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Title: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: Wesleybeks on November 09, 2012, 04:21:06 AM
Hi guys

Ive hit a serious modelling slump and Im looking for some pictures or websites to get some inspiration to build something. Just something small that will get the modelling juices flowing. Anything from a wall of an interesting structure to some cool vehicle.  Just something that I could complete over a week or so will do.
I know it's a very broad subject, but im sure you all have some interesting websites that you turn to for inspiration.
Looking forward to the help.
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: PhilMorrow on November 09, 2012, 05:05:27 AM
The attached photo is of a Chickory Kiln in Victoria Australia.

Try doing a repo of that wall sign!
Or build the whole building.

Regards
Phil Morrow
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: lab-dad on November 09, 2012, 05:41:54 AM
I find the Library of Congress' HABS site very inspirational and very informative.
Just search for HABS.
Then you can do an advanced search by subject.
Lots of good pictures and drawings too.
When I get in a slump I find the greater the challenge the more fun.
Try something you have (or even someone else) never done.
-Marty
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: mabloodhound on November 09, 2012, 06:28:32 AM
Wes,
Build something that you can finish fairly quick.   Like that wall above and then put it in a frame or shadowbox.
Remember those two shadowboxes that Chester built....do something like that but on the fast and simple scale.
Or something along the lines that Troels is doing with that window and wall.
There have been a number of walls done here on this forum...like those from Chuck Doane.
And then show us the pictures.
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: Barney on November 09, 2012, 06:38:36 AM
I glad I'm not the only one to hit "the great modelling slump" loads to finish but just wanted to do something different come across a generator powered by and old truck under a corrugated roof /open shed so into the junk box and come up with a German Ford light truck.
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages52.fotki.com%2Fv1568%2Fphotos%2F2%2F1908522%2F11285248%2Fphoto-vi.jpg&hash=f80ddd38c051dc21b09da5df6399170c16489281) (http://public.fotki.com/SRMacc/backwoods-generator/gen-1-jpg.html)Hosted on Fotki (http://www.fotki.com)

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages109.fotki.com%2Fv78%2Fphotos%2F2%2F1908522%2F11285248%2Fphoto-vi.jpg&hash=072e5620cf3ec039c30666b9affc403256ca4ff5) (http://public.fotki.com/SRMacc/backwoods-generator/1-gen-jpg.html)Hosted on Fotki (http://www.fotki.com)

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages51.fotki.com%2Fv93%2Fphotos%2F2%2F1908522%2F11285248%2Fphoto-vi.jpg&hash=3e0925f06941d1f73cf887f886537d22120e0e16) (http://public.fotki.com/SRMacc/backwoods-generator/2-gen-jpg.html)Hosted on Fotki (http://www.fotki.com)

Barney
coming out of the slump
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: Ken Hamilton on November 09, 2012, 07:12:18 AM
NOW you're talkin'....
I'll be wathcing this closely!  Nice job so far, Barney.
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: Mobilgas on November 09, 2012, 07:18:13 AM
Slump"  :-\    S#*T..... im in a Big One.....wish i could get out of it.  Looks like your heading in the right direction got a good start on the truck ;D
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: Chuck Doan on November 09, 2012, 09:01:44 AM
I know the feeling. Kind of like Modelpause. Any hot flashes?

Maybe a simple laserkit building built out of the box.
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: Ray Dunakin on November 09, 2012, 11:17:18 AM
Modeling slump: Been there, done that!

I have tons of interesting prototype photos on my website. Here are a few things that might inspire you...

