As one who models in 1/35th scale (chosen due to the detail parts obtainable from the military modelling fraternity) I feel sure more are moving to this scale. However (as shown in some of the posts on this site) many are frustrated by the lack of non-military products, like myself having to trawl the web-sites to find stuff that can be modified. If any of the producers out there are interested there is a LARGE number of us who like the scale but want more NON military stuff. One kit manufacturer over here in the UK has issued narrow gauge "critters" in that scale - can we have more from the others please Comments?
Link/Site/Pics?
narrow gauge critters.
you can always try The Model Works Australia (themodelworks@ozemail.com.au) who specialise in 1:35 industrial diesels. They also have a full range of on-board battery radio control installations.
Currently for sale is the LKM Ns2f industrial diesel to 1:35 scale, ready-to-run either as standard 12v DC or full on-board radio control.
you might also try Hesketh Scale models who have a range of locomotive & rolling stock kits in 1:35 scale
have fun
BernardS
Quote from: narrowgauger on July 30, 2014, 08:48:06 PM
narrow gauge critters.
you can always try The Model Works Australia (themodelworks@ozemail.com.au) who specialise in 1:35 industrial diesels. They also have a full range of on-board battery radio control installations.
Currently for sale is the LKM Ns2f industrial diesel to 1:35 scale, ready-to-run either as standard 12v DC or full on-board radio control.
you might also try Hesketh Scale models who have a range of locomotive & rolling stock kits in 1:35 scale
have fun
BernardS
That is good to know, Bernard . Are there any pictures of all these wonderful products that us newbies can see ? I have been thinking about trying my hand at 1/35th scale modelling but haven't had much success in finding decent locomotives and rolling stock . It sounds like you are selling just the sort of thing I am looking for .
What I would really like to see is a small steam loco , maybe French , possibly a Decauville , definitely radio controlled running around my layout that I haven't built yet . Ahh , one can but dream .
Ns2f ? I'll have mine just in primer . Thanks .
Nick
Quote from: shropshire lad on July 30, 2014, 11:35:03 PM
That is good to know, Bernard . Are there any pictures of all these wonderful products that us newbies can see ? I have been thinking about trying my hand at 1/35th scale modelling but haven't had much success in finding decent locomotives and rolling stock . It sounds like you are selling just the sort of thing I am looking for .
Google is your friend:
http://themodelworksaustralia-com.webs.com/
http://www.heskethscalemodels.com/
I think you are hoping for the impossible, Les. Back in the mid-'90s, Gary Raymond (the metal wheel manufacturer) and I, along with a few others, tried very hard to establish 1:32 as a commercial scale. The idea was to develop exact 1:32 "AAR" standards for track and wheels, encourage the manufacture of some small logging and industrial locos and rolling stock, and direct more attention to such high quality standard gauge models as collectors bought.
Logic and reason failed. First Aristo-Craft and then USA Trains chose 1:29 scale on Gauge 1 track (an idiotic combination) because the size was "closer to LGB". The moronic "garden railroaders" eagerly gobbled up 1:29 because it was relatively cheap. The concept of 1:32 narrow gauge utterly escaped the grasp of their feeble and juvenile minds.
Worse, when the NMRA drafted Gary and me to create large scale standards, they torpedoed all of our meticulous work and began quibbling. To this day there is no real NMRA standard for any large scale. I quit the NMRA in disgust. Gary, after twenty-two years, still struggles to push something through.
I will suggest to you what I have suggested to everybody who ever broached the idea of modeling in 1:32 or 1:35: BUILD IT YOURSELF. That is what the hobby is about -- not buying ready made parts or models. Nobody ever listens to that suggestion because it requires too much effort. And they are still waiting for somebody to produce a 1:32 scale plastic GP9 or two cylinder narrow gauge Shay ....
Russ
The one thing about building it yourself is the satisfaction (which comes after the cursing and swearing and the trying to find that small piece you dropped on the carpet, the part you spent hours making then available on the internet and so on)
...though a 1/35th 1st World War 2ft gauge Baldwin or Also 4-6-0 kit would be nice!!!
Les
Don't forget too narrow gauge 1:32 scale...
http://www.james-art.com/collections.php?id=7
David Provan too produce kit in 1:32 scale, but I don't find his web site address...
Franck
A friend of mine has suggested Shapeways 3D printing. Just taken a look at their web site under 1/35th scale narrow gauge and found some interesting stuff available ready "printed" - both steam and diesel. This maybe is the answer.
