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Title: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: LesTindall on February 05, 2016, 12:12:04 PM
Now I've finished the Alco in 16mm scale I was looking for a new project and came across this. The John F. Byers Machine Co of Ravenna, Ohio only built around 5 locos between 1896 and 1906.  This is their "T" boilered vertical cyluinder geared engine available in 3ft gauge and standrad gauge (where the wheels were simply set outside the frames!).  Looks a classic to build so have made a start - the more you look into it the wiereer it becomes! The supports for the vertical cylinders were a "pig2 to make - ended up laminating thick styrene then cutting it out with a fretsaw and finalling sanding to the right profile. I'll post some progress pics soon.
Les
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: darrylhuffman on February 05, 2016, 12:39:02 PM
Wow.  You have to see it to believe it.

Looks like a Tom Yorke special.

Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: NORCALLOGGER on February 05, 2016, 04:58:02 PM
Now that is one of a kind, I love it!
What do you suppose the buckets on the roof are for, coal?
Looking forward to your progress build picts and info.
Rick
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: finescalerr on February 06, 2016, 12:18:45 AM
By all means post photos as you build it! -- Russ
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: LesTindall on February 06, 2016, 12:28:58 AM
The "buckets" on the roof are actually the tops of what look like grain silos in the distance. It must have been a horror to ride, there is no suspension, a very short wheelbase and the brake wheel connects to the rear drive not the wheels! The are some drawings on a web site showing all the gearing otherwise I would just not be able to get my head around it.
Les
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: lab-dad on February 06, 2016, 05:00:21 AM
Love it!
I may have to put one on my to do list 
Marty
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: LesTindall on February 06, 2016, 08:14:27 AM
I've made a start in 16mm scale.  Styrene plus wood for the unusual (as with everything on this engine) front end and "buffers". As you can see the support column for the cylinders were a bit tricky.  The wheels have just been temporarily placed in order to get the base plate for the gears in the corect position.
Les
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: LesTindall on February 06, 2016, 08:16:32 AM
I'll try the model pic again, for some reason iot did not show.
Les
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: NORCALLOGGER on February 06, 2016, 09:01:56 AM
Quote from: LesTindall on February 06, 2016, 12:28:58 AM
The "buckets" on the roof are actually the tops of what look like grain silos in the distance. It must have been a horror to ride, there is no suspension, a very short wheelbase and the brake wheel connects to the rear drive not the wheels! The are some drawings on a web site showing all the gearing otherwise I would just not be able to get my head around it.
Les

Yes, I see that now, duhhhh. 
So is it coal fired?  Looks like a ore car directly behind it,
doesn't look like much room on board the loco for fuel storage.
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: LesTindall on February 06, 2016, 09:27:16 AM
Not sure but assume it's coal fired, as you say not much room on the footplate. The photo of the engine is at the Milwaukee Cement Co.
Les
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: Hydrostat on February 06, 2016, 09:50:09 AM
Come on, guys. Those 'buckets' are some grain silos in the picture's background. So for sure the loco is grain fired.
Great start, Les! And a very interesting prototype. In animal kingdom this would pass as toad. Good at least the driver seems to be proud of it :D.

Cheers,
Volker
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: LesTindall on February 06, 2016, 10:44:49 AM
It's probably a mobile popcorn maker while the tanks contain Shlitz beer (remember that make?)
Les
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: finescalerr on February 06, 2016, 11:17:49 AM
I also remember Blatz, Black Label, Pabst, and several other beers. Too bad you can't drink them as you build the model. -- Russ
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: Chuck Doan on February 06, 2016, 11:24:41 AM
A very unique and interesting project!
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: Ray Dunakin on February 06, 2016, 05:43:38 PM
What a strange and interesting little loco! Very cool project!
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: Carlo on February 07, 2016, 06:11:27 AM
There's a thread over on the Seven Eighth's Forum on building a live steam version.
http://www.7-8ths.info/index.php?topic=16686190.msg92933#msg92933
Carlo
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: Carlo on February 07, 2016, 06:22:57 AM
Also, there's a thread on Facebook about building a similar (non-scale) version, with some prototype pics.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/616952441741646/670576989712524/?notif_t=group_activity
Carlo
Title: Re: Byers Steam Loco
Post by: Allan G on February 07, 2016, 07:01:29 AM
Beautiful work on a great subject...Allan