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Title: Autocar Blue Streak 6 cylinder engine
Post by: Gordon Ferguson on July 28, 2013, 05:03:33 AM
Help!

Trying to track any pics of this engine , introduced by Autocar in about 1932.

Normally reasonably competent at finding stuff via the web but no luck with this. Also looked under Zis 5 which was basically a copy of Autocars Despatch truck with the same engine ...... Again zilch

So anybody got any bright ideas?

Thanks
Title: Re: Autocar Blue Streak 6 cylinder engine
Post by: mabloodhound on July 28, 2013, 07:29:41 AM
Gordon,
No doubt you must have found this book on Google http://books.google.com/books?id=lQg9AAAAIAAJ&pg=PT150&lpg=PT150&dq=autocar+blue+streak+engine&source=bl&ots=M_9i4WENXY&sig=MZ23BDnrcze4NkhacwU0k8TKAYU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LCn1Ue64FNal4AP9kYGYCA&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=autocar%20blue%20streak%20engine&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=lQg9AAAAIAAJ&pg=PT150&lpg=PT150&dq=autocar+blue+streak+engine&source=bl&ots=M_9i4WENXY&sig=MZ23BDnrcze4NkhacwU0k8TKAYU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LCn1Ue64FNal4AP9kYGYCA&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=autocar%20blue%20streak%20engine&f=false)

and this photo http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://archives.aths.org/archives/gs/handler/getmedia.ashx%3Fmoid%3D4710%26dt%3D2%26g%3D2&imgrefurl=http://archives.aths.org/archives/default.aspx?moid%3D4710&h=512&w=640&sz=66&tbnid=kt8t70NLJ2_aFM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=122&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dautocar%2Bblue%2Bstreak%2Bengine%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=autocar+blue+streak+engine&usg=__xxkSDEBM7UPnTu3m_6xLScU-iB4=&docid=PcHtLDlmhz9vtM&sa=X&ei=_in1UZTPK5ei4AO0nYFI&ved=0CEAQ9QEwAzgK&dur=1200 (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://archives.aths.org/archives/gs/handler/getmedia.ashx%3Fmoid%3D4710%26dt%3D2%26g%3D2&imgrefurl=http://archives.aths.org/archives/default.aspx?moid%3D4710&h=512&w=640&sz=66&tbnid=kt8t70NLJ2_aFM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=122&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dautocar%2Bblue%2Bstreak%2Bengine%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=autocar+blue+streak+engine&usg=__xxkSDEBM7UPnTu3m_6xLScU-iB4=&docid=PcHtLDlmhz9vtM&sa=X&ei=_in1UZTPK5ei4AO0nYFI&ved=0CEAQ9QEwAzgK&dur=1200)


(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.aths.org%2Farchives%2Fgs%2Fhandler%2Fgetmedia.ashx%3Fmoid%3D4710%26amp%3Bdt%3D2%26amp%3Bg%3D2&hash=559993f05d3606908b1d5c35ca0d927fac83bf05)
Title: Re: Autocar Blue Streak 6 cylinder engine
Post by: Les on July 28, 2013, 02:00:13 PM
Gordon
Refer to American Truck and Historical Society Archives whole site for the full selection of archive photos for Autocar (3575 photos) Stirling (449 photos) and Indiana (581 photos) These photos show an large number of body styles over many years as well as a variety of engines not necessarily Autocar, Stirling of Indiana.
A very large selection.
http://archives.aths.org/archives/
Les
Title: Re: Autocar Blue Streak 6 cylinder engine
Post by: marc_reusser on July 28, 2013, 02:20:57 PM
What arey you up to?
Title: Re: Autocar Blue Streak 6 cylinder engine
Post by: Gordon Ferguson on July 28, 2013, 02:22:58 PM
Thanks

Dave, yes found that one .... The only one I could find ....... Believe that engine was on afire engine hence the additional header tank, presumably to help cooling when vehicle was stationary but using the engine to power water pump?.

Les, no did not know about the American Truck site .......but a search only shows two pics, one the fire engine above and one cross sectional view. Did not try Google books as previous experience has shown that most cannot be accessed on this side of the pond due to some regulation or other ........ And that is the case with this one.

But Thanks for trying to assist much appreciated.

Will keep looking , it's not critical it's not as though I am going to produce a museum quality model just like to try and get some info ........... As someone famous once said just go for "the pro typical prototype look"  think that's right I never listen to him :D
Title: Re: Autocar Blue Streak 6 cylinder engine
Post by: Gordon Ferguson on July 28, 2013, 02:25:03 PM
Evening Marc,

Oh just thought I would build something in a silly little scale and put in an unusual setting somewhere in the world

;) ;D
Title: Re: Autocar Blue Streak 6 cylinder engine
Post by: chester on July 30, 2013, 07:32:22 PM
The Zis 5 as you pointed out, was produced from the Autocar Dispatch tooling. I'm usually not one to rely on photos of a model to build a model but it appears this fellow did a nice job with the Zis 5 here (some engine shots):

http://www.super-hobby.com/products/Russian-standard-truck-ZIS-5.html
Title: Re: Autocar Blue Streak 6 cylinder engine
Post by: Gordon Ferguson on July 31, 2013, 01:06:22 AM
Thanks, did come across this buried deep on a Polish forum
Title: Re: Autocar Blue Streak 6 cylinder engine
Post by: chester on July 31, 2013, 06:06:48 AM
Perfect, and thanks. I've always wanted to expose the engine on one of these.
Title: Re: Autocar Blue Streak 6 cylinder engine
Post by: mabloodhound on July 31, 2013, 06:53:57 AM
A good find Gordon.   Are those dimensions in mm's?   
Just didn't seem correct at 2' wide & 3' 6" long.
Title: Re: Autocar Blue Streak 6 cylinder engine
Post by: Gordon Ferguson on July 31, 2013, 11:09:20 AM
Well if those measurements are in millimetres and the ZIs 5 engine I have is accurate and not just taken from this drawing then they both agree literally exactly with each other

3' 8" (1109mm) is a pretty reasonable length for a 6 cylinder engine ..... 6" front fan belt etc(6), 6 x say 4" for piston/cylinders (24) , 1" between and around for water jacket, etc (7) and 6" for the flywheel  equals roughly 43"
Title: Re: Autocar Blue Streak 6 cylinder engine
Post by: mabloodhound on July 31, 2013, 03:27:39 PM
thanks Gordon.