  - Engine Tamiya COCKPIT GREEN XF71
Humbrol enamel  Dark grey for undercoat/base colour 
Barney
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Post by: Stuart on May 01, 2024, 05:31:54 PM
As others have mentioned, a little color makes all the difference.  A very pleasing model, indeed.

Stuart
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Post by: Barney on May 13, 2024, 02:11:56 PM
Just a few more Dabbles "Sea Biscuit" nearly there a few bits of touching up and some oily bits on the engine fuel lines in just waiting on speed control/choke cable /tools and a few wires
The mining loco well on its way and flat car
The AWFUL TRACK is from the PECO SM32 range and is way over scale even for 1/16 scale models
Just using it for Demo purpose
Barney   
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Post by: finescalerr on May 14, 2024, 12:45:57 AM
You certainly seem to have mastered your craft. Sea Biscuit is most satisfactory. Now let's see how the others turn out. -- Russ
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Post by: Bernhard on May 15, 2024, 12:06:50 PM
I agree with Russ. I'm also looking forward to the mining locomotive.

Bernhard
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on May 16, 2024, 09:38:26 PM
Well done!