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Title: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on February 02, 2013, 01:33:01 PM
G'evening all,

modelling in 1/16 scale was fun, especially for my eyes and fingers ...  ;D

Prototype gauge this time  is 430 mm (approx. 17"), which makes a model gauge of 26,8 mm in IIIf (NEM) - very close to modell gauge of 26,7 mm in IIf (NEM) in scale 1/22,5. Prototype gauges of 430 mm have been used i. e. for mining purposes in Austria. Choosing a prototype gauge of 430 mm gives me the opportunity to build a 1/16 scale Ruhrthaler G 9 loco as well, which ran on 430 mm gauge as a matter of fact.

Actually I built a cardboard mock up of a speeder/rail tractor, based on an old electric Caterpillar® forklift truck. This kind of forklift trucks have usually a gauge in a range from 350 to 500 mm (driving wheels), making this kind of conversion authentic. Even in reality there have been conversions like this, i. e. a STILL® electric truck at Speyerdorf Feldbahn or i. e. the Volk® electric truck in austria, running at Wetterin (drinking water service tunnel).

My mock up is built from grey cardboard and printed white cardboard. The drawings I made in MS PowerPoint® ... as usually. This is not a model, just built for proportion checks and to "get the right feeling". The modell itself will be build from styrene. The sleepers on the pics are the ones for another gauge (16,25 mm = 10.25" prototype gauge) and will be replaced by prototypical ones ...

Does anyone of you have eventually additional information about electric forklift trucks built by CATERPILLAR? I would be thankful for dimensions, pics, links ...
And is there a source for prototypical decals?

Cheers

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Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: marc_reusser on February 02, 2013, 01:44:19 PM
That is a neat concept. Some wonderful scrath/chip and wear possibilities, as it is made from a used forklift.

I don't have any info, but have you tried a google "image"(bilder) search?  Believe it or not, I hve also found servhing Ebay to be a wonderful resource for stuff like this. There are often catalogs, brochures, and repair manuals posted for sale....with photos and technical info and drawings ....these are aften posted by the seller to show the content......and for most of what I/we need it for on something like this, that image/data is enough to get us on the right track, or a reference dim. That we can then use to extrapolate dimensions in a photo.

Marc
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on February 03, 2013, 08:26:39 AM
Quote from: marc_reusser on February 02, 2013, 01:44:19 PM
That is a neat concept. Some wonderful scrath/chip and wear possibilities, as it is made from a used forklift.
... i. e. like on this one (on the right) ...  ;D
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Quote from: marc_reusser on February 02, 2013, 01:44:19 PM
I don't have any info, but have you tried a google "image"(bilder) search?  Believe it or not, I hve also found servhing Ebay to be a wonderful resource for stuff like this. There are often catalogs, brochures, and repair manuals posted for sale....with photos and technical info and drawings ....these are aften posted by the seller to show the content......and for most of what I/we need it for on something like this, that image/data is enough to get us on the right track, or a reference dim. That we can then use to extrapolate dimensions in a photo.
... I did some research, but unfortunately these special type(s) does not seem to appear very often in the research results, but other useful prototypes ...

Cheers
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on February 10, 2013, 12:34:37 PM
G'evening all,

to prove that this is going to be serious  ::), I did some other testing.

The forklift truck on rails will be powered by a Bachmann© On30 unit, regauged like the other On30 units used by my 1/22,5 Feldbahn vehicles of gauge IIf. And I tested the tightest possible radius as well: minimum radius would be approx. 150mm in 1/16 scale, representing approx. 2500mm in reality.    

To get these 45° angles of the side panels seamless I tought of treating the styrene with hot air and bending it over some strip of wood, but I found aonther method: pushing the sheet of styrene flat over the buzz saw, with the saw blade adjusted that kinda low, that it is only cutting a slot/gap from underneath in the styrene.
 
After that the styrene can easily be folded and glued, but it isn't possible to use acetone for glueing in this case. Acetone will dilute the styrene immediately along the wafer thin slot/gap area.