Les
Do you think it would be possible for Shapeways to output models in other scales to 1:35 without introducing problems? If so you would have a much wider selection. -- Russ
IMO the problem with the models from Shapeways is that FUD provides fine enough details but is brittle. WSF is strong enough but has a coarse texture. There is FD which I haven't had anything printed in yet but has less detail than FUD.
I had this bridge shoe printed in both FUD and WSF.
Here it is in FUD. Nice .. but like I said brittle. Think of something between clear styrene and week old cake frosting
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WSF is much stronger. You could probably stand on one of these without damaging them. The problem is the texture. That could probably be got around by primer and sanding for something like a locomotive body.
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Russ, I have several bits from Shapeways in different scales from originally advertised.
In all cases you need to go through the owner/designer, who you can contact via Shapeways site . In most cases they have been happy to help, it's not a lot to ask really as the drawings are in CAD or similar so rescaling is not difficult or time consuming. Have had the occasional issue where if their original work is already at say minimal wall thickness and I want to reduce the scale then there is more work involved ....... But all you can do is ask ?
Scaling up is usually no problem. I have made 1/16th parts from 1/48th and 1/2" stuff just by applying a scale to the model. On occasion I will tinker with the bigger part and make something thinner again. But as Gordon said scaling down can be a problem if the already thin edges get thinner.
Thanks, guys. I considered wall thickness and, in some cases, reducing the diameter of an already scale part as being potential problems. The good news is the most popular scales often tend to be smaller than those many of us prefer so scaling up become feasible. -- Russ
Quote from: finescalerr on July 31, 2014, 01:07:40 AM
<snip> I, along with a few others, tried very hard to establish 1:32 as a commercial scale. ........to this day there is no real NMRA standard for any large scale. I quit the NMRA in disgust. Gary, after twenty-two years, still struggles to push something through.
Russ
Anyone could have forseen why this was destined to fail....:D
A.) You were dealing with model railroaders (quibbling and narrow minded, and without fore-sight.
B.) You were doing 1/32 scale. ......So you were sacrificing a market full of comercially viable bits, kits and pieces that could be adapted from an already popular scale,....for the sake of allowing a bunch of lazy railroad guys to use commercially available flex track...not to mention precluding any of the current 1/35 plastic kit and bit mfrs from potentially showing interest in making kits or bits that would cross over to RR use.
Let me get this straight, Dr. Reusser: Are you suggesting the NMRA, and vast majority of model railroad hobbyists along with most of the model railroad industry and probably all of its press, are something less than clear thinking, mature, logical, talented, intelligent gentlemen? Why would you think such a thing?
Hmmm. Maybe that's why I've abandoned the hobby .....
Russ
P.S.: Coincidentally I had a discussion about this subject earlier today with a former advertiser who feels as we do. He was delighted to hear my comments and why I have chosen to divorce myself from that bunch of hopeless nincompoops.
This isn't a protected page. I wonder whether my words will return to haunt me? Oh, what shall I do?
Hi Guys
just to keep you aware that there are those among us who like swimming against the tide and will continue to expand the range of 35th scale loco's and rolling stock with emphasis on 600mm gauge industrial prototypes.
However keeping in tune with whole WWI revival theme we will be producing Baldwin 35hp 600mm gauge (i.e. 16.5mm) gas mechanical trench loco. The model will be 90% brass and powered 12v DC or with 3.7v on-board battery TrainworxOz radio control. Total production will be limited to 20 units.
At the moment we have available 2 uncommitted SKM Ns2f 0-4-0 centre flycrank industrial diesel from a run of eight units. Also ether 12v DC or radio control battery power. colour and weathering to the buyer's choice. By the way the SKM Ns2f is also available in 32nd scale to order.
Stay in tune to the Hesketh Scale Models website for further announcements on the Baldwin Gas Mechanical and some other interesting WWI items in the pipe line
as always any specific info direct email will bring answers
have fun & stay cool
BernardS
Hooray!!!
I love the colors and weathering on that loco in the prototype photo.
Oh, is that a prototype photo? I thought Bernard already had built the model.... -- Russ
I will make a rare foray out from my lurking and suggest scalelink.co.uk in the UK have a 1/32nd scale Hunslet 4-6-0 runs on 16.5 mm guage track and a Pechot-Bourdon 0-4-4-0T plus a Simplex and assorted WWI WDLR wagons. All listed in their online catalogue under WWI Grande Guerre. Resuming normal lurking.
