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Title: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: JohnTolcher on December 03, 2013, 04:15:34 PM
Hi everyone

After finishing the Mini, and having AK Interactives Extreme Weathering Vehicles book in hand, I had to take things further with this amazing theme.

This is a kit from revel, and pretty good for the most part. The biggest problem was the grill, which was a solid block of chromed plastic with no openings. I dechromed it with bleach and cut most of it away, replacing the slats with strips of aluminium.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1114.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk536%2Fjtolchet%2FChevy%2FIMG_7319_zpsd5b4c584.jpg&hash=19030fd374689df6e177f91c94c54cacb202797c) (http://s1114.photobucket.com/user/jtolchet/media/Chevy/IMG_7319_zpsd5b4c584.jpg.html)

I won't bore you with the basics, but move onto the paint which is again a test bed for some experimental tomfoolery.

More soon.  ;)
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: JohnTolcher on December 03, 2013, 04:25:41 PM
After washed and dried, everything was primed with Tamiya surface primer from a rattle can. Tamiya acrylics/lacquer paints were used to paint everything dark brown.

Then various rusty shades of Vallejo acrylic paints, were sponged on.
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While the paint was wet, rust coloured pigments were sprinkled on.
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Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: JohnTolcher on December 03, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
When dry the excess pigments were brushed off.
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After curing for a few hours this was given a couple of good coats of Testors Matt Lacquer Spray (Dullcote).
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Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: JohnTolcher on December 03, 2013, 04:40:57 PM
This is the kind of finish I'm after, an interesting mix of colours and effects:
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I hope to continue uploading images in a few hours, see you then.
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Chuck Doan on December 03, 2013, 10:25:09 PM
I'm glad to see more details on this. Superbly done John. I may borrow that rust idea!
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: finescalerr on December 04, 2013, 12:58:54 AM
I am really glad to see you back at the workbench. Satisfactory work at this stage. -- Russ
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: JohnTolcher on December 04, 2013, 04:51:16 AM
Thanks guys, here's some more in progress shots.

For the cab I just sprayed the roof with hairspray. It's taken me a little practice with the can to get a good feel for how much to spray, even now I add too much sometimes.
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All paints were Tamiya acrylics here, thinned with Tamiya Lacquer thinner. Just thin coats, only just opaque, purple brown on the roof, orange yellow on the sides.
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Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: JohnTolcher on December 04, 2013, 04:56:03 AM
Next a shade of blue green was sprayed on the sides, again not too thick.
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Then I carefully added some scuffs and scratches with a fine sanding stick. Fortunately, sponging the Vallejo paint makes it quite thick and less likely to be cut through.
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Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: lab-dad on December 04, 2013, 05:04:45 AM
EXCELLENT!
I have been wanting to do a truck ever since Marc posted his.
Looking forward to your grill efforts, actually the whole project!

-Marty
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: JohnTolcher on December 04, 2013, 05:12:10 AM
Hi Marty, thanks for following.

Now I mixed equal parts of windex and water, and used a paint brush just damp with this liquid and stared to brush down the blue-green to removed some of it. In some areas I worked longer to eat the paint away down to the rust.
Also I used a wet paint brush to chip the roof, just water.
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With the sides of the vehicle and fenders, I tried something a little different again. Firstly the rust using Vallejo paint and pigments like before, and the Testors Spray Lacquer. Then the hairspray, but just a single thin layer. It was important here that it be just a thin layer of HS.

