This is the kit I will be using....or at least 4cm of it. It is a beautiful kit; doing what I am to it is tantamount to heresy.....but I just cant get rid of this monkey on my back.
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....and so it begins.
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Marc
(No worries Gordon...the roller is still on the bench. I am simply multi-tasking. ;D )
I really don't know what is worse, the fact that you are resurrecting old projects ...... that I remember this the first time around probably means I have been here too long ....... it creates a very bad example to those of us who like starting but never finishing
Or
the concept of you "multi-tasking" ........... next you will want to start getting in touch with your feminine side, posting sweet little comments , etc etc.
p.s. you might find this useful www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page25.html, and this for ideas on interior finishing www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page36.html ......... bracing wires, turnbuckles ...............
Don't let Bernard see you butcher one of Wingnut Wings fine creations , it is sagrilege of the highest order . Why couldn't you use a model from a lesser manufacturer ?
Looking forward , as usual , to seeing this one finished ,
Nick
Quote from: shropshire lad on August 22, 2012, 12:25:59 AM
Don't let Bernard see you butcher one of Wingnut Wings fine creations , it is sagrilege of the highest order . Why couldn't you use a model from a lesser manufacturer ?
I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately no other mfr. (that I could find) makes this particular fuselage part, nor the proper MG. The guilt is ovewhelming. But I am working on drowning it in Scotch, and the smell of liquid cement.
Quote from: shropshire lad on August 22, 2012, 12:25:59 AM
Looking forward , as usual , to seeing this one finished ,
How long can it possibly take, to build a 4cm long model!?
Quote from: gfadvance on August 21, 2012, 11:30:01 PM
I really don't know what is worse, the fact that you are resurrecting old projects ...... that I remember this the first time around probably means I have been here too long ....... it creates a very bad example to those of us who like starting but never finishing
Or
the concept of you "multi-tasking" ........... next you will want to start getting in touch with your feminine side, posting sweet little comments , etc etc.
p.s. you might find this useful www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page25.html, and this for ideas on interior finishing www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page36.html ......... bracing wires, turnbuckles ...............
HA!...thanks for the laugh. I truly needed that.
I thought that I had posted/started a thread on this here, somewhere, before, but for the world of me I couldn't find it. I thought I was losing my marbles. (so I gave up searching, and dealt with trying to pick what few marbles I had left off the floor).
Thanks for those links. Splendid
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please not flower power !!!
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Might as well let the cat out of the bag.....here is what it will eventually become:
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Well, somebody has to ask ... what GAUGE is it? -- Anonymous ;D
I think they shipped that to Coney Island after the war. Cyclone shooter, something like that. Or maybe the Kaiser Roll
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Might as well let the cat out of the bag.....here is what it will eventually become:
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Battery/electric powered ? I look forward to seeing it whizzing around your layout that you are going to build especially for it . Is the machine gun going to work ?
Quote from: shropshire lad on August 22, 2012, 12:25:59 AM
Looking forward , as usual , to seeing this one finished ,
How long can it possibly take, to build a 4cm long model!?
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Okay how long does it take?????
Jerry
This is by far one of the most amazing ways to combine all different disciples of modeling into one project:
Railroad, aircraft and military. Now if the target would show a naval vessel you'd kill em' all in one strike.
Very nice!
You cut up a wingnuts kit :o :o :o ??? ??? ??? ???
really ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
those kits are works of art,..................................
the horrorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
MPH
Marc ............................................... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it has taken me days to dry my tear stained keyboard. This is truly sacrilege warranting a full year banishment to the corner (rather surprised that uncle Russ hasn't imposed some form of fine).
all this is made even worse by the fact that you would have found the same components in a kit less deserving a full build from Rhoden or Eduard (check out the Eduard "weekenders" at $12 a pop.
however having said all that you have partially redeemed yourself by treating us to such a wonderful prototype. let me know if you need a running chassis for it.
above all have fun & stay cool
Bernard
So sorry for the anguish Bernard,.............unfortunately modelbuilding requires us all to suffer and sacrafice a bit. ;)
You are correct, a Roden kit would have been the better route for this especially given the cost of the WN kit....BUT.....at the time WN, was the onhly company on the market, that I was aware of (as well as others that helped me with finding the kit), that manufactured a Lewis gun of any decent quality. Now WN seems to ffer the Lewis gun sprue as a seperate purchase/item....so this sprue and the Roden would likely have been a great combo...however, at the time I was shopping for, and ordered the kit, that seperate sprue did not seem to be available.
The upper curvature/lines of the RE8 fuselage shape is not exactly the same as the ones in the piece in the image, but I am OK with that. I am fine building a model that is "plasuibly" close to the image (as I lack any other hard information on the unit)....and would actually like to get it completed in a reasonable time-frame. ;D
Running chassis!??...you very funy man!.....(though if I did suddenly lose my senses, I think I have a Black Beetle mech somewhere that would likely fit in the box.)
