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Title: A Filthy Gondol
Post by: Erkut Baykal on May 26, 2012, 06:26:50 AM
I've been doing some weathering on some of the spoils of Dortmund; boxcars, loco's etc in my spare time.

There was this one incident that I captured photo's of a rake of gondols from the train while travelling  from Dortmund. They were perfect examples of how an aged gondol would look like. The photos were taken while the train was in motion so excuse the blurriness.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi248.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg169%2Febaykal%2FDortmundSelcuk126.jpg&hash=b18d3556f679202becfd263cc0498a5492659828)

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...and my version on a 1:87 Roco Gondol;

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi248.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg169%2Febaykal%2Fgondol045.jpg&hash=f453cbb983c5083824800c6bda30aa2f25b701e4)

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Erkut
Title: Re: A Filthy Gondol
Post by: Mobilgas on May 26, 2012, 07:02:56 AM
Erkut,    Look's good.....the flaking of the rust i like :)
Title: Re: A Filthy Gondol
Post by: Chuck Doan on May 29, 2012, 11:42:38 AM
Those are interesting prototypes too. Nice!
Title: Re: A Filthy Gondol
Post by: chester on June 02, 2012, 06:51:00 AM
Erkut, wonderful weathering but I can't help but notice the lack of bulges and denting as are seen in the prototype. Is anyone out there proficient in creating dents in plastic. I have tried with the soldering iron and a piece of brass shim but my efforts aren't completely satisfactory. I suppose I should ask the question in "tips and techniques" so I don't hijack this thread. Otherwise a great job Erkut.
Title: Re: A Filthy Gondol
Post by: jacq01 on June 02, 2012, 10:39:36 AM

  I second Chester. When I have access to my stuff, I'll show some techniques.

   jacq
Title: Re: A Filthy Gondol
Post by: Ray Dunakin on June 02, 2012, 08:10:19 PM
I wondered about the dents too, and am curious to see how they can be replicated realistically. Like Chester, I've tried heating and deforming on similar items with less than satisfactory results.
Title: Re: A Filthy Gondol
Post by: chester on June 02, 2012, 09:16:03 PM
I've tried cutting out the plastic panels (on a dump trailer) and replacing them with thin brass sheet that shows wonderful scale denting but really, I might as well have started by scratch building the whole model. Never finished it. (I've been inspired by all of Marc R's work in every way)
Title: Re: A Filthy Gondol
Post by: Erkut Baykal on June 03, 2012, 01:17:22 AM
Thanks guys,

I'd really like to know about the denting techniques, so please lead the way.

I thought about going thru the solder iron way but chickened out. I've seen very bad examples of this method, probably thats what put me off.

Another thing that comes to my mind is the same method I used in making the flaking rust but on a much more larger scale.The flakes were done by mixing the appropriate powders with PVA glue with a touch of water.You have a muddy mixture. Then applied to the body with a bristle brush.

Using silicone? ..I'm not sure that came to my mind also. Anyway await to hear your methods.

Erkut