Then the purple brown, oversprayed with the yellow, oversprayed with the blue green. The sanding stick was used again, then the windex/water solution was used on a fine paint brush to carefully add fading and chipping. The windex/water slowly eats away the Tamiya paint, exposing lower layers as you continue to work on them . The effect is a soft one like fading. When it gets down to the hairspray, the solution starts to dissolve it leaving hard edged chips. The windex is more powerful at dissolving the hairspray then just water, that's why you need to keep the HS thin when you apply it.
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Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: JohnTolcher on December 04, 2013, 05:26:32 AM
With the parts of the kit which came already chromed, I sprayed a quick burst of the Testors Matt Lacquer to age the finish. With The grill, I airbrushed a few coats of Mr Color Metallic Silver. Not a mirror finish but good enough I think for something old and rusty, and which will be dirtied up. The wiper was made from two pieces of the finest brass wire I had, soldered together, and a new side mirror was scratch built.
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Next I used oil paints to add streaks, rust stains, and shadows. Then pigments were added to the wheels and various areas, fixed with Mig Productions pigment fixer. A tarp was made from teabag paper painted with a heavy coat of Vallejo paint, which went kind of rubbery when just dry. It was then positioned until it cured in a few hours, and had highlights and shadows painted.

The hungry boards were made of extra large match sticks, cut down and distressed with a scalpel and wire brush, then sanded. They were paint light grey using acrylics, then had several washes with black and grey/green oil paints thinned with white spirit.
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Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: JohnTolcher on December 04, 2013, 05:38:57 AM
So this is the result! Thanks Marc and Chuck, and others for the inspiration and instruction.
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Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: JohnTolcher on December 04, 2013, 05:40:29 AM
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Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Design-HSB on December 04, 2013, 05:51:57 AM
Hello John, simply terrific car have come to life so right.
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: eTraxx on December 04, 2013, 06:01:15 AM
Great work. I have a 1949 Ford car that I'm going to start working on and this pickup gives me 'path' to follow. Excellent and thanks.
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Frederic Testard on December 04, 2013, 06:05:31 AM
I love it. Great to see the building of the colour.
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Mr Potato Head on December 04, 2013, 08:29:49 AM
great job, it looks like very much like your inspirational muse, I would have liked to see a little more dings and dents to the fenders and the grill but you killed it with the weathering. Thanks for the SBS, always helpful
MPH
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Ray Dunakin on December 04, 2013, 10:31:12 AM
Awesome!! Really looks great. I like how the color changes slightly from top to bottom.

Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Hydrostat on December 04, 2013, 11:25:07 AM
Fantastic paint job. For me especially the bumper and the load bed look very good. The fading shade of the color is spot on. But I feel there are two points for improvement: The tires seem way to close to the fenders. Compared to the prototype (and to be "functional") they would have to be more inside. The other point is the flattened rear tire, which looks somewhat chopped. I've never done this by myself, but maybe you could heat the tire a bit to deform it to get that compressed look?

Cheers
Volker
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Arno Boudoiron on December 04, 2013, 11:48:01 AM
Very nice job!  8)
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: finescalerr on December 04, 2013, 12:33:30 PM
John, that's just depressing. It's enough to make me consider publishing another article, something I really don't want to do again for a while. Why must you do such inspirational work? -- Russ
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Lawton Maner on December 04, 2013, 03:37:12 PM
Looks a lot like the 1976 Ford F-100 in my backyard awaiting restoration.

Russ:

Get more information about the step by step how to and post it as the first of what I hope will become a torrent of pay to view replacements for the mags. Making them affordable will allow viewers to build a library of articles specific to their needs.
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: finescalerr on December 05, 2013, 12:33:22 AM
I can crank them out, Lawton, but the market for them isn't there. My main concern is earning enough to give the authors a decent check (even if I get nothing) and, so far, the stats suggest that my be very difficult. -- Russ
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Wesleybeks on December 05, 2013, 02:28:47 AM
Flippen hell.

That is beautiful.
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: JohnTolcher on December 05, 2013, 12:27:54 PM
Many thanks guys, I'm glad you like it.

Thanks Gil, I agree, some more dings would have been good. In fact I tried on the front right fender and ended up cracking the plastic. Something I need to work on.

And Volker, I agree with your comments also. I tried to soften the spare tyre and flatten it as a test but ended up just making it look melted, so I cut that part off and covered it with the tarp. So the other tyres were cut off at the bottom. But yes the wheels do not look to be in the right position, I think I can do something about that thanks.

