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Title: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Younger on April 17, 2012, 07:27:37 AM
Does anyone have a source for 1/32 or 1/35 corrugated roofing material in either paper or (preferably) aluminum or other metal?
-Younger
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: lab-dad on April 17, 2012, 08:51:08 AM
Why not use the Builder's in Scale 1:48?
I find the scale advertised is (usually) to large. i.e. I use S or HO on my 1:48 stuff.....
-Marty
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Chuck Doan on April 17, 2012, 10:19:50 AM
I used BIS 1/48th corr on my 1/2" garage and it looked OK to me. I just gently pulled the sections out a bit to increase the spacing.
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Mr Potato Head on April 17, 2012, 11:09:27 AM
Stop being lazy!
in 1/32 you have got to build it yourself! It's as easy as a can of corn!
No really, peal the label from a can of corn, and you'll see that it's corrugated! Cut the can screw the non-corrugated parts to a piece of wood and you now have a form to emboss to! easy-Peasey, can of corn!
Mr potato Head
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Chuck Doan on April 17, 2012, 11:48:18 AM
Well then why not just use a cardboard box and paint it silver? :D
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: finescalerr on April 17, 2012, 11:54:56 AM
Elsewhere on this forum I posted a link to a PDF explaining how to make a press to create corrugated metal. If you want the PDF, send me a note and I'll e-mail it to you. -- Russ
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Malachi Constant on April 17, 2012, 01:17:24 PM
Yeah, creamed corn and home-made metal presses not withstanding ... um ... what Marty and Chuck said ... the "off the shelf" 1:48 stuff will actually be sized right for you and make it quick and easy.  You can torture yourself on other elements of the project!  ;)  -- Dallas
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Chuck Doan on April 17, 2012, 02:15:21 PM
The BIS O scale material is approx. .06 spacing (if I remember correctly). That would be pert near perfect for 2" corrugated in 1/35th. The only thing would be the lengths that you might have to cut if you think someone might measure your model for correctness.
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Mr Potato Head on April 17, 2012, 02:40:09 PM
make fun all you want! but it works and its a meal!
Scratch building and food go together!
Man that corrugated roof is yummy!
MPH
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Barney on April 17, 2012, 04:24:54 PM
Don't get complicated - use 1/48 stuff - it looks fine for 1/35th and 1/32
Barney
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Mr Potato Head on April 17, 2012, 07:52:29 PM
Your all a bunch of non- purists!
1/32 is bigger than 1/35, don't go all moderate on me now, you 1/35 purists! C'mon Younger work it out, you've got the skills and the time!
MPH
100% pure Bullshit!
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: marc_reusser on April 17, 2012, 08:09:55 PM
Can I use the corrugated box that the corn cans came packaged in?;D

Corrugated came in various sizes and even some variation in shape.....the choices get even bigger if you're scene is non US based, where they had their own profiles/sizes.

Like the others said....use the BIS. I believe they make 2" and 3" wide sheets (8 and 12 scale feet at 1/48)...those should be sufficient for 1/32.....otherwise, with your jig making skills  you could easily make a press, then use the cookie sheet material. There have been several threads here re this. I know I did one, and I think Gordon did as well.
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Mr Potato Head on April 17, 2012, 08:30:50 PM
I know you and others have done threads on this and they have come out great! I was just making fun with my can of corn, but I did make a corrugated tank using a can of green diced chilies to form the aluminum
(Hey I am Mexican)
I think that if Younger takes his current stash of corrugated and pulls on it width wise it would become 1/32-1/35 and he can cut his to 2 ¼ max so that's 6 feet long
MPH
100% Mexican
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Younger on April 18, 2012, 07:19:16 AM
All good ideas (except for Gil, the Potatohead!). I've ordered some 1:48 corrugated from BIS, and contacted James Coldicott, who makes kits in 1:32, and he indicated he possibly could send me some. I'll post some more info when I receive the material. Thanks all.
-Younger
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: chester on April 18, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Doesn't potato have an 'e' on the end?   ;)

Evergreen also has a styrene sheet of corrugated that they call 1/100 but the corrugations scale out to be more than twice as wide. I bought some thinking I would try Marc's method of using paper wet with glue/water to make some.
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: mabloodhound on April 18, 2012, 12:48:16 PM

Chester, you coulda' been VP.  ;D

One of Evergreen's corrugated measures .040 spacing which is pretty close to 2" in 1:48,
but they also offer .030, .060, .080, .100 and .125 spacing.