This small building in Austin, NV would make a really great model, but I don't know if it could be done in a week:

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FAustin_NV_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_4086c%2FIMG_4086c.jpg&hash=74b159607856e957db78a0f5fd1a499a01f448b8)

More pics of this building, and others from Austin, can be found here:

http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/Austin_NV.html (http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/Austin_NV.html)


Here's a small garage in Tonopah, NV that is very interesting and could be modeled pretty quickly:

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FTonopah_NV_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_3772%2FIMG_3772.jpg&hash=e8784111f2fbfa010a3b86e803617215cf2cd377)

More pics of this building can be found starting here:

http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/Tonopah_NV.html#97 (http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/Tonopah_NV.html#97)


This crumbling stone cabin could be modeled as-is, or you could model it intact:

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FSwansea_CA_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1817%2FIMG_1817.jpg&hash=d0dd55fc5df243dc056837aa05842b9eb48653f1)

More pics of this building can be seen here:

http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/Swansea_CA.html (http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/Swansea_CA.html)



Here's a Southern Pacific Narrow Gauge stock car that has been used as a shed or stable:

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FSPNG_Stock_Car_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1865c%2FIMG_1865c.jpg&hash=1b46cfcf8deb0ec7ddb886f7572126aa12eaf0f6)

More pics of this structure can be seen here:

http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/SPNG_Stock_Car.html (http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/SPNG_Stock_Car.html)


Or for a really quick project, you could build an old outhouse such as this one at Stella's Camp, in the Death Valley area:

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FStellas_Camp_CA_files%2FMedia%2FStellas3%2FStellas3.jpg&hash=fafa94a138bb057d32c183db21d5286dda62cf5f)


This tiny gas station in Silver Peak, NV would also be a good modeling subject:

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FSilver_Peak_NV_files%2FMedia%2F95_1MinersGas%2F95_1MinersGas.jpg&hash=2588243a102587ab7562f522b387fa4c87b50241)

More pics of this building, and others from Silver Peak, can be found here:

http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/Silver_Peak_NV.html (http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/Silver_Peak_NV.html)


Or how about this small wooden church overlooking Manhattan, NV:

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FManhattan_NV_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_7203%2FIMG_7203.jpg&hash=8bba66445dbf04ba03b07af899cb11438c1ffaaf)

More pics of this building, and others from Manhattan, can be found here:

http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/Manhattan_NV.html (http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/Manhattan_NV.html)


Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: finescalerr on November 09, 2012, 11:52:58 AM
Some great ideas but it would take more than a week merely to weather the components! -- Russ
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: Malachi Constant on November 09, 2012, 12:23:51 PM
Go to the beach!  Relax.  When you get back, you'll need something to do and the old ways will take over.  (If the beach isn't practical, go for a walk or a drive and take a camera ... you'll find something interesting.)

Meanwhile, Barney sure found a cool idea ... I'll bet you've got a bunch in your photo folders & bookmarks ... have a second look.

Good luck!
Dallas
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: mabloodhound on November 09, 2012, 02:12:55 PM
Do something, just don't do what Mario just did and up and quit!   He even deleted his website and all the great photos on it.
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: chester on November 09, 2012, 03:18:08 PM
Some great pics there (nifty project Barney)
Not easy to break out of a slump, I feel your pain.

Modelpause, heh,heh...
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: Malachi Constant on November 09, 2012, 03:29:13 PM
On a silly but serious note ... don't forget that the whole idea of the hobby is to relax and have fun ... I mentioned the beach and other alternatives might prove to provided some needed refreshment.  Then, getting back to the hobby side, consider doing the OPPOSITE of what you want (and that can mean a lot of different things) ... buy a Lego set and build it to look like the picture on the box ... then take it apart and see what else you can make ... take some of your paints and a little scrap of something and paint a little portrait or landscape ... get some other little craft kit and put that together ... forget about making a masterpiece of any sort for a while ... cut up a cereal box and make shapes out of the pieces ... try doing something stupidly simple or oddly amusing ... take a break to enjoy some tapioca or what-not ... make a boat out of tin foil, and keep trying that till you make one that actually floats ... then use some leftover tin foil to make yourself a nice hat!  ;D

In other words, let go of all the crappy thoughts that keep you in a crappy place ... so there will be room for some nice, fresh fun ideas.  Sometimes, "letting go" can be a challenge itself, so you have to do some of the things along the various stupid, silly and/or amusing ideas in the preceding paragraph to PUSH out those crappy thoughts.  Been there ... done that ... we all have ... we all need to do it again from time to time.  