Will
Hi Russ,
yes, I did build one. Here it is before the side panels were attached.
all the gear under the hood is radio control, battery & gearhead motor. Running time on battery exceeded 5 hours at the time the shot was taken.
stay cool
BernardS
Nice!
I forgot to mention Blitz-kit.fr. They have a 1-35 scale Country Jitney 60 Locomotive and will apparently be releasing a 1-35 scale WWI Baldwin set so far for October 2014 release. Plus a variety of 1-35 scale French wagons. Usual disclaimer applies here.
Cheers from the Heart of North America
Will
p.s. Yes I am one of `THOSE model railroad people
Thanks for that Will. Its always difficult to find some of those "obscure" manufacturers who might just offer what is needed. I love those WW1 Baldwins so will keep an eye on this web-site.
Les
Given that this is the start of the centenary of the "Great War" I am not in the least surprised that there are models of the 60cm trench warfare equipment being offered. Over the next few years, I predict, there will be a number of WWI dioramas produced by the military modeling fraternity. Just my $0.02 worth.
Ooops! I meant October 2015 for the Baldwin.
Will
Quote from: finescalerr on July 31, 2014, 01:07:40 AM
I think you are hoping for the impossible, Les. Back in the mid-'90s, Gary Raymond (the metal wheel manufacturer) and I, along with a few others, tried very hard to establish 1:32 as a commercial scale. The idea was to develop exact 1:32 "AAR" standards for track and wheels, encourage the manufacture of some small logging and industrial locos and rolling stock, and direct more attention to such high quality standard gauge models as collectors bought.
Logic and reason failed. First Aristo-Craft and then USA Trains chose 1:29 scale on Gauge 1 track (an idiotic combination) because the size was "closer to LGB". The moronic "garden railroaders" eagerly gobbled up 1:29 because it was relatively cheap. The concept of 1:32 narrow gauge utterly escaped the grasp of their feeble and juvenile minds.
Worse, when the NMRA drafted Gary and me to create large scale standards, they torpedoed all of our meticulous work and began quibbling. To this day there is no real NMRA standard for any large scale. I quit the NMRA in disgust. Gary, after twenty-two years, still struggles to push something through.
I will suggest to you what I have suggested to everybody who ever broached the idea of modeling in 1:32 or 1:35: BUILD IT YOURSELF. That is what the hobby is about -- not buying ready made parts or models. Nobody ever listens to that suggestion because it requires too much effort. And they are still waiting for somebody to produce a 1:32 scale plastic GP9 or two cylinder narrow gauge Shay ....
Russ
Thank you Russ for telling it like it is. You brought a smile to me face, and reminds me why I make all my own stuff...unless of course someone from this forum is kind enough to share their excellent handiwork.
Blitz, as mentioned above, will release a 50HP Baldwin of the first world war, in 1:35 scale, that can be powered, in early 2015, probably in January, photos of prototype :
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Don't forget Mark Hesketh, with its stunning models, in 1:35 scale too :
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http://www.heskethscalemodels.com/
Enjoy!
Franck
Thanks for the inspiration. -- Russ
Then there is the latest masterpiece from The House of Snoodyk which arrived a few days ago. An LKM Ns2f .
Chuck, have you ever tried modeling in 1/35 or 1/32? -- Russ
Hey nice model! ;)
You're a lucky man!
Franck
Sorry to come back to his thread after a long gap but came across this
www.smallbrookstudio.co.uk who have some resin kits in 1/35th including a Plymouth loco, as well as skip and tub wagons, a rail or road wheeled compressor, etc.
Useful stuff
Les Tindall
Hi All
For those who are interested in more modelling in 1/35, I am trying to help promote and get this fairly exciting scale a bit more widely accepted away from just millitary. I think it has huge potential. Usually modelled indoors, I am actually approaching it at the angle as a 'smaller sister' to 16mm in the garden (or in smaller gardens) to be able to take advantage or lovely lighting conditions but whereas a number of 16mm layouts dominate or predominate the landscape, I am looking at promoting 1/35 as a garden-border scale - perhaps on a shelf attached to border fences or right next to the garden wall borders. Of course it's just an idea. I have two groups on FB - one for general 1/35 Railway Modelling and one for South African 1/35 Models:
South African 1/35: https://www.facebook.com/groups/405084406959669/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/405084406959669/)
General 1/35: https://www.facebook.com/groups/304122850264957/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/304122850264957/)
For the sake of modelling railways, I have dubbed the South African Stuff as SA-NG 1/35 and other Railway modelling as NG-1/35.
