Hi guys,
It´s been awhile and I´m sorry for not being more active in posting comments but I have for sure been following along all the great stuff that has been presented here.
Since September 2012 I have been working on this new diorama depicting a Swedish city block (backyard) set in 1935. There are two residential buildings, a 17th century building in the back used for storage and a furniture repair shop. I call it "Moving Day" because it will feature a family that is about to move. The cart shown will be surrounded with furniture, boxes etc. when in it´s final position. Included will also be a couple of figures.
These are my first pics. and it´s always a shock to see details three times actual size but luckily enough it will only be viewed under normal circumstances. One could of course avoid these shots like many modelers do but I beleive they are a great aid in improving things. However nothing is final in these pictures and there will be a lot to be added, corrected and maybe removed.
There are also three working lights so when finished I will take some night pics. as well. I have also mixed in some prototype pics. in this post that inspired the build.
Thanks to Christian (BLKN) who helped out with the signs and to Dave Krakow who custom made some parts. All of this will be shown later in detailed pic.
As usual all sorts of comments are welcome.
Anders
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Hi Anders,
very glad you're back !!
Love the project and the pictures !!
Guy
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Satisfactory. -- Russ
SPECTACULAR! ;D
-Marty
Hi Anders,
you've been busy........
Fantastic work. I have one remark, isn't the white lamp over the passage not too large ?
It could be the brightness of the white colour........
Hope to see you soon.
Jacq
Looking great! Another visual feast. Love the windows and interior details.
Very nice, Anders!
Thanks for sharing!
Holy moly! You really have been busy! Great dio with lots of eye candy. My favorite shot is the one looking through the arch, with the bicycle leaning against the wall. The old, dirty, crumbling stucco in that scene is terrific.
Also love the stuff piled on the cart, especially the way each item is painted. You really got the colors and weathering right.
........... :o
Again very nice work. Looking forward to the next progress pictures !
What I was wondering, where do you find the inspiring original pictures ?
Regards,
Marc
Sure glad to see more stuff from you Anders. Wonderful work as usual. Terrific rendition of the black and white photos.
Really lovely work. I really like the cart loaded with possessions and the details in the window remind me of Vermeer's paintings.
James
Wow! The expression "still waters run deep" comes to mind ... (you haven't been saying much, but clearly there's a lot going on in there!) :o :)
-- Did you do the cobblestones from Das clay or similar?
-- Looks like maybe some curb stones and paving stones (in alley) from Diorama Debris molds ... ??
-- Can't believe you used one of those big, clunky Mini-Art doors and made it look good! ;D Dig the hardware and hinges on the windows ... are those Plus Model or scratchbuilt?
-- And what about all those building halves lining the edges of the diorama ... are there open interiors visible from the outside?
Already so much going on ... GREAT looking scene / theme!
Cheers,
Dallas
Thanks very much guys! It´s really fun to be back ;D!
Marc.
Pictures are from either Swedish newspaper or museum archives found on the Internet.
Dallas.
Cobblestones and curbstones are from Diorama Debris, Plus Models, Royal Models and Add on Parts. Paving stones in alley are from Royal Model.
The door is scratchbuilt out of wood but I copied the Mini Art design and used their handle which I might replace. I also downsized the door quite a bit (it was way too big) so maybe that´s why it doesn´t look so clunky at least not to me.
All the hardware and hinges are scratch and some of the windows are from Plus Models and Mini Art totally rebuilt, less panes etc. etc.
The back of the building halves will be covered up except for the alley itself which also have a functional ceiling light. The room at the end wall of the yellow building has a full interior also with a functional light so in the upcoming night pictures you will be able to see all of that.
Anders
Wow! Spectacular diorama. It deserves to be on permanent display in a suitable museum.
Regards, Hauk
Lovely stuff -superb detail so many places to look at - the bike shot makes it
Barney
Uh....wow, holy-moly...what a great piece. love all the textures and details. You really have captured the look and feel. So glad to see you posting again...and what an entre. ;D
Beautiful. So much details to spot in every pictures.
I love the bicycle picture taken from under the arch!
:)Bravo.
Wow! Anders that is some awesome modeling. I'll be watching to see how the diorama unfolds.
Michael
Anders ,
You have produced another superb diorama and I love the scene that you are portraying . Definitely inspiration to do something similar for myself , along with Per Olaf's recent creation . However , I have a bit of a problem with it . Nothing to do with your modelling but how you are presenting the diorama . If it were mine I would consider enclosing the whole diorama in a box and restrict what the viewer can see . If you had the main view looking through the double gates with a secondary opening through the arch I think that you would take the quality of the diorama to a higher level . I would have an opaque Perspex top so that light will shine onto the scene and if you wanted to highlight different areas you could control how much light comes through using some sort of shutter system . Nothing to complicated just bits of cardboard , or similar . You could then create shadowed areas like in the photos .