And, again, best of luck!
Dallas
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: shropshire lad on November 09, 2012, 03:42:07 PM
Quote from: mabloodhound on November 09, 2012, 02:12:55 PM
Do something, just don't do what Mario just did and up and quit!   He even deleted his website and all the great photos on it.


I just checked his website and you are right . Do you know any more of why he has done this ? It wasn't something we said was it ?

   Hopefully he'll change his mind and bring it all back ,

   Nick
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: Malachi Constant on November 09, 2012, 04:04:14 PM
Quote from: shropshire lad on November 09, 2012, 03:42:07 PM
Quote from: mabloodhound on November 09, 2012, 02:12:55 PM
Do something, just don't do what Mario just did and up and quit!   He even deleted his website and all the great photos on it.


I just checked his website and you are right . Do you know any more of why he has done this ? It wasn't something we said was it ?

   Hopefully he'll change his mind and bring it all back ,

   Nick

Nick -- see here:  http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=38223

Mario -- good luck, have fun, we'll see ya on the way back 'round ...
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: Ray Dunakin on November 09, 2012, 04:11:52 PM
Quote from: mabloodhound on November 09, 2012, 02:12:55 PM
Do something, just don't do what Mario just did and up and quit!   He even deleted his website and all the great photos on it.

Dang, there was a lot of good, inspiring modeling displayed in those photos. I had his site bookmarked for future reference.

Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: TRAINS1941 on November 09, 2012, 06:21:21 PM
Quote from: shropshire lad on November 09, 2012, 03:42:07 PM
Quote from: mabloodhound on November 09, 2012, 02:12:55 PM
Do something, just don't do what Mario just did and up and quit!   He even deleted his website and all the great photos on it.


I just checked his website and you are right . Do you know any more of why he has done this ? It wasn't something we said was it ?

  Hopefully he'll change his mind and bring it all back ,

  Nick

He made a statement on RR-Line.  But it doesn't really say why.

And if you go on Tuesday's Crew Lounge under Voting Day Breakfast!!!  Someone made a comment and Mario gave a rebuttal!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's just a shame that he closed down the site.  It was such a reference to so many people.

Jerry
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: marc_reusser on November 09, 2012, 11:51:16 PM
Wessley, truly understand where you are coming from...no easy solution....it will resolve in time.  FWIW....don't think or stress about starting and completing a project...especially a larger one....when you do feel the need or urge to sit at the bench, just feel free and comfortable to puttter....even if just rearanging everything for the umpteenth time.....try building small things....little detail parts, a wheelbarrow, a pipe rack, a tricycle...whatever...just whatever strikes your interest, and will be a mentally fun and relaxing project...something that you maybe can try some new techniques or skills on...and something you can easily finish in a few days or a week.....and if you don't, its no big deal, no big cost...and no big abandoned build. ...hell maybe just take some stuff from the scrap box and have fun practicing some painting or weathering approaches that you want to learn or are curious about.....even if it is as simple as chipped paint effects on a few boards.

I have found that doing a simultaneous small project offline, via email, with another modeler that you respect, can be hugely inspiring, and motivating....you both build the same item (nothing big)...and you do so to learn from and challenge one another....no winners or better than....just mad improvement of skills and techniques....and because it is offline, and only the two of you, you can share, critique and discuss tiny progress steps and photos on a daily basis...think of it as if you were both sitting at the same table, having fun, and just shooting the breeze about the build and techniques......by being offline, there is no pressure to producce and complete big steps to show progress pics for discussion or feedback.....this way you can get it on the slightest step or test piece.

I do hope this will pass for you, and look forward to seeing your work here again when you feel back in the mood....and remember...we here are all equally interested in minute steps and small builds, if you feel like posting....that's one of the reasons/intent of the Bits Piecces and Clutter thread in the Dioramas section.


OFF TOPIC:

Good for Mario rebutting. That's one of the reasons I left RRL as well.....also to much bullshit and attaboys, not enough quality modeling and critiques.

