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Title: 1:35th Hudson rail tractor
Post by: Bernhard on March 03, 2021, 07:19:14 AM
Hello modeling friends
At the risk of boring you, I would like to present you another Fordson conversion: the Hudson rail tractor.
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Post by: Bernhard on March 03, 2021, 07:22:02 AM
The Prototype











ManufacturerRobert Hudson Ltd. of Leeds, UK
Year of construction1924
Works number39924
DriveFordson N
Drive power20 hp
Number of gears3 forward and 1 reverse
Track gauge2 ft (610 mm)
OperationalYes
Today's locationSatfold Barn Railway, Staffordshire, UK

Robert Hudson Leeds Ltd were established in 1865. The company specialized in providing light railway equipment such as prefabricated narrow gauge track sections and various designs of wagons.
When the Fordson petrol tractor became widely available in the 1920s Hudsons adapted this unit to make a simple locomotive. The locomotive used a four-wheeled cast chassis to which a roller chain drive connected to the tractor axle. The tractor gearbox had three forward speeds but only one reverse gear, which clearly was a limitation for a locomotive that has to operate bi-directionally. Only a few of these machines were constructed.

The following picture shows locomotive No. 36863 of the Leeds Industrial Museum. It was delivered to Stanton Ironworks in June 1929.
(Image: Leeds Industrial Museum)
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Post by: Bernhard on March 03, 2021, 07:22:49 AM
Rail tractor No. 39924, which serves as the prototype for my model, is currently on loan from the Leeds Industrial Museum to the Statfold Barn Railway.
(Image: Statfold Narrow Gauge Museum Trust)
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Post by: Bernhard on March 03, 2021, 07:23:39 AM
Using the dimensional data from the Statfold Narrow Gauge Museum Trust, the first thing I did was create a 3D model of the rail tractor, and then used that to derive all the necessary drawings for making the parts.

Bernhard
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Post by: Chuck Doan on March 03, 2021, 09:16:00 AM
Yay! No arguments from me!
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Post by: finescalerr on March 03, 2021, 11:57:59 AM
I agree with Chuck. In fact I was so bored that I studied each photo and everything you wrote for a long time and compared the black-and-white photo to the color photos to see how Stanton Ironworks modified it. And now I want to see how you build your model. -- Russ
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Post by: Barney on March 03, 2021, 01:25:14 PM
Yes Please - a daily dose of Fordson conversions keeps you going for the day
Barney
More on this little critter can be found on an excellent CD by J Tilstons  Industrial Narrow Gauge illustrated I think its still available  - plans /photos and information lots of it
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Post by: Bernhard on March 03, 2021, 01:43:04 PM
That's right, Barney. And the next conversion is already on the bench.
Thanks for pointing out the CD. I'll try to get it, even though the model is already done. But I'm always happy to get new background information on my projects.

Bernhard
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on March 03, 2021, 08:06:02 PM
Cool project. I love how grimy the loco is in that vintage photo.
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Post by: Bernhard on March 21, 2021, 03:41:59 AM
Today I'll show you how to make the frame.
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Post by: Bernhard on March 21, 2021, 03:42:34 AM
From the first sections ...
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Post by: Bernhard on March 21, 2021, 03:43:17 AM
... the base frame is soldered together.
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Post by: Bernhard on March 21, 2021, 03:43:38 AM
The side plates follow.
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Post by: Bernhard on March 21, 2021, 03:44:38 AM
The side ballast plates are 3D printed from plastic. Note the neat raised lettering on the center plates!
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Post by: Bernhard on March 21, 2021, 03:45:19 AM
The ballast plates and a few other parts are mounted, and thus the frame is more or less finished.
The missing parts can only be attached after painting.

Bernhard
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Post by: Hydrostat on March 21, 2021, 05:00:08 AM
What a great start. Are the cypher parts printed in FUD?

Volker
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Post by: Bernhard on March 21, 2021, 06:51:34 AM
Thanks Volker. All ballast plates are printed from Fine Detail Plastic in high resolution.