The main point to doing this , for me , would be to remove the ability of the viewer to see the back and sides of the diorama , which at the moment detracts from the overall effect . So it is for that reason I can only give it a 9 out of 10 at the moment ! You will get another half a point if you think my suggestion is worthy of consideration . Unfortunately 10 out of 10 is not achievable as it implies perfection and that would leave you with nothing left to strive for !
I am greatly looking forward to seeing what you come up with if and when you construct your module ,
Nick
Even though Nick seems to have escaped momentarily from the corner I think he's actually onto something. A diorama is really three-dimensional art. But, as with many works of art, especially paintings, the viewer should see what the artist wants him to see.
Now, in the case of a sculpture, I suppose the artist wants you to see everything. But sometimes "everything" is too much. Your eyes may need a focal point. Well, at least my eyes prefer one.
About ten years ago we were at George Sellios' layout in Massachusetts. Scarlett and I (and I think Jerry Kitts, too) walked away with kind of a headache. The reason, as I realized when I whipped out the camera, was that there were no focal points. The eye didn't know where to stop and was "overloaded". George may have changed things since then but it reaffirmed a lesson I learned from Rick Runyon (a world class designer) and my father (a terrific photographer): Every picture should be a "target". The eye easily should find the center.
I admit that rule may not apply to every diorama (and most model railroad contests seem to require 360-degree viewing) but it certainly applies to the dioramas Chuck Doan has done over the past ten years and those Marc has done recently. Alex's Mogadishu diorama is a perfect example. So is Jacq's logging layout and the new display he is designing.
Even though Nick's idea might not apply everywhere, and as much as I hate to encourage him, it's a pretty good one. I'm certainly going to try to think in those terms when I eventually start modeling again. Yeah, "when" ... not "if".
Russ
Hauk, Barney, Marc R, Alexandre, Michael & Nick......thanks very much for your kind comments, much appreciated ;D!
Nick, I hadn´t thought of your idea and will try it out with cardboard and if it works for me I will hopefully gain another half point ;D!
However I´m aware of that this diorama is designed against all so called "rules" that should lead the viewer to the center BECAUSE it´s a square city block and you can´t angle the buildings. I was very close to build the two front buildings with full end walls and angle the outer "fake" walls towards the back like a wedge but decided it was a lot of extra work, especially with the roof, chimneys etc. and I´m not sure it would have helped very much. I did that with the residential building on the Bike Shop so I know what it takes but that dio has a totally different design.
I did just a little twist and placed it in a box that is not square, the street is wider to the left and that makes you at least look from left to right if you place it with the end wall straight. The dio is 51 cm wide and viewed from the center from a normal table you can back away as much as 2 meters without seeing the "fake" side walls. I´ll be most interested in hearing your input.....should I had designed it differently etc. ?
Anders
This discussion is turning into a very interesting direction, since there is nothing to complain about, when it comes to Anders excellent model building.
The composition is indeed a key element in diorama building. It's a lesson I learned the hard way. When I built my Krakow's Garage diorama I was very inspired by Anders Krakow's garage and his train shed. The endless amount of clutter made perfect sense and was crucial for the overall feel. But on my version, the focal point was really the building itself, in particular the front wall. So technically, I could have (should have) only built that wall. It would have been a lot easier to handle and present as well.
Now for your "Moving Day" diorama, Anders - I could see this being broken up into 3 separate dioramas. Each of the building has so much detail to look at that they can easily stand on their own.
Hi Guys, time for an update.
Actually this project is FINISHED by now but I haven´t had a chance to shoot the final pictures yet. Anyway here are some progress pics. with quite a bit of work remaining.
All sorts of comments are welcome as I can still go back and improve.
Anders
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" I can still go back and improve"
You have to be kidding Anders, it's all just fabulous !
I do like that sawhorse, but then if I saw each bit in as much detail I would love them too ;D ;D ;D
I'm sure it must need a lot of improvement but your photos are so terrible I can't see where it would need any. -- Russ
Very well done, Anders. I especially like the saw horse picture, too. The plaster at the yellow building looks very real and so the cobblestones in that area do. How did you make them? Very nice texture!
Volker
Sweet! Really nice work, looks very authentic.
Oh,...did you forget to mention that you won a Gold Medal at the Denmark IPMS Nationals with this...and your workshop dio won a Silver!?
Big congratulations. Well deserved.
The workshop diorama only earned silver? That's a little hard to believe. -- Russ
Thanks very much guys! ;D
Volker, I´ll be back with more pictures and an SBS regarding your questions.
Ha, ha, news travels fast these days! The show was actually the Scandinavian Challenge C4 Open in Malmö, Sweden on Saturday and Sunday. There were close to 450 models and many of very high standards.