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Cheers
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: Krusty on February 11, 2013, 12:04:46 AM
Gidday Gerald

A different other improved electric truck which may be of amusement value -- an Electruk grafted on to a BEV trammer at Waikino in NZ.

Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on February 11, 2013, 01:30:22 AM
Kevin,

Quote from: Krusty on February 11, 2013, 12:04:46 AM
A different other improved electric truck which may be of amusement value -- an Electruk grafted on to a BEV trammer at Waikino in NZ.
... great find (and being worth to build a model of as well) ... encourages me to believe in "there's a prototype for everything" ...  8)

Cheers
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on March 10, 2013, 12:41:10 PM
G'evening all,

little by little makes at least some progress ...  ;D ... so I was able to make a base plate and a lot of pieces from styrene shape strips.

Apart from that I received from a modelling mate in Sweden (Henrik) a pair of couplings (prototype: supply railway in Lainz/Vienna) for testing purposes, which are manufactured (3D-printing) at shapeways. As the radii I'm going to use are very uncommon tight, these couplings should enable the rail tractor to pull AND push wagons. The coupling rods are going to be shortened to fit, when I figured out their necessary length ...

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Cheers
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on April 15, 2013, 11:58:29 AM
G'day all,

In the meantime I was dabbling with diffrent ideas and made several approches regarding the construction of the chassis. I also tested if it is possible to cut off the corners in a 45° angle with a buzz saw, when all parts are already mounted together. However I don't like the current construction (middle of pic) that much, as it appears to me as too coarse, even most of it will be hidden. Have to think it over and make another approach ...  ::)  

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Cheers
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: marc_reusser on April 17, 2013, 01:39:38 PM
Too coarse?....surely nothing some filling and sanding cant fix, once the basic shape is completed.
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on April 18, 2013, 03:50:37 AM
... um, well ... may be coarse was not the right term ... to me it seems a little bit oversized, so I'm gonna try some other styrene strips/square tubings arriving this very minute, to give the chassis a more sophisticated appearance ...  8)

I think I'm going to use the current chassis for a battery powered, but Moës 4wDM inspiried adaption ... found a nice prototype (http://www.ingr.co.uk/images/sar_locoNo12001.jpg) at the Springfield Agricultural Railway (http://www.ingr.co.uk/sar_intro.html) ...

Cheers

BTW: What would be a suitable "english" term for a construction like this storage battery powered, forklift truck on rails: ... speeder? ... rail tractor? ... rail truck? ... battery loco? ... battery critter?
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: finescalerr on April 18, 2013, 11:23:12 AM
Any of the above terms would work. "Battery powered critter" would be the most general and inclusive term.

Looking forward to the new frame and superstructure.

Russ
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: marc_reusser on April 18, 2013, 02:29:07 PM
That is a very cool prototype. Really like the design of the pilot-beam/bumper.
I think the weathering is a bit overdone.  ;D

Thanks for the site link as well...some really great reference photos for critter and weathering inspiration....I can already see some projects in my future.
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: Franck Tavernier on April 21, 2013, 01:21:28 AM
Nice project Gerald!

Thanks also for the link. Ah the Moes gas loco...

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Franck
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: shropshire lad on April 21, 2013, 01:42:46 AM
Quote from: finescalerr on April 18, 2013, 11:23:12 AM
Any of the above terms would work. "Battery powered critter" would be the most general and inclusive term.

Looking forward to the new frame and superstructure.

Russ

  I would call it a " branch line steam shunter " . But I don't know much about locos !

  Nick

  Yeah , yeah , I know . I'm going .
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on April 21, 2013, 01:48:11 PM
Franck,

thanks for providing me/us with a drawing of the Moës ... very much appreciated!