Bernhard
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Post by: finescalerr on March 21, 2021, 12:58:52 PM
Thank you for showing us the soldering jig. As important as it is, I have never seen such a tool in any of my catalogs. -- Russ
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Post by: Bernhard on March 21, 2021, 02:45:25 PM
Yes, a really useful tool, Russ. Here you can often get such plates from tool suppliers for jewelry making.

Bernhard
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on March 21, 2021, 10:45:20 PM
Here's one on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Honeycomb-Ceramic-Soldering-Jewelry-Making/dp/B083G1YSLZ/ref=asc_df_B083G1YSLZ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416760125247&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1178606824791391461&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061191&hvtargid=pla-880011040245&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=95471650498&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416760125247&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1178606824791391461&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061191&hvtargid=pla-880011040245 (https://www.amazon.com/Honeycomb-Ceramic-Soldering-Jewelry-Making/dp/B083G1YSLZ/ref=asc_df_B083G1YSLZ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416760125247&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1178606824791391461&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061191&hvtargid=pla-880011040245&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=95471650498&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416760125247&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1178606824791391461&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061191&hvtargid=pla-880011040245)

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Post by: Lawton Maner on March 22, 2021, 06:56:01 AM
Russ:

The fixtures come in different sizes and shapes.  Mine sits on a small turntable with a ceramic tile under it so that I can turn it while working.

Since most of what I am doing at the moment is in 1:1 scale on a 145 year old RR car not much need at the present.
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Post by: finescalerr on March 22, 2021, 12:16:40 PM
Thank you all for the information. I really could have used something like that between 1995-2000 when I was fumbling around with 1:32n3. I have since concluded discretion is the better part of valor .... -- Russ
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Post by: 1-32 on March 25, 2021, 02:17:59 AM
Hi Bernard another gem in 1/35 scale on the bench.
cheers Kim
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:30:58 AM
Unfortunately, nothing has happened here for some time. The reason is that I have dismantled my large H0 layout and then renovated the basement. Thus I have created considerably more space for my workshop.

But now we are moving on.
Drive and brake are two simpler assemblies.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:31:42 AM
Nevertheless, a few parts need to be made for it.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:32:17 AM
As an example, I will only show the production of the two bearings for the actuating shaft of the brake.
First, the foot of the first bearing is milled.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:32:55 AM
Then the outer contour is milled, ...
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:33:34 AM
... and finally the bearing is drilled and then cut from the bar.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:36:27 AM
And this is the result.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:37:21 AM
A little more difficult is manufacturing the parts for the roof.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:37:54 AM
The two roof supports are made of bent angle sections 1.5 x 1.5 x 0.25 mm.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:38:35 AM
First I tried to bend an angle section accordingly. Although I have soft annealed it, unfortunately an impossible undertaking.
I therefore milled out the supports from 1.5 mm thick brass sheet. This is no problem with a CNC machine, but a bit of a challenge with a hand-operated machine.
The raw material is screwed onto an MDF board mounted on the rotary table.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:39:04 AM
The first step is to mill the outer contour with the large radius at the top. The small corner radii cannot be machined. They must be filed at the very end.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:39:32 AM
Then the angle section is milled with a wall thickness of 0.25 mm. I was not sure whether the vertical legs would be deformed during milling. I therefore supported them on all three sides with shaped pieces made of Pertinax.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:40:01 AM
Next, the inner contour of the support is milled. Three thin webs remain to hold the workpiece still in the plate.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:40:29 AM
Then carefully detach the support from the plate, and file the outer radii. And the parts are ready!
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:41:01 AM
The canopy must be bent to fit the supports exactly.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:41:50 AM
This is only possible with a corresponding jig. This is milled from a plastic block.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:42:25 AM
Then the large radius is turned on.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:42:54 AM
The small corner radii can neither be milled nor turned. I therefore milled a shoulder and inserted a suitable round bar into it.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:43:34 AM
Then the sheet is carefully bent over the gauge. This is relative ease if the sheet is annealed several times and reshaped somewhat by hand.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:44:08 AM
The end faces are reworked on the disc sander.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:44:33 AM
The long sides are cut to size with a circular saw blade.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:45:01 AM
And with that, the canopy is ready.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:45:37 AM
The side panels are etched and just need to be bent.
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Post by: Bernhard on October 06, 2021, 02:46:12 AM
First test fit. Looks good to me after all!