On the South African 1/35 front, I hope to develop a few South African Railways Models like the NG6, NG15 and NGG16 in SA-NG 1/35. The South African stuff is likely big enough to even do some Live Steam in 1/35! The same chap from Resurgam who has produced amazing kits for 16mm might convert them for 1/35 if there is an interest and there are a few others who are in the process of constructing models that will be available in the general 1/35 Railway group - There is a beautiful solid brass Peckett Kit that is in development for around £230 from Locosnstuff, if it sells well we will also see a 'Wren' kit make an appearance in 1/35. I have also just recently sent some drawings for the 'Brazil' Class Excellsior and 'Trangkil' to a friend of mine who will likely develop a model from that - another favorite of mine with some lovely proportions. He is also developing some cane wagons.
If 1/35 Railway Modelling can continue to grow I will be very interested in having a 1/35 Railway Exhibition but we need more modellers.
Anyway, hope this has been of a little interest to some.
Regards
Bryn
Hi Bryn,
I saw on Facebook the promotion you were doing for this scale, especially on Narrow gauge railway modeling in 1 / 35th scale group, and that's great!
But there are choices that must be made in my humble opinion, concerning the models that should be reproduced in this scale.
In the same way, the South African railways are equally good, but they don't interest me, and here again I think you will reach a minority of modellers for this scale!
If you want to promote and develop this scale and attract new modellers, it's necessary to produce amblematic continental models, such as Ruston-hornsby, Simplex, Gmeinder, Jung, LKM, O&K, Deutz, Devauville, Petolat, Baldwin (WW1), Whitcomb, Plymouth (WW 2), etc... before launching, either in "exotic" or too "typical" models like the Peckett, which will immediately attract other modelers because these brands are "legends" in the narrow gauge world in Europe, and that's what it takes to start developing a market ... We need models that "talk" to the modelers, because they are well known and used by virtually every country in the world. Europe, in order to reach a maximum of modellers ... The South African Garratt was a little rarer in Europe I think ... I'm joking of course!
It's my two cents!
Franck
Hi Franck
You are correct! Hence why I have the General 1/35 Modelling Group that focuses on all different types of locos including Continental!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/304122850264957/
Thanks!
Bryn
For me 1/35th Scale makes most sense when you are modelling railways with a 2' gauge , in particular industrial "Feldbahn" type lines . Whilst live steam may look interesting it is not much use when you are modelling diesels . The use of radio control is a much better option .
Unfortunately I won't be looking at your Facebook pages as I don't subscribe . Incidentally , which country are you broadcasting from ?
Nick
Hi Nick
Thanks for your reply. No problem at all that you choose not to look at my FB Groups, it's not everyone's cup of tea and of course only posted it for those who would look at it.
Yes, radio control is more practical - especially at this smaller scale. I really just posted for those who might have a FB Account and who wanted to see what I'm doing in 1/35 as I know some people are 'thirsty' for new 1/35 stuff. Of course I will post some of my endeavours here for those who are interested but do not subscribe to FB. Posting from London, UK.
Regards
Bryn
Quote from: BMorgan on April 14, 2019, 11:19:40 AM
Hi Nick
Thanks for your reply. No problem at all that you choose not to look at my FB Groups, it's not everyone's cup of tea and of course only posted it for those who would look at it.
Yes, radio control is more practical - especially at this smaller scale. I really just posted for those who might have a FB Account and who wanted to see what I'm doing in 1/35 as I know some people are 'thirsty' for new 1/35 stuff. Of course I will post some of my endeavours here for those who are interested but do not subscribe to FB. Posting from London, UK.
Regards
Bryn
I am presently waiting at Heathrow for a flight to Australia where I am attending their narrow gauge convention next weekend . I am taking a number of 1/35th locos built by Bernard Snoodyk ( the king of 1/35th radio control locos) in Australia . So they are essentially going "home" . He has been pushing 1/35th Scale for a number of years , though not live steam .(He calls himself Narrowgauger here )
It is not a case of not choosing to view your pages , more a case of not choosing to join Faceache , even though the rest of my family is on it .
Nick
Hi Nick,
Have a nice trip! Ask Bernard if he has progressed on his Decauville...
And do not forget to take a maximum of photos!
All the best,
Franck
Hi Nick
Fair enough you not wanting to join Faceache. I'll probably create a blog or website in future. Please do take lots of pictures of locos at the convention! I only came across Bernard Snoodyk recently but do not know of the locos he has built.
Kind Regards
Bryn