Russ, The Bike Shop got a silver because it´s lacking a story I was told. However the Danish IPMS Group had a special price and awarded it Best In Show. Different guys different opinions but what the heck this was the first time I participated in a show and it was great fun. It´s a hobby and not a 100 m race.
Anders
Russ, It's his own fault...the other one beat it out for the gold. :)
Congratulation, Anders!
Wow, congrats on the well-deserved wins!
Lots to look at. Beautiful work, and congrats on the well deserved wins! Those must be a challenge to transport together.
Congratulation's :)
Thanks very much guys! Much appreciated.... ;D!
"A challenge to transport".......yes, indeed but they do both fit into my car but no passengers please!
Will be back soon with various pictures of the finished build.
Anders
Anders, everything you do is award winning.
Anders, Congrats on the well deserved prizes, but best of all on having a good time and not taking any of it too seriously.
Thanks very much!
Chester, I can send you pictures of some work that is not so award winning...... ::) ::) ::)! Interesting, our posts almost equals....your´e in the lead 698-695.
Anders
I've been at a loss for words the whole way here ... think I'll go with: Your work is absolutely sickening! ;D -- Dallas
Thanks for helping to clarify my own thoughts, Dallas. I couldn't have said it better myself! -- Russ
Thanks very much Dallas & Russ :)!
Just two evening pictures today or whatever you want to call them.... ;D! I´ll be back with the final detail pictures and an SBS as soon as the weather permits an outdoor session, it´s been raining for a week or so.
Anders
P.S. Pictures way over sized as usual....it´s still 1/35 scale.
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Quote from: Junior on November 07, 2013, 02:44:01 AM
Just two evening pictures today or whatever you want to call them.... ;D!
Wonderful pictures, especially the last one.
Cant wait to see more!
Wonderful! What a great mood!
Wow, really great shots!
I'm curious about the wall lamp in the first photo. Where did you get it? Or is it scratch? I haven't seen anything that good even in 1/24th scale.
Beautiful mood shots.
There you go with that ambiance stuff again. This is now one of my all-time favorite dioramas, and has lots of it. You are right about Shep Paine, his diorama with the sailor and cat (and beautiful Navy Parrot pivot gun) is another favorite with ambiance, as are his aircraft and box dioramas.
Thanks again guys :)!
Ray, here is the lamp:
http://www.brawa.de/en/products/h0/lamps/wall-lights/5357-wall-light-nuremberg.html. It´s sold as HO scale..... ??? An HO figure would fit inside..... ;D! There´s a 12 volt bulb included that is far too bright but a dimmer or resistant takes care of that.
It would look great as a somewhat smaller lamp in 1/24 scale. Other German manufacturers you might want to check out are: Viessmann, Kibri & Noch.
Anders
You seem to have mastered the art of using contrasting light sources to advantage. Most guys do it by accident to their DISadvantage. -- Russ
Hi Anders,
I hope not to be offending: I feel the same about the mood in both pictures. The first one looks even better to me for there is this blur at the womens' face and the bike in the second one, which makes it look a bit strange. But in both pictures the cables for the lamp give it away. I had the same problem and maybe found a solution here: http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=1983.msg44257#msg44257 (http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=1983.msg44257#msg44257); please scroll down to the last two pictures; I don't want to hijack your thread with my pics. I removed the insulation from one wire so this one seems to be a steel rope to hold the lamp and the other one the cable for power. You even may remove both insulations, if it's still too thick and then color this with non-conducting color. In your second picture the crooked cable is another problem.
Cheers,
Volker
Volker, no offense at all. This is what this forum is all about, to get input bad or good and it´s very helpful.
The second picture with the "lady" was shot in this manner. Seven exposures at various focusing points and then stacked in Helicon Focus. I did make an error and missed one exposure right where the "lady" and the bike are located, that´s why this picture is crap. I´ll shoot a better one and include that when I have the final pictures ready to post.
Hope I got you right Volker because I was a bit confused about the blur......positive or negative? I´ll guess negative.
The crooked wire from the lamp is also crap and could of course have been replaced (maybe one day) but to my own defense I have to say that it´s almost not visible under the naked eye. Remember these pictures shows something that is only about a third in size in reality. Many skilled modelers do avoid these shots but I kind of like them even though they do show your mistakes immediately.
Looking forward to more input.
Anders
Had another one......a little bit closer, different lightning but more in focus, cropped out the bloody wire ;)! Will re-shoot in any case.
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Well the ambiance is a bonus, the modeling is top notch. Lovely stuff. Wish I could figure out he Helicon software.
Anders,
I thought about stacking when I saw your second picture. I'm using Photoshop for that and do know that there often is a problem with the blur, especially if you have very thin objects in the foreground. Your new picture works much better for me concerning the sharpness - although the mood in the other one is great. And to make it even more complicated concerning positive and negative: The blur at the head is an advantage as it looks like a movement of the person. Try to mount sharpened hanlebars into that picture; could be a nice effect.