Marc
Marc,
There is easily room in the chassis of that thing for a decoder, speaker enclosure and probably even some fibre optic to run into the barrel of the gun ;D
Dan
Roughed out sub-assemblies. Two hull/body halves only loose fit. Body end panles will receive final shaping after interior is painted and installed. Wheels are Grandt Line. Shouldered axles were made from brass rod soldered into brass tubing.
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Nice, clean fabrication. -- Russ
Reminds me of Ozzy Osbourne´s "Crazy Train" ;D ;D and crazy it is but I´m sure the finish will be awesome!
Anders
Quote from: Junior on September 03, 2012, 06:11:45 AM
Reminds me of Ozzy Osbourne´s "Crazy Train" ;D ;D and crazy it is but I´m sure the finish will be awesome!
Anders
LOL. Yeah, its like some kind of mad carnival ride.
...OK... a bit of progress. It's slow going, because there are a lot of steps in a very small area.
The ever risky, "milling almost finished delicate parts". I was debating adding the notch that the one in the photo had, but in the end felt, that that was an important visual feature/detail.
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Primer coat, and test fitting interior after cutting notch and applying upper bulkhead piece.
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The real RE-8 sides at the gunners compartment were canvas, however, as this contraption did not need to fly, and likely needed to be more sturdy due to heavy use, I am going to interpret them as being made of Plywood, but in order to give the trainee a more accurate sense of the space in a plane, the ribbing and framing of the plane would be present.
I will be using the plywood decals made by Uschi van der Rosten (Alexander Glass) http://www.uschivdr.com/ (http://www.uschivdr.com/), so I will be following his painting steps pretty closely.
I need to fully paint and weather the interior before I can work further on the exterior;
Base color XF-59.
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Temporarily inserting interior frame, and lightly out-lining frame pieces in pencil.
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A mix of panel shading and CM, following the previously drawn pencil lines. (Interior framing in left half is inserted just for photo, to show effect.)
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A light blend coat and fading, using approximately a 60/40 mix of XF-15 and XF-55. (Interior framing just temporarily inserted.)
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Decals applied. I wet the painted surface with Microscale decal setting solution, with a small amount of carpenters glue thoroughly mixed in.
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At right are the different plywood patterns/decals I used for the different surfaces,
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Plywood interior slightly darkened and tinted reddish brown with ABt-502 Oil paint "Dark Rust".
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Some slight CM on the interior frame members. All upper surfaces were painted with a lighter color mix (left colors), while underside of all memebers was painted with a darker mix (right colors).
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Pre-shading/corner shading on the floor surface (to prep for plywood decal application) using thinned AK-Interactive streaking grime.
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Now just need to wait for all the oils to cure for a couple of days.
Neat work, as one would expect.
I purchased some of those decals and their in a drawer somewhere awaiting a suitable project ...... Looks as they do a great job.
Glad to see the "primer on the nail" effect as well ;)
Can you post a picture of the Lewis gun some time soon, and what you think of it, as thinking of purchasing that set for something ?
Thanks Gordon. First decal really scared the heck out of me.....the whole process is like heading out into the vast unknown (and definitely outside my comfort zone).
I really like the results of the decals. Great product. Was dubious at first...but now, have lots of ideas and uses floating around in my head. ;D
Sorry to say, the patterns I used are not yet on the market...they were some thrown in test samples,....but, it's my favorite pattern (I have the 3 others that are out as well)...hopefully it will be out/available soon. (or drop Alex a line, and see if he will print you a set of these.)
Grey is my color. ;) ;D
Will post a pic. I know nothing about Lewis guns, but insofar as the casting and detail go it is typical WN high quality. (I was told by several people when I started this build, theirs is the best...and pretty much only one on the market. There is one by someone else, but it is supposedly garbage.)
Great start on the paint job!
Saw a couple of P.E. templates for wood grain, plywood etc. if you want to air brush the patterns. Forgot the manufacturer but you will find them here somewhere http://www.relishmodels.co.uk/ if anyone is interested.
Anders
Thanks Anders.
Not much progress, or anything exciting...just a couple of hours.
Next step was to apply a plywood pattern to the sub-floor. The UvdR decals were cut into the approprate width strips and inserted between the cleats. Once set the excess was trimmed. One can see the decals in place on the left half, and the painted base surface on the right.
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After the decals were in place, a glaze/tinting of Abt-502 'Dark Rust' was applied (sim to the interior side walls). The oil paint was applied with the smaller brush, while the flat round tip brush was used to work the coloraround. More color was worked into the sides, to create a shading/wear difference from the center (effect doesn't really show in this photo). A Q-Tip was used, to remove the oil paint/color from the top of the cleats and perimiter frame.