Quote from: Franck Tavernier on April 21, 2013, 01:21:28 AM
Thanks also for the link. Ah the Moes gas loco...
... yeah, the Moës really caught my eye ...  :o ... I'm definitely going to build a Moës 4wDM inspiried adaption of this battery powered critter, but I started as well dabbling with the idea to build this loco in 1/16 scale, even though I don't like the idea of building diesel locos (or "loci", if someone's willing to be particularly pedantic  ;)) which run soundless or without adequate sound respectively ...

Cheers

BTW: Regarding the drawing, the Moës seems to have width of 1230 mm ... that's hard to believe!
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: Franck Tavernier on April 21, 2013, 01:55:25 PM
Quote from: mad gerald on April 21, 2013, 01:48:11 PM
BTW: Regarding the drawing, the Moës seems to have width of 1230 mm ... that's hard to believe!

Yes Gerald, the MOES is a very small gas loco like the HEM !

Franck
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on April 22, 2013, 01:13:26 AM
Quote from: Franck Tavernier on April 21, 2013, 01:55:25 PM
Quote from: mad gerald on April 21, 2013, 01:48:11 PM
BTW: Regarding the drawing, the Moës seems to have width of 1230 mm ... that's hard to believe!
Yes Gerald, the MOES is a very small gas loco like the HEM !
... my intention was more to express my surprise that it's THAT wide, regarding the length of only 2195 mm ... I expected a width of approx. 1000 mm (more or less) ...

So in 1/16 scale it would measure approx. 13,71 x 7,68 mm ...  ::)

Cheers
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: marc_reusser on April 22, 2013, 04:02:29 AM
Franck, thank you for the drawing. Will be a great help.

Can anyone tell me, or have info on what the blue, and the orange locos are, that they have on the site?
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on April 22, 2013, 04:08:37 AM
Quote from: marc_reusser on April 22, 2013, 04:02:29 AM
Can anyone tell me, or have info on what the blue, and the orange locos are, that they have on the site?
... for sure ...  ;)

The rusty "orange one":
No.7, Alan Keef 9 (Lister 3 Cylinder ST3 Engine) build date 1982

The blue one:
Spoorijzer Railtractor RT8 (No.112 built 1952)

.. was a piece of cake ...  ;D ... as can be found on the website (http://www.ingr.co.uk/sar_locos.html) too ... (see links on top: introduction, construction, operation, locos, updates) ...  8)

But have you seen THIS (http://www.ingr.co.uk/images/SAR_news086.JPG) in the update section ... ?!?!?!

cheers

BTW: Do you intend to build one of 'em?
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on April 22, 2013, 12:18:54 PM
G'day all,

My last chassis seemed too oversized to me, so I built a new one which matches my idea and corresponds with the prototype. Again I solely used styrene sheet and profiles, glued together with acetone. The massive sidebars will make it easy to mount the side sheet "metal", which will be true to scale and therefore quite thin. The rear part of this battery-powered-former-forklift-now-on-rails is, where the edges of the "sidebars" had been cut off.

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Cheers
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on April 28, 2013, 08:07:45 AM
G'day all,

I glued a groundplate to the chassis as well as some square styrene tubes. The latter will allow better adjustment of following parts, especially of the side panels, which have to be cut very precisely and also have to be pushed flat over the buzz saw, with the saw blade adjusted that kinda low, that it is only cutting a slot/gap from underneath in the styrene to fold the 45° angles in the entrance/exit area.  

The lower part of the fork lift mechanism of the prototype is mounted to the frontplate. A part of that mechanism has to be build too for the model as the "buffer beam" is mounted on it.

Front
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Back
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Cheers
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: marc_reusser on April 29, 2013, 04:11:50 AM
Cool. Coming along.
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on May 03, 2013, 06:48:48 AM
G'day all,

Quote from: marc_reusser on April 29, 2013, 04:11:50 AM
Cool. Coming along.
... thx ...  :)

In comparison with CAD, 3D-printing or even 3D-scanning my method may appear to be out out fashion with the ark ...  ;) ... but it works.