8)
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Mr Potato Head on April 18, 2012, 12:59:35 PM
You Say Tomatoes and You say potatoes, but I say Potato Head!
One "L" in Gil and no "E" in potato please
Thanks
MPH
for short
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Malachi Constant on April 18, 2012, 01:40:27 PM
Another source of corrugated material from Idaho ...
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: NE Brownstone on April 18, 2012, 01:58:23 PM
Hmmm, those kind of look like some of the corrugated metal panels I saw after Katrina. 

The coloring is off, however.
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Mr Potato Head on April 18, 2012, 03:08:38 PM
Hey Dallas!
That's the state seal in Idaho! Don't forget to visit the Potato Museum when you visit! We got the world's largest potato chip, a Potato chip with the Virgin Mary, and the head of Christ, oh so much to see.........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_Potato_Museum
http://www.potatoexpo.com/
MPH
I like Jalapeno chips
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Malachi Constant on April 18, 2012, 09:33:51 PM
These ain't corrugated, but they are damn tasty ... my personal favorite ... Zapp's Spicy Cajun Crawtators from New Orleans.  (Yeah, they spell "tators" funny ... and they pronounce everything even funnier ... but the chips are dang good.) -- Dallas
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Mr Potato Head on April 18, 2012, 09:57:13 PM
Last time I was in the gulf, I had me some "fried Gator" boy it was good, hey these chips have my name written all over it, I wonder how I could get some this far north?
MPH
At the 43 parallel
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Malachi Constant on April 18, 2012, 10:24:04 PM
Oddly enough, they showed up at a grocery in Boulder, Colorado when I lived there ... but, I've generally relied on the occasional "care package" from family in New Orleans.

Erstwhile:
http://www.zapps.com/

and they're on amazon.com, etc.

The Crawtators aren't super spicy, but they got a real nice taste and the spice builds up nicely as you go ...

Hmm ... haven't had any potato chips in ages ... but I'll bet some will fall into my shopping cart fairly soon.  ;D

(I'm assuming we've more-or-less settled the original question in this thread and it's safe to wonder way off at this point.)

Cheers,
Dallas

Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: NE Brownstone on April 19, 2012, 05:37:16 PM
Tangent time.  :)

Speaking of the Big Easy, leaving to go there tomorrow.  Jazzfest!  Yee Haw!  Well, that and try to visit friends and family all over the rest of Coonass land.  Yeah, Zapps makes some tasty Crawtator chips, but I'm hankering for a pile of the real bugs.  I found some at a Chinese buffet the other day, but they must have been from China.  Plus, they don't know how to put the spice to them and they definitely didn't use any Zatarains.
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Younger on April 23, 2012, 06:11:31 PM
Got my BIS O scale corrugated today. It measures about 2.4 scale inches from corrugation to corrugation in 1:32 , just about perfect.

About 3.6 scale inches for 1:48 which seems a little too large. I think Marty got it right, drop down a scale or two, to get a more realistic appearance.
-Younger
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Ray Dunakin on April 23, 2012, 07:03:03 PM
Quote from: Younger on April 23, 2012, 06:11:31 PM
Got my BIS O scale corrugated today.

Hey, I got mine today too! Figured I'd try it out for some extra-small corrugations in 1/24th.
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Malachi Constant on April 23, 2012, 07:18:52 PM
Quote from: NE Brownstone on April 19, 2012, 05:37:16 PM
Tangent time.  :)

Speaking of the Big Easy, leaving to go there tomorrow.  Jazzfest!  Yee Haw! 

Well, Jerry got his 1:48 corrugated and it's gonna work, so we can skate off on the tangents again!  ;D

Other, other Russ -- Have a great time and enjoy dem crawfish!  BTW, my uncle's band Zebra is playing at Jazzfest Friday night ... but it's a rock band ... started out as sort of a Zeppelin-style hard rock, but they've been heading more toward a mellower Beatles influence as they (we) all get older.   8)

Cheers,
Dallas
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: compressor man on April 24, 2012, 12:11:25 PM
This is exciting news knowing that the BIS 1/48 corrugated is suitable for 1/35-1/32. Does anyone know if the Rusty Stumps 1/48 is this same size or is it different?

