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Title: Making holes in plastic tanks to simulate ammo hits
Post by: Dave and Tammy Aarons on March 07, 2013, 10:29:20 AM
Hello all, Can anyone tell us how to make ammo round holes in plastic tank models and also rounds that hit but didn't penetrate ?

Thanks in advance

Dave and Tammy Aarons

working on a Tamiya Panther that will shot up and disabled.
Title: Re: Making holes in plastic tanks to simulate ammo hits
Post by: finescalerr on March 07, 2013, 11:35:10 AM
Please post your progress. To paraphrase one of our resident fantasy luminary, "Chicks dig giant tanks!" -- Russ
Title: Re: Making holes in plastic tanks to simulate ammo hits
Post by: marc_reusser on March 07, 2013, 11:58:35 AM
I haven't done it myself, but have read several articles. Adam Wilder had a real good SBS somewhere as did Mig Jimenez Imay even be in the original FAQ book.The process can be done a couple of ways for both......but the best resilts come from using a pointed soldering iron...some shaping,...softening, etc. Give me a day or so, and I will see if I can find any of the aticles/links.

You could also post/ask on the AK-nteractive, and MIG forums (not discouraging you from asking here....Just in case you wanted faster and multiple opinions. Jon Y Rick here in the forum, probably can give good pointers as well, if they see this post)
Title: Re: Making holes in plastic tanks to simulate ammo hits
Post by: marc_reusser on March 07, 2013, 03:00:43 PM
Dave,

Sent you an email with a PDF.

...and yes, as russ notes, please post your progress.


There is an article by Fernando Gonzalez, on shell impacts, in the Panzer Aces magazine #34

http://www.euromodelismo.com/panzeraces/panzer34.html (http://www.euromodelismo.com/panzeraces/panzer34.html)

Title: Re: Making holes in plastic tanks to simulate ammo hits
Post by: eTraxx on March 07, 2013, 04:12:42 PM
Some impacts on this model
http://www.knminis.com/2012/06/kv-8-flamethrower-tank.html

This tank has been hit numerous times with something. It gouges the metal much like a hot rod into butter. It will often create a ridge around the impact area
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi231.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee141%2Fachtung_album%2Fkv1_hit_several_times.jpg&hash=1549e99bfbe3383989858ac7c84060542d21c1f4)

Hit on a T-62 by an AP shell. Notice the first hit to the left that didn't penetrate (probably HEAT)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploaded.fresh.co.il%2F2009%2F10%2F04%2F55800079.jpg&hash=f517c50d3ca29e87603d974976fd8954c48c66f7)
Title: Re: Making holes in plastic tanks to simulate ammo hits
Post by: Dave and Tammy Aarons on March 07, 2013, 05:28:13 PM
Thanks for info so far.Here is the base Panther so far.
Title: Re: Making holes in plastic tanks to simulate ammo hits
Post by: JohnTolcher on March 08, 2013, 05:45:22 AM
Hi Dave and Tammy, Ed posted some great ref photos. I tried to do this on a KV-2 build a while back:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1114.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk536%2Fjtolchet%2FKV-2%2FIMG_3541.jpg&hash=af805d7b67257bc889445ef0ebec4cc4531828e1)

A pyrograph or solder would have been good but for this I just used a bullet head nail too. I held it in some pliers and heated the end over a flame then carefully pushed against the plastic. It naturally forms the ridges and deformations as it penetrates, but as always it's good to practice on some scrap plastic first.

I think I recall that wispy strands of plastic sometimes formed, these were just cut off as some impacts were worked a little with a sharp blade.

Cheers
JT