My MS PowerPoint® drawings are printed on self adhesive label, preferably easy to remove - without sticky residue. To get that notch in the rear part of the side panels I turned the saw blade down, only approx. 0,25 mm poking out. Then I moved the side panel (0,5 mm) flat (mind your fingers!) over the buzz saw, folded up the area behind the notch and gave some acetone in the noth with a paint brush. When the acetone has evaporated and the styrene has set again it is remaining in that new position and the notch has almost vanished.

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The current state:

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Cheers
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: lab-dad on May 03, 2013, 07:31:40 AM
Coming along nicely!

TIP:
if you tilt the blade to 45 degrees (not sure if that is possible on your saw) and go half - three quarets of the way through, then you end up with an even better joint.

-Marty
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: finescalerr on May 03, 2013, 01:28:16 PM
Nice, neat work. -- Russ
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on May 04, 2013, 08:03:29 AM
Quote from: lab-dad on May 03, 2013, 07:31:40 AM
Coming along nicely!
Quote from: finescalerr on May 03, 2013, 01:28:16 PM
Nice, neat work. -- Russ
... thanks ...  8)

Quote from: lab-dad on May 03, 2013, 07:31:40 AM
TIP:
if you tilt the blade to 45 degrees (not sure if that is possible on your saw) and go half - three quarets of the way through, then you end up with an even better joint.
... well noted, Marty ... will give it a try with the next version ... or just testing occasionally ...

Cheers
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: marc_reusser on May 05, 2013, 04:34:38 PM
Very nice. Like the back-cut approach.

....and thanks Marty for the angled blade tip.

Marc
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on May 12, 2013, 12:39:39 PM
G'day all,

Meanwhile I glued some styrene parts to the front, where the fork lift mechanism is mounted to the prototype. The opening where a hydraulic tube is lead out to operate the hydraulic mechanism at the prototype I covered on the modell with round "sheet metal" (styrene) and imitated a welding line around it with some putty. Using styrene sheet with a thickness of 0,25 mm I carefully glued (with acetone) a skirt around the lower part. Next will be the inner service panels hiding the electrics and mechanics, followed by the left over fork lift mechanism (where the buffer is mounted to) and the seat and it's sub-construction ... and bits and bobs ...

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Cheers
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on June 04, 2013, 12:13:16 PM
G'day all,

Only a little progress to report: In the meantime I almost finished the "firewall". The opening on the left (in driving direction) for the steering linkage (on prototype) has to be closed. Therefore I'm gonna simulate some welded sheet metal (styrene with welding bead from putty).

The service panels are mounted with screws from brass (blackened) with dimensions AF 1,3, M 0,8x2

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Cheers
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: marc_reusser on June 05, 2013, 03:20:29 PM
Nice clean build. And not to be an ass...and I only meantion this, because it is so unlike you to miss this....and it will likely be un-noticed when painted and finished, (as the black/white contrast shows it up)...but the two center rivets in the cab do not seem to align.
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on June 05, 2013, 11:50:59 PM
... ouch ...

Quote from: marc_reusser on June 05, 2013, 03:20:29 PM
Nice clean build. And not to be an ass...and I only meantion this, because it is so unlike you to miss this....and it will likely be un-noticed when painted and finished, (as the black/white contrast shows it up)...but the two center rivets in the cab do not seem to align.
... touché ... you're bl**dy well right ...  :P ... I did not expect it to appear standing out that way on a pic ... umm, well - seems I would have to make my excuse phenomenally good ...  8) ... or try to explain, that this is constistant with the prototype ...  ::) ... as the panel itself is finally fixed with aceton to the firewall and the brass screws are secured with "loc tite" ...  ;D ... have to think about how to fix it ...