Russ - sorry.

I've been asked elsewhere if I was planning a base, the answer is no, not at this stage. Cheers guys!

JT
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Chuck Doan on December 05, 2013, 12:40:11 PM
I do know of a 1/25 th scale garage this would look nice sitting in front of. ::)
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: chester on December 05, 2013, 07:00:17 PM
Very nice! Thanks for the walk through.
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: kathymillatt on December 06, 2013, 12:28:36 AM
Wow, that looks amazing John.

I love how subtle many of the effects are.

Thanks for the SBS.

I wonder if the windex would work as well on Tamiya thinned with acrylic thinners. Lacquer thinner is impossible to post in the UK.

Experimenting needed!

Kathy
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: voyager on December 06, 2013, 12:31:27 AM
That is beautiful and a very informative SBS too, thanks! The underlying pigments literally give the paint an extra dimension - must try that!
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Gordon Ferguson on December 06, 2013, 01:26:05 AM
Kathy, you can get the Tamyia Lacquer thinners via Hong Kong/eBay & the postman delivers it ?

In the meantime you might like to experiment with Acrylic Nail Varnish remover, a really basic version with no additives as long as it smell of "pear drops" should be OK.
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Alexandre on December 06, 2013, 03:48:43 AM
Saw this evolve past weeks.
Really glad to see and read more details here.
The finish is truly superb. Really inspirational.
That may be my favorite work of you.
Bravo John.

Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Franck Tavernier on December 06, 2013, 04:50:04 AM
Amazing job John!

Pigments provide a definite plus, to rust texture effect, here's the proof!

Thank you for sharing!

Franck
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: kathymillatt on December 08, 2013, 12:56:07 AM
Gordon

The Royal Mail will not deliver solvents. You have to use a courier.

I've bought some cellulose thinners from Halfords a while ago and will try those to see if they work.

Kathy
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Gordon Ferguson on December 08, 2013, 03:17:52 AM
Kathy, you are correct re Royal Mail, but !

Sent you a message , hopefully providing a better explanation .

Really not sure about the cellulose thinners , suggest you don't try it thro' your airbrush think you may end with a major strip down and clean up operation :-\
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: JohnTolcher on December 08, 2013, 06:28:57 AM
Thanks again for the great feedback everyone.

Chuck, I would be honoured!

Hi Kathy, I hope you can source a good thinner, I find nothing works better with Tamiya paints than their Lacquer Thinner for achieving a really smooth finish when airbrushing. They have another thinner that comes in the ordinary paint bottles, X-20A. Or some modelers just use water, I have trouble with it myself. But I'm guessing Tamiya paints thinned with other compatible thinners would behave in a similar way with the windex. Best to do a test to be sure, as always.

Cheers
JT
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: Barney on December 08, 2013, 12:27:35 PM
John -What a lovely paint job - nice and not over done just like the old car that used to live at the bottom of my garden
Kathy looked at the contents of Mr muscle glass cleaner looks the same and at £1.99  its worth a try !

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Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: narrowgauger on December 09, 2013, 04:20:49 PM
Exceptional John, no other words for it.

BernardS
Title: Re: '41 Chevy Pickup, scale 1:25
Post by: JohnTolcher on December 11, 2013, 02:59:31 PM
Barny, Bernard, many thanks for your feedback.

Regarding the difficulties getting hold of Tamiya Lacquer Thinner in the UK, I happened to have a bottle of Gunze Mr Color Thinner. To me it smells very similar so I gave it a trial, mixing with Tamiya paint in the same way as I used Tamiya Lacquer Thinner, and doing a little bit of windex wear on the finished paint. It appeared to behave in exactly the same way, and is apparently available in the UK:
http://www.scalemodelshop.co.uk/mr-hobby-110ml-mr-color-thinner-110-t102.html

Cheers
JT