Chris
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: eTraxx on April 24, 2012, 02:27:41 PM
Just a note .. from Wikipedia

Corrugated galvanized iron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrugated_galvanised_iron) ((the wikipedia link spells it galvanised. Go figure)

QuoteThe corrugations are described in terms of pitch (the distance between two crests) and depth (the height from the top of a crest to the bottom of a trough). It is important for the pitch and depth to be quite uniform, in order for the sheets to be easily stackable for transport, and to overlap neatly when making a join. Pitches have ranged from 25 mm (1 inch) to 125 mm (5 inches). It was once common for CGI used for vertical walls to have a shorter pitch and depth than roofing CGI. This shorter pitched material was sometimes called "rippled" instead of "corrugated". However nowadays, nearly all CGI produced has the same pitch of 3 inches (76 mm).

Just seems to me that with phrases like "have ranged" and "once common" along with that pitch having ranged from 1 inch to 5 inches .. you should have a pretty wide field as long as the corrugated metal sheet is from 'back when' and not a recent building.
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Malachi Constant on April 24, 2012, 02:43:38 PM
Rusty Stumps 1:48 corrugated:  Appears to be .060" peak-to-peak ... which would be close to 2" spacing in either scale.  (1.92" in 1:32 .... or 2.1" in 1:35)  I don't have the Builders-in-Scale material for direct comparison.  The stuff I got from Rusty Stumps has a slightly triangular look to the corrugations ... not a smooth wave-shape.

Rusty Stumps 1:35 brick sheets:  I had Walt Gillespie at Rusty Stumps custom-cut some of these for me recently, and now they're on the web site:

http://www.rustystumps.com/proddetail.asp?prod=L1701  (basic brick)
http://www.rustystumps.com/proddetail.asp?prod=L1702  (aged brick)

The face of each brick measures approx. 3x8" on a 1:35 scale rule.  He also has various fancy brick patterns in smaller scales, and may be willing to custom-size those.  BUT ... interesting note ... on the "instructions" for the brick sheet, he notes that you should NOT flex the sheet too much, as individual bricks might pop loose.  Which, of course, immediately made me think:  "Ooh, if I need individual bricks, I can cut off a piece of brick sheet and flex the crap out of it!"  ;D

Rusty Stumps 1:35 stair stringers:  These are NOT on the site right now, but I asked Walt to "up-size" some of his 1:48 stringers for me.  NOTE that these have "ye olde" 1:1 rise/run, which is not suitable for all prototype applications ... but is found on some of the small real-world buildings around town here.  

With a 1:35 scale rule, it's 8" rise over 8" run ... the stringers are long enough to do a 1:35 staircase that's around 23-24' scale height.  (I'd have to punch out the laser-cut stringer and measure at the proper angle against a square to check that ... and I haven't ... so it's somewhere around there!  Anyway, it's the max. length that fits on the standard RC board sheets that he uses.)  (I could also measure the hypotenuse and figure it out from there, but I don't feel like it.)  ;)

The stringers are NOT on the site, but you can email Walt thru the site ... if you want 1:35 stair stringers, you can tell him you want some like Dallas got, and he'll already have a file set up ... if you want some in 1:32 with the same rise/run, he can customize that easily ...

Real-life demands are insane at the moment, so I don't have snapshots of any of this stuff ... it's all stashed with hopes of making more progress on my 1:35 cafe dio at some point!  ;D

Now, back to off-topic bs:  I had some lovely jambalaya last night.  8)

Cheers,
Dallas

Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: finescalerr on April 25, 2012, 01:21:03 AM
Odd. Walt pulled his ad last year claiming none of my readers buys his products. -- Russ
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: marc_reusser on April 25, 2012, 04:38:58 AM
Quote from: finescalerr on April 25, 2012, 01:21:03 AM
Odd. Walt pulled his ad last year claiming none of my readers buys his products. -- Russ


I don't. I buy Builders In Scale. ;D
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: granitechops on April 25, 2012, 04:49:25 AM
Quote from: eTraxx on April 24, 2012, 02:27:41 PM
Just a note .. from Wikipedia

Corrugated galvanized iron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrugated_galvanised_iron) ((the wikipedia link spells it galvanised. Go figure)

QuoteThe corrugations are described in terms of pitch (the distance between two crests) and depth (the height from the top of a crest to the bottom of a trough). It is important for the pitch and depth to be quite uniform, in order for the sheets to be easily stackable for transport, and to overlap neatly when making a join. Pitches have ranged from 25 mm (1 inch) to 125 mm (5 inches). It was once common for CGI used for vertical walls to have a shorter pitch and depth than roofing CGI. This shorter pitched material was sometimes called "rippled" instead of "corrugated". However nowadays, nearly all CGI produced has the same pitch of 3 inches (76 mm).