Cheers  
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: marc_reusser on June 06, 2013, 01:02:00 AM
Sorry....had to prove I am worthy of my rivet counting shirt ;)
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: finescalerr on June 06, 2013, 01:03:57 AM
The shirt does not apply. Your comment has nothing to do with counting; it has to do with placement. -- Russ
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on June 06, 2013, 01:13:46 AM
Quote from: finescalerr on June 06, 2013, 01:03:57 AM
The shirt does not apply. Your comment has nothing to do with counting; it has to do with placement. -- Russ
... oh come on Russ, don't start splitting hairs ...  ;) ... we could i. e. discount this misplacement ...  ;D

Quote from: marc_reusser on June 06, 2013, 01:02:00 AM
Sorry....had to prove I am worthy of my rivet counting shirt ;)
... where'd you get those shirts? I only got a badge ...  :(

EDIT: Just found it ...  ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: marc_reusser on May 31, 2013, 02:37:45 PM
Yes, it is real. It is available online here:

http://www.spreadshirt.com/keep-calm-and-count-rivets-t-shirt-C3376A12306829 (http://www.spreadshirt.com/keep-calm-and-count-rivets-t-shirt-C3376A12306829)

Material/fabric is not the thickest (like a Hanes Beefy-T).....but it will do.
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on November 02, 2013, 01:43:43 PM
G'evening all,

May be somebody already started wondering what happened to the CAT-style forklift truck on rails ... (regarding over 2,800 views) ... umm, well, it spent some time as a shelf orphan as I was not able to continue work. In the meantime I modified the layout of my blog.

Recently I started to create a mock up of an rail tractor even smaller than the CAT rail tractor, heavily inspired by an ASEA storage battery locomotive (Lok 23) (http://fmbbm.laurell.nu/association/drawings_battery.html) of the Frövi Maskin & Bruksbanemuseum (thanks to my modelling mate Henrik Laurell). But soon I discovered that it's appearance was rather bulky pretty ugly, so I did not finish it. But IMHO the chassis seemed to be a good start for a matching modern Feldbahn wagon, so I made another attempt building a (mock up of an) bulk head wagon, a flatcar can be easily adapted and is already in progress. Building report regarding the wagons will follow up soon as well as a progress on the CAT rail tractor.

You may ask yourself, why I chose this pug-ugly colour like dwarf skin? Well, it's kinda paying homage to the Struppe Akkulok (hospital supply railway in Lainz/Vienna) ... AND ... Marc did a good SBS regarding the weathering on the buoy he build for the "Watery grave" page 7 (http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=316.90) which hopefully would enable me to reproduce the look ...  8)

Cheers

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Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: finescalerr on November 03, 2013, 12:57:37 AM
Better get a pump. In the first photo it looks like the loco has a flat tire. -- Russ
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on November 03, 2013, 01:56:16 AM
Quote from: finescalerr on November 03, 2013, 12:57:37 AM
Better get a pump. In the first photo it looks like the loco has a flat tire. -- Russ
... come on, Russ (the eagle-eyed) ...  ;) ... honestly - what can one expect from a crappy mock up from cardboard and paper ...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: finescalerr on November 03, 2013, 12:35:15 PM
What are you, a wise guy or something? -- ssuR
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on November 04, 2013, 03:43:52 AM
Quote from: finescalerr on November 03, 2013, 12:35:15 PM
What are you, a wise guy or something? -- ssuR
... stark, raving mad ... (https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F8168%2F3520jester-thumb.gif&hash=d928104d5da5f36afd664e30dd65e3fbeff0a3c7) ... BTW: Have I noticed  a tiny, almost inaudible charming sarcastic undertone "between your lines" ... ?  ??? ::) ;D

Cheers
Title: Re: 1/16 CAT-style forklift truck on rails
Post by: mad gerald on February 08, 2015, 11:59:13 AM
I just wanted to leave a short note, that this project is still alive (or has been resurrected respectively), but I won't continue contributing to this thread here ... in case of interest please feel free to read more following this forum's thread about the Backyard Hospital Supply Railway (inspired by Lainz) http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=2260.msg50312#new (http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=2260.msg50312#new) or visiting my modelling blog (http://www.de.feldbahnmodellbau.de/fahrzeuge-116-cat-stapler-als-akkuschlepper-auf-schienen/) ...

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Cheers