Bernhard
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Post by: Barney on October 06, 2021, 03:20:13 AM
Quality and precision you have it all - I admire your metal work its 1st class and the keeping to the prototype in all ways
Barney
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Post by: Bill Gill on October 06, 2021, 04:40:20 AM
It is going together very nicely.
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Post by: finescalerr on October 06, 2021, 01:41:48 PM
Impressive even at this stage. -- Russ
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Post by: Bernd on October 06, 2021, 01:59:29 PM
Very impressive step by step post. Love seeing metal working like this.

Going to be one fine looking rail tractor.

Bernd
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on October 06, 2021, 11:17:48 PM
Amazing work! Very impressive!
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Post by: Design-HSB on October 07, 2021, 03:31:31 AM
Bernhard, you have just been able to take a moment to look at your very good contribution, even if only on your smartphone.  If you use etched folded profiles, you can bend them with a roller bender as this brass is softer.  However, milling out of a plate is the easier, better way, especially if you have a CNC machine like me.  Thank you for showing the creation of the model.
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Post by: Bernhard on November 24, 2021, 08:06:02 AM
Hello model building friends. Finally I can report here about the successful finishing of this project.

As drive for the rail tractor I use again the model from plusmodel.
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Post by: Bernhard on November 24, 2021, 08:06:30 AM
It is equipped with some project-specific, scratch-built additional parts.
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Post by: Bernhard on November 24, 2021, 08:07:03 AM
And with that, all parts are ready for painting.
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Post by: Bernhard on November 24, 2021, 08:07:42 AM
The raised cast (3D printed) lettering on the center side balast plates I can hand paint only under a microscope.
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Post by: Bernhard on November 24, 2021, 08:08:19 AM
The drive can be installed in the frame now.
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Post by: Bernhard on November 24, 2021, 08:09:00 AM
The subtly weathered tractor is put on.
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Post by: Bernhard on November 24, 2021, 08:09:36 AM
The inscriptions on the roof and the decorative stripes on the side panels are decals.
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Post by: Bernhard on November 24, 2021, 08:10:12 AM
Finally, the model is ready to be assembled and weathered a bit.
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Post by: Bernhard on November 24, 2021, 08:10:40 AM
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Post by: Bernhard on November 24, 2021, 08:11:55 AM
And with that, the Hudson rail tractor can go into operation on the layout.

This completes another project. Next I will build a Wilford Powershovel, which, who would be surprised, is also powered by a Fordson tractor.
I will of course report about it.

Bernhard
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Post by: finescalerr on November 24, 2021, 11:19:31 AM
Absolutely superb! -- Russ
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Post by: 1-32 on November 24, 2021, 11:37:31 AM
Hi Bernard.
Yes, a really great job well done.
All the best Kim
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Post by: WP Rayner on November 24, 2021, 11:57:55 AM
That's lovely Bernhard... well done!
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Post by: VilledeGrace on November 24, 2021, 12:57:20 PM
Excellent work.
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Post by: Barney on November 24, 2021, 01:54:30 PM
I agree with all - a fine bit of prototype modelling
Barney
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on November 24, 2021, 11:17:00 PM
Absolutely amazing!

You're using a jeweler's microscope, right? That would be handy for some of my work, especially when sculpting and painting figures.
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Post by: Gordon Ferguson on November 25, 2021, 02:57:18 AM
Lovely work .
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Post by: Bill Gill on November 25, 2021, 04:52:23 AM
Beautiful work, terrific looking model!