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Cheers
Really nice work Marc!
By the way I saw the P.E. templates I mentioned and they are only usefull for larger areas no way they would fit a job like this and those decals are just great. Also saw pictures of aircrafts where Uschi had applied them and they are indeed fantastic.
Hope I will live to see the track completed as well ;D ;D ;D!
Anders
These plywood decals are really effective ..... and neatly applied .
Do me a favour though, stop posting such neat set ups ...... everything is so clean and tidy, could you not just sweep an area clear on the bench as I do to take a pic ....... might make the rest of us feel better.
Mark,
The success you had with the plywood decals is stunning. Thanks for posting.
Geoff
Thanks Gordon and Goeff.
The drn things are actaully pretty addictive. :D Mkes me itch to do some kind of panel truck or van, where I cn ue them on the interior.
They come in1/48 as well, so somebody building a more contemporary RR subject, like a boxcar or caboose with ply sheathing on the inside could use them as well.....heck I can see numerous uses....all that one would neeed to adapt/experiment with, is the undercoat and staining colors that would be appropriate for their use/conditions.
I was looking around the website .. and very interesting. I think I could find a use for 1:48 decals like that. I was curious about the website name and found this - http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/uschi-van-der-rosten/51535-uschi-van-der-rosten.html
Ok, who's going to be the first one to use these decals of a scale model of a (cue the Beachboys music) Woody?
Quote from: Lawton Maner on September 11, 2012, 03:59:48 PM
Ok, who's going to be the first one to use these decals of a scale model of a (cue the Beachboys music) Woody?
You are ...
Well volunteered that Man !
UvdR (Alex), already did a woody with these/his decals....came out beautiful. I beleive he has, or is planning, a couple more Woodie versions/models.
Been swamped with work and life stuff, but had some time today at the bench to make a bit of progress, and finally finish the main wood bits.
Wood frame was grained with oil paints, and then given a diluted mix of; Vallejo "Glaze", "Stain Clear", & Model-Air "Camo-Black Brown" & "Red Brown"...the mix was brush applied and worked towards the edges of the floor, and ends of any frame members. Same was added onto the side walls. The acrylic glaze layer sealed the oil wood graining, so that the floorcould then be...further weathered with a mix of AK, CMK, & MIG pigments...layered and worked into place with odorless turpentine, and held in place with Pigment Fixer. Note that care was taken to make sure the centera area of the floor, and especially the tops of the cleats, were left lighter to represent the wear areas on the wood, and add some interest.
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...and yes, that is the ubiquitous cat hair stuck under the decal (Luckily its mostly hidden by the center post of the frame.
Thanks for confirming it was a "cat" hair Marc ;)
Wood graining and darkened weathering is looking just superb. This is perhaps one of those perfect examples of "because I know it's in there" modelling, since most of this will be difficult to find once the cockpit is finally assembled, and especially if displayed with a figure onboard. You should make a point to keep some of the under construction images close handy when this is complete for proof of what's on the inside.
Cheers,
Dan
QuoteThanks for confirming it was a "cat" hair Marc
....LOL. In food thoug, it's never a cat hair. :-X
Thanks Dan.; it was touch and go, with a good amount of frustration, trepidation, and second guessing ....and some areas on the frame got a bit overworked...but those will hopefully not be too visible. Yes, as you note..very little if any will be visible.....but this has been a great learning and skill building process so far....and that's generally the purpose behind my builds (hence why I rarely finish anything ;D ) ...and, yes, there is that twisted satisfaction that comes with knowing it's in there. ;D
While looking through my drives for some reference pics for Gordon, I found what I can build with the leftover parts from the kit (though will likely need to toss a tarp over the infill area for the part I used. :) )
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QuoteThanks for confirming it was a "cat" hair Marc
Yes, as you note..very little if any will be visible.....but this has been a great learning and skill building process so far....and that's generally the purpose behind my builds (hence why I rarely finish anything ;D ) ...and, yes, there is that twisted satisfaction that comes with knowing it's in there. ;D
With all that learning , skill building and unfinished projects you have amassed you must be the greatest modeller that the World has ever seen !
Looking forward to seeing this one finished .
Well, Nick ol chap....just because I continue to learn new things, doesnt mean I remeber/retain what I. learned previously
Here is an even better/more interesting choice for the kit remains....and it's even an RE-8.
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Quote from: marc_reusser on September 26, 2012, 04:04:25 AM
Well, Nick ol chap....just because I continue to learn new things, doesnt mean I remeber/retain what I. learned previously
Here is an even better/more interesting choice for the kit remains....and it's even an RE-8.
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Shame it is not 1/35th scale or it could be pulled by something like this !