Just seems to me that with phrases like "have ranged" and "once common" along with that pitch having ranged from 1 inch to 5 inches .. you should have a pretty wide field as long as the corrugated metal sheet is from 'back when' and not a recent building.
Just to add to that,
from trawling my memory I seem to remember 'Big 6' corregated, possibly asbestos sheet, in the 60s here in (sometimes) sunny ole south Devon,
There was also definitely in Asbestos, an industrial size corrugation, ex government (UK) with aternate 9"? wide flats & 5-6 inch corrugations in curved sheets for possibly Aircraft Hanger application, 30-35ft Radius curve, I worked a small Coles crane INSIDE one, although that might have been an American contribution to the war effort
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Bill76 on May 04, 2012, 11:10:57 AM
You could something interesting on this site : www.universmini.com. There a choise of 1/32 corrugated irons with ronund an square shapes. By the way, they introduce some new items as corrugated cardboard as well.

The online shop is in France. Hope you could find what you need.

Georges.
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Mr Potato Head on May 04, 2012, 11:45:04 AM
It's on page 6-7 of the accessories, George next time a little more info would be great, and if you didn't know, it's OK but we Americans are dumb ???, we only know one language, so next time a little help with your beautiful language, por favor  ::)
MPH
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Bill76 on May 04, 2012, 12:13:30 PM
Don't worry Mister Potato, follow these instructions:

- go on www.universmini.com ;
- stay on the green column called '' RUBRIQUES '' it means the differents categories ;
- choose '' ACCESSOIRES '' ;
- then choose in '' Liste des articles '' > BATIMENTS (it means sheds, barns, ...) ;
- another choise appears and choose TOLES / BARDAGES (it means round and square corrugated irons).

The entire range of available items appears and you can have a look on.

If something is wrong, let me know.

J'espère que ces informations te seront bien utiles. Bonne ballade. Georges
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Mr Potato Head on May 04, 2012, 12:39:21 PM
Muy muchas gracias!
Monsieur Pomme de terre tete ::)

Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: marc_reusser on May 05, 2012, 03:25:49 AM
Quote from: Mr Potato Head on May 04, 2012, 12:39:21 PM
Muy muchas gracias!
Monsieur Pomme de terre tete ::)




Le réalité et toi, vous ne vous entendez pas, n'est-ce pas?....On t'a bercé trop près du mur?


Marc
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Bill76 on May 05, 2012, 04:45:39 AM
You might be right, Marc ... Or perhaps Mr PotatoHead has stayed too long in the back of the classroom looking through the window instead of listening to the french teacher !!! Wasn't she enough gorgeous ???

French is not as difficult as that you think, just some practice ...

Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Mr Potato Head on May 05, 2012, 06:48:00 AM
French in school? No it's all Greek to me! I had four years of Latin!  ::)
So when the Romans come back I'll be ready. :o Bill or is it George? Please pay no attention to the Curmudgeon Administrator, his name says it all!  :P
He's fallen off his bike to many times to be taken seriously!  :-[
Hey I would love to come visit your country! Say the word and I will come and be your guest!  ;DYour welcome here in Potato Land anytime. ;D
MPH
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: chester on May 05, 2012, 07:20:21 AM
I'd have to disagree with the Wiki name for what the distance between two crests is. They call it the pitch but when you speak to suppliers it is called the sine. I have purchased corrugated material in asphalt (Onduline), fiberglass (Filon) and of course in galvanized (today with an anodized finish Galvalum). At one time an asbestos corrugated material was available but I haven't seen it for years.The important point I wanted to make was that the sine (or pitch or wave or whatever you want to call it) for each was different. Varying from 1 1/2" between to as much as 3", making the choice of material for modeling a varied one as well.
Title: Re: 1:32 Corrugated
Post by: Mr Potato Head on May 05, 2012, 09:54:42 AM
Chester
That makes sense to me, if you go to my building supply store they come in all different configurations, and of course different lengths and widths.
And when i look at old buildings it seems they used to make it out of hardier material?
MPH