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Title: Razor saw rant
Post by: Ray Dunakin on December 05, 2013, 09:55:11 PM
Has anyone here EVER had any success using a razor saw blade in an actual handle? Whenever I've tried it, the handle was freaking useless. Any downward pressure on the blade would pull it out of the handle, or bend the skinny little "shaft" of the blade connecting it to the handle, or both. So I don't even bother with the handles anymore, but trying to keep a good grip on it while vigorously sawing is not easy and I end up with a sore hand and a lot of little cuts.

Also, they really should make the blades longer! When you're using the typical hobby-style aluminum miter box to cut something at a 45 degree angle, you've only got about an inch of movement before it slips out of the groove in the box.



Title: Re: Razor saw rant
Post by: darrylhuffman on December 05, 2013, 11:13:51 PM
I never use the handles.

I use the Atlas Snap saw almost exclusively.

I cut a piece of plywood to fit into the base of my aluminum miter saw box.

I glued it in place so that the depth is just a shade over 1/4 inch.

That works for all of my modeling.

Those boxes are cheap enough you could easily make one for 1/4 inch depth and a second for 3/8 inch depth.
Title: Re: Razor saw rant
Post by: lab-dad on December 06, 2013, 05:14:23 AM
I have the Zona 3-pack with the interchangeable handles.
No problem there.
But I dont use them often.
I do a lot on the band-saw and true up on the sander.
-Marty
Title: Re: Razor saw rant
Post by: Lawton Maner on December 06, 2013, 06:21:38 AM
How about the fact that the slot in the mitre box is so much wider then the saw blade.  Any yime I need accurate, repeatable cuts, I use my Barnes Table saw with either the Mitre accessory or my home made cross cut table.
Title: Re: Razor saw rant
Post by: NORCALLOGGER on December 06, 2013, 07:48:05 AM
Ray,
Are you using this kind, with the handle built in?

http://www.atlantahobby.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=5448&idcategory=101&gclid=CJ_hi9D3m7sCFcxufgodmT0AlA

For heavier work you need something like this.
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2000850/938/Shinwa-202S1101-Crosscut-Razor-Saw-240mm.aspx?keyword=&refcode=10INGOPB&device={device}&network={network}&matchtype={matchtype}&gclid=CIL_sKb4m7sCFQNqfgodDH8AfA

Razor saws aren't really designed for "vigorously sawing" :)

Later
Rick
Title: Re: Razor saw rant
Post by: 5thwheel on December 06, 2013, 08:29:12 AM
If you are talking about X-Acto type saws? I have used mine for many years, carried over from my teen years. I fit a dowel into the inside of the blade tang.  I am still using the same fine blade I have had for many years.  It is almost so dull you can't see the teeth but it works nicely even on brass tubing. Does not leave many burrs. I don't think the newer blades are as hard as the old ones.
Title: Re: Razor saw rant
Post by: Malachi Constant on December 06, 2013, 01:43:52 PM
I got this one years ago and it's surprisingly nice ... long blade, solid handle ... AND the slots in the box are a close fit to the blade.  Of course, it's unmarked and I have no idea where I got it now ... maybe someone will recognize.  The miter box is aluminum, but has a gold/brass coloring to it ...

As for the small crappy ones, I just use those without the handles and yeah the sloppy miter boxes make me rant too!  ;D

Dallas
Title: Re: Razor saw rant
Post by: Bexley on December 06, 2013, 02:37:26 PM
I think that was made by Zona.
Title: Re: Razor saw rant
Post by: Malachi Constant on December 06, 2013, 05:55:04 PM
Yeah, this looks like it:

http://www.zonatool.net/35-231.html

It works as my "good" razor saw and box ... fine teeth, narrow slots in box ...
Title: Re: Razor saw rant
Post by: finescalerr on December 07, 2013, 12:41:05 AM
I had problems with the handle of my Zona saw. So years ago I bought an X-Acto saw and it has worked fine. I waited to respond to see what experience others have had. Seems all your options are above. -- Russ
Title: Re: Razor saw rant
Post by: John Lostcreek on December 07, 2013, 04:24:22 AM
I always use a thin piece of playwood on the bottom. It protects the saw and makes more beautiful cut


john LC