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Title: The Mill at Jacobs Creek
Post by: Barney on January 10, 2022, 12:59:00 PM
The Mill - a steam powered saw mill project in 1/35th scale
First up some of the machinery - a bit of a mind boggling affair of pulleys most from the scrap box - all parts mainly trial fit "and a bit wobbly"  
1: The drive system for the lower level - it will be powered by a Large steam engine
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Post by: Barney on January 10, 2022, 01:05:47 PM
2: The Frame for supporting the circular saws  - this will be fitted on the upper deck (Im sure there are technical names for all these bits)
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Post by: Barney on January 10, 2022, 01:07:01 PM
 3 : The log carriage
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Post by: Barney on January 10, 2022, 01:07:49 PM
4: other end
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Post by: Barney on January 10, 2022, 01:09:27 PM
5 : the start of the Roller benches 2 of which are powered
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Post by: Barney on January 10, 2022, 01:11:37 PM
6: all the bits ready for cleaning up and a few more nuts and bolts
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Post by: Barney on January 10, 2022, 01:14:36 PM
7: More nuts and bolts to do and tighten up the shafts
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Post by: Barney on January 10, 2022, 01:18:37 PM
8: some of the pulleys require a small flange fitted - and when the belts are fitted the belt tensioners require sorting
Barney
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Post by: finescalerr on January 10, 2022, 08:51:13 PM
That is some of the most beautifully executed machinery I've seen and seems to surpass the quality of commercial castings in even 1;20.3 scale. -- Russ
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Post by: Krusty on January 11, 2022, 12:12:22 AM
QuoteThe Frame for supporting the circular saws  - this will be fitted on the upper deck (Im sure there are technical names for all these bits)

Beautiful modelling as always. As I understand it, the mounting gubbins was known as a saw husk – at least in places influenced by North American practice.
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Post by: Les Tindall on January 11, 2022, 01:52:36 AM
Lovely crisp workmanshio, as always. You've certainly made use of that circular hole cutter to good effect.
Les
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Post by: TRAINS1941 on January 11, 2022, 09:00:31 AM
Beautiful machinery! Wonderful workmanship! Looking forward to this thread.

Jerry
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Post by: WP Rayner on January 11, 2022, 09:39:31 AM
Lovely work Barney... well done.
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Post by: Barney on January 11, 2022, 12:48:35 PM
Thanks to you all for your comments - Its a bit difficult at the moment to give some idea of what the plot is but I will give it a go ! the Mill is situated on the side of an embankment the lower level is where the steam power unit will be driving by belts to the pulley drive unit - the upper level is for the log carriage and the "Husk" edgers and cross cut saw - this seems to be quite a common practice (having two levels ) making maintenance easer for all those belts and pulleys which live under the floor - The Philips Brothers Saw mill has a similar set up with the embankment at the rear clearly shown on the photo below ( photo by permission of the Philips Brothers from the Mill at rest)   
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Post by: 1-32 on January 11, 2022, 12:52:24 PM
Hi Barney .
really very nice , really clean fabrication of difficult machinery.
Cheers Kim
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Post by: Barney on January 11, 2022, 01:17:22 PM
The lower deck has now been installed and the embankment can bee seen at the rear - the upper deck is at the moment a balancing act complete with a "Gremlin" of which there has been many !  its all been a bit of trial and error getting it to look something like the prototype
Photos below show the progress so far
1:  lower deck installed in 3 sections
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Post by: Barney on January 11, 2022, 01:19:19 PM
2 :upper deck un - finished
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Post by: Barney on January 11, 2022, 01:22:14 PM
3: Upper deck with CIRCULAR SAWS trial fit
Gremlin not shot yet
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Post by: Barney on January 11, 2022, 01:28:24 PM
4: Lower deck yet to have ground cover and weeds around the floor to give it that lived in look - The boiler will be located on the right on a concrete base in the open area
please note all wood and parts in an unfinished state -plenty of knot holes - brackets and a forest of uprights
Barney
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Post by: Barney on January 11, 2022, 01:30:26 PM
another one
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Post by: Barney on January 11, 2022, 01:32:12 PM
Boiler to be in open area just beyond the"Gremlin"
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Post by: Gordon Ferguson on January 12, 2022, 04:30:15 AM
Coming along really well , always love your machinery  !

One question though ........ where does the tug I am building fit ?😂
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Post by: shropshire lad on January 12, 2022, 09:21:28 AM
Quote from: Gordon Ferguson on January 12, 2022, 04:30:15 AM
Coming along really well , always love your machinery  !

One question though ........ where does the tug I am building fit ?😂

Next to my crane barge , of course !
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Post by: Barney on January 12, 2022, 10:10:18 AM
 Gordon - I had this dream followed by a vision -  Base board no 2 should take care of the Tug along with the Gold Dredger on the river estuary it will also house the Saw mill log pond and yard .
About December 2023 should do it - so plenty of time for you to perfect your perfection !! and lets have plenty of photos of the tug to give us all inspiration !
Rebuilding the pulley drive system for the mill - now that I have found more info' from a gem of a catalogue "R.R.Howell Saw Mill Machinery & Supplies"
loads of drawings /plans /dimensions all 172 pages - it "just takes your breath away" 
Barney
A non Prototypical Dreamer !
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Post by: Sami on January 12, 2022, 11:32:52 AM
I love this project and the many details of the machine.
Good work Barney !
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Post by: Bill Gill on January 12, 2022, 12:48:01 PM
Barney, This sounds like quite a project. Lots to follow and enjoy & learn.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 12, 2022, 01:00:28 PM
Barney, I'm really impressed. Great project and perfect model making .