Mario I wish you the best on your new journey.
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: 1-32 on November 10, 2012, 12:05:22 AM

to me it is all about seeing something and really wanting it in miniture.there is stuff everywhere .possesing it just like voodo
kind regards kim
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: Gordon Ferguson on November 10, 2012, 03:24:42 PM
Wesley, just catching up .

think we all hit that particular wall from time to time, however it helps if you can identify what the real issue is ...... are you just lacking inspiration to model or is it you can't find something origonal to model

Its the "origonal" bit that usual hits me ................ never really understood those guys who make 53 spitfires, or 17 tiger tanks .

I usually find that using Google image and just typing a few subjects that i have a general interest in helps. You may find a image which interests you slightly, follow it back to the origonal site and see what else is there .... it is truly amazing what you can find when you start following a trail.

As an example I was looking for some info/pics of 1950 American light trucks and came across a picture which lead me to discover this guy

http://members.fotki.com/TheNewcityFamily/about/

Have a look at his albums, Ford Model T's , early racers, salt lake speedsters  .... I will make a model of one of those based on a WW2 droptank , Ford AA trucks, etc, etc


Failing all that take a walk around the neighbourhood, I'll bet you will see something which would make a neat little project for a week .......... as others have said keep it very simple and small

These were 2 little learning projects ,which each took only a couple of hours but taught me a lot  ( of what and what not to do !)

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee275%2Fgfadvance%2FMarshWaterExper063A.jpg&hash=377d80d28267d3b8ed87e2ead43058e1918c0249)

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee275%2Fgfadvance%2FMarshWaterExper154.jpg&hash=d1a1bfcd815c394ec94df22ce9662019d1dcebbd)

They are both 1/35 so very small ... but small = progress and that is satisfying and rewarding.

Hope inspiration strikes soon  :)
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: David Emery on November 11, 2012, 07:51:47 AM
When I'm in a slump, looking at great model railroads doesn't really help, because they make me feel inadequate.  The primary cause of the slump is usually when I'm not getting the results I want with the effort I can afford to use.

When the urge starts to return, I usually dig out a good kit, usually a resin car kit, that I can assemble in a couple of hours.  That gives me the sense of accomplishment that I'm missing. 

dave
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: eTraxx on November 11, 2012, 09:51:29 AM
This little scene has all kinds of possibilities

Shorpy - Mobilized: 1917 (http://www.shorpy.com/node/14042)
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: Wesleybeks on November 11, 2012, 11:00:42 PM
Hi guys.

Thanks for all the awesome links, pictures and great ideas. Gordon I think you hit the nail on the head. I'm full of inspiration, its the lack of something original that has been getting me down.

I'm going to spend sometime this week going through the links here as well as Shorpy and Flickr and I'm sure something will catch my eye. Look at things with a fresh perspective is definately going to help.

Thanks again everyone.
Title: Re: Help needed to escape modelling inspiration slump
Post by: Lawton Maner on November 14, 2012, 09:25:21 PM
When I hit a slump, I look for something which will challenge my skills.  Since not all of my projects are models, some are 1:1 pieces of furniture, I look for a component of the piece which will force me to do something I've never done before.  The project doesn't have to be difficult, just have a new technique in it.

I have a 36" diameter drop leaf table in my hall which is a good example.  I had never cut a wooden hinge before, never done a mortise and tenon joint at a 45 degree angle and never done a rule joint (the cove and bead where the drop leaf meets the table top).  By the time I was finished I had added 3 new skills to my kit. 

After the NMRA meet in Suffolk, Va last month I am going to teach myself vacuum injection moulding in order to be able to produce my own parts which I hope eventually will be as good as some I can buy.  Once I get started, I will post a picture of the new toy I'll have to buy on "How I spent my allowance".  My Snap-On dealer will deliver to me a 5cfm vacuum pump on the first of December. ;D  I figure I will need about 500 pairs of joint bars so they will be first. 

The Gallows Turntable published in the Narrow Gauge Gazette in the late 1980's is another example.  It has been on my bench for over 4 years now as I build each phase of it in my mind before actually doing it.  Thinking through the spider ring took me over a decade of thought before I started rolling the parts.  As soon as I treat it with bras blackening solution, I'll post a picture if I can figure out how to use my wife's digital camera and then get the image onto my computer.