By the way and once again: That's a great piece of modeling. :o The carpet and the hand wash look very good to me - and so do all the textures on the walls and the floors.
Cheers,
Volker
I have to say, I really love this model. The more I look at it, the more interesting details and textures I see.
Chester, if you have Photoshop you might not need Helicon Focus. Try taking a series of shots, like Anders did, and focus at different points. Basically set the tripod so it won't move and just adjust the lens.
Stack the shots in layers in Photoshop and use the feathered eraser tool at an appropriate diameter, or the select tool with feathered edges, to remove the part of each layer that is out of focus. Beneath it should be the next shot where that part is IN focus.
Russ
Stunning work it's beautiful ! Great pictures 8)
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Anders great scenes!! wow
being very picky now
VERY picky
but
the clothes line,
did you do the clothes on the line with the line stretched out in a STRAIGHT line & then postion it in place in a curve?
only that purple? garment on left is not hanging vertically,
left edge is sticking out sideways,
I also have to say
I could not achieve what you have accomplished
My word, that is a good eye Don.
Anders I'm really amazed by your model. I understand what you told me about the scale you can't leave once you've discovered it. It's the main reason why I try to stay carefully away from it... :)
hi andres.
great subject a european court yard in about the 1920 perhaps.there are so many good aspects, but lookng at the first series i feel that the concrete covering the cobble stones need a bit of work.maybe it is the photo but the plaster is too blue and where it is just covering the paving it is too thick maybe it needs a bit of sanding it make it blend properly.
lovely piece kind regards kim
Hi guys and thanks for all the input again ??? :)!
If I got it right I´ll guess the following will take care of your thoughts.
The clothes line.
The garments are of course castings and would only hang perfectly natural on a horizontal line (normally they do sag a bit) unless you want to re-sculpt them. No one has yet pointed out that the line itself is a bit thick ;D but that´s only temporary and here´s why. First I used a super thin fly-fishing nylon line. If you want everything to be in focus and stack your pictures in for instance Helicon Focus nothing can move between exposures, (outdoors it was constantly moving) therefore I used a thin brass wire. When I´m done with the final pictures it will be back to the fishing line.
Colors.
This is the first model I have photographed that creates real problems. My knowledge about camera settings for adjusting color balance is limited. Either the yellow/brownish building looks lemon yellow and the concrete looks fine or the building looks fine and the concrete looks blue.
Maybe for instance Marty J. or Russ could help out on how to get rid of this problem? Is there a possibility that the blue building creates a problem with the color of the concrete? It mostly occurs outdors.
Anders
Odd you should have a problem outdoors. My guess is the paint colors you chose simply fool the sensor. If you shot the images in RAW mode (the mode for ALL photos except throw-away snapshots) you have some control in Photoshop's conversion software and you may need to desaturate everything a little. If that doesn't solve the problem, you may have to select the offending color and either adjust it or desaturate even more.
I frequently receive images where one or more colors are too saturated or just wrong. I've found no shortcut; I have to use the magic wand or the select tool with some feathering and fix the colors manually.
In the case of your shots, the easiest fix is to color balance the image for the wall and manually tone down the blues where necessary. Easy because you only need to desaturate the blues; you don't have to do any color adjustment for the blues and you may be able change things easily with the desaturate tool.
Russ
Thanks for the color tips, Russ. I tried to do as you said on Anders' pic. It gives a pleasant result (on my old Paint Shop Pro, I desaturated somewhat blues and cyans, enhanced a little yellows and reds and got the pic below).
Thanks Russ, some great advice! Will for sure follow your instructions for the next and final session.
Fredéric.......Wow I like that! From now on I´ll send you all of my problematic pictures ;). I´m no good with photoshop.
Anders
You're welcome, Anders. Along the years, I've become quite used to PaintShopPro-ing pics to hide all my modelling flaws (and vocabularying to hide the lack thereof) ... In your case, nothing to hide, just trying to avoid the blues... A pity a musician had to tell us how to do that...
Digitally editing out flaws is horribly horribly wrong. Corner. Now.
It's already full...
Stand in the empty corner then! ::)
I didn't have a problem with the blues - I just thought it was moonlight. A bit cinematic I suppose? - But it worked happily in my head.
Editing out flaws is no big deal. But I should confess. The penny in the photos of my models is actually a giant penny and the models are not models, they are of real things. *goes sits in corner with the crowd* "Oh good, there is a table slot open for me to build this Snap-Tite kit"
Quote from: Andi Little on November 12, 2013, 11:36:56 PM
I didn't have a problem with the blues - I just thought it was moonlight. A bit cinematic I suppose? - But it worked happily in my head.
Yeah, I liked the blue too, gave it a kind of moon-lit quality.