Bernhard
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Post by: Rail and Tie on January 13, 2022, 03:03:47 PM
Awesome!
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Post by: Les Tindall on January 14, 2022, 01:41:47 AM
Yes please Gordon, lots of "build" info and photos of Barney's tug please.
Les
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Post by: Hydrostat on January 14, 2022, 03:07:33 AM
Barney,

the machinery looks great - even in that unpainted state. I'm in awe how many items you're cranking out in such a short time. I mean, it isn't 'just' collecting, cutting and making the parts and building something out of it, but a lot of research and technical comprehension, too. I'm looking forward to next posts!

Volker
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on January 17, 2022, 07:26:28 PM
Holy carp, that is a lot of very excellent work!
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Post by: Rail and Tie on January 17, 2022, 07:28:45 PM
Holy crap on a cracker!  I too missed all the work going on in this thread in such a short time. That is impressive scratch building.
Title: Re: The Mill at Jacobs Creek
Post by: Barney on April 10, 2022, 05:21:21 AM
After 5 attempts and a change in scale - I surrender and I need to hang up my tools (not for long I hope) The Mill just did not work out for me even after trying different versions - so its into the reclaiming wood yard and re-think Some rough shots of the last version below
Barney
at rest !!
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Post by: Barney on April 10, 2022, 05:22:26 AM
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Post by: Barney on April 10, 2022, 05:33:20 AM
Back Soon  - revitalised and going for it !!
Barney
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Post by: Bill Gill on April 10, 2022, 06:01:47 AM
Barney, Glad to see your post that you're going for it! Gremlins be gone!

For a number of...years there were various temporary small mockup sawmills on my layout. They were roughly represented by a mix of Legos and Duplos. Somehow none of them were a convincing scene. Reluctantly I quit and turned the area into a pulpwood loading spot.
I'll be watching when you return from your fishing expedition!
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Post by: Lawton Maner on April 10, 2022, 09:57:23 AM
     In my part of Virginia it is the season for Azaleas to bloom and June will be the time to trim them back.  Then it will be pulpwood harvesting time.  In O scale, the bark gives a nice texture to the bolts representing hardwood pulp.  February was the season to harvest Crepe Myrtle for pulp and saw timber.  After cutting and allowing to air dry for a month or more, once my wife is out for a day, I bake the new pieces in the oven to kill off any unwanted critters.
     
     The East Broad Top RR once had a freight shed in Robertsdale, Pa where the foundation was portions of bark on tree trunks.  Probably White Oak or Locust timber.  When building my model of it I reached for Dogwood twigs to represent the footings even though you cannot see them under the finished model.

     Now if someone can suggest a suitable raw material to use for Tanbark so that I can fill a model of an EBT car hauling bark to a tannery.






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Post by: finescalerr on April 10, 2022, 04:04:29 PM
Barney, what don't you like about the previous iterations of the sawmill? The craftsmanship and basic coloring are, as always, first rate. So is it the basically rectangular footprint or something else?" -- Russ
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Post by: Barney on April 11, 2022, 09:53:23 AM
I got a few things wrong - and I could not live with it - also got a bit carried away with the Phillips Brothers Mill which is a sizeable mill - wanted more of the small size with less complications - photo below
Barney
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Post by: Barney on July 14, 2022, 06:00:48 AM
Before I start the Finish I will see if it works !!!!!!!
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Post by: Barney on July 14, 2022, 06:02:39 AM
Well it appeared to work - swift drink now required and continue after dinner feeding time
Barney
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Post by: Barney on July 14, 2022, 07:10:23 AM
After being inspired by photos by Nick of smaller Saw Mills and a quote from Bill" Gremlins Begone"
decided to start another saw mill project
Barney
yes NICK was let out from his corner for the day
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Post by: finescalerr on July 14, 2022, 12:39:40 PM
Please keep an eye on young Nick. He is a mischievous rascal and one never knows what tomfoolery he'll attempt next. -- Russ
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Post by: 1-32 on July 21, 2022, 09:19:50 AM
Hey Barney.
Are you back from your fishing trip, great sawmill set up.
all the best.
Kim
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Post by: TRAINS1941 on July 28, 2022, 08:30:39 AM
Barney the fishing must be great!!  ;)

When do we see the unfolding of the new sawmill?? ???

Jerry
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Post by: Daniel on July 28, 2022, 12:21:15 PM
Hi Barney.

Excellent work.
Despite the fact that it makes me feel a clown i'll follow now on.



Daniel
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Post by: Barney on July 29, 2022, 09:31:20 AM
Hi Jerry and Daniel  The Start of the New Saw mill can been seen under Modellers at Work
"The Scottish inspired Saw Mill "
Barney