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General Category => Cars, Trucks, and Other Vehicles => Topic started by: JESTER on March 22, 2012, 08:58:45 AM

Title: Cool Chipping
Post by: JESTER on March 22, 2012, 08:58:45 AM
Check out the rest of this site. It's very awesome!!

http://megadeluxe.com/art/car-talk-don-hamerman-photographs
Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: Chuck Doan on March 22, 2012, 09:41:34 AM
Pretty much looks like my Matchbox and Corgi toys before we had had fiery collisions. 
Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: Seattle Dave on March 22, 2012, 12:21:03 PM
Maybe that's the way to get the effect:  Let your kids play with things for a few years.... ;D
Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: JESTER on March 22, 2012, 12:58:28 PM
Similar to this, I was trying to replicate chipping on a chrome surface and did this as a test.
I used the salt technique.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg829.imageshack.us%2Fimg829%2F2677%2Fchromebk.jpg&hash=4f04fa6634cad53772c2a75e9655b87ce6adca21)
Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: lab-dad on March 22, 2012, 07:12:43 PM
Tim,
For chipping chrome look for some silver foil.
I bought a small package at Michael's with several small sheets, an adhesive pen and a burnisher.
I used it on the radiator surround on my big Plymouth to simulate a chrome grille.
I think it worked good.
-Marty
Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: JESTER on March 23, 2012, 05:31:31 AM
Thanks Marty! I'll try it out. The best rattle can chrome I found was by Dupli-Color but I still didn't get the results I wanted.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg269.imageshack.us%2Fimg269%2F1852%2Fimg0984kl.jpg&hash=8647b8a90975740481112bb1d986808549881637)
Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: finescalerr on March 23, 2012, 12:32:44 PM
What's wrong with that? Seriously. What doesn't look right? -- Russ
Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: JESTER on March 24, 2012, 05:43:36 PM
Thanks Russ. The problem was that the Rocket model I made would be handled and the chrome paint scrapes off if you scratch it with your finger.

All of my stuff up till now is over engineered and could probably weather a storm so I didn't like the fact that i had to use kid gloves with it.

Is there a gloss varnish I could have sealed it with? I've only used Dull-Cote on all my projects.


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Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: finescalerr on March 25, 2012, 12:45:14 AM
Dullcote is neither completely dull nor does it offer much protection. I've used Krylon matte and the results were better but not as protective as something else might be. Maybe some of the paint experts will weigh in on this subject. -- Russ
Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: Andi Little on March 25, 2012, 01:21:37 AM
Ahem!........

Not so much a paint expert but just to add another option.

Being in the trade so to speak? - I've always used an Artist's "Matting agent" or "Matt Varnish". My own preference being the Windsor and Newton brand. Although a comparatively modern material in Fine Art terms it is never the less formulated for "archival" performance and is made to a consistent top quality spec'.
It won't take kindly to open abuse but will handle reasonably well - also it's capable of being "burnished" to a sheen for any satinesque effects you might desire - I've discovered.

....... witness Bill and Ted..........

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi180.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx248%2FAndismodelpages%2FBelle%2520Lane%2Fbillted-010.jpg&hash=fad9c3580ceee465c3fbbce80a4ef361b0079504)

A couple of likely lads that were discovered inside a pair of Studio Gibli characters.
Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: Ray Dunakin on March 25, 2012, 05:57:40 AM
I've never seen a rattle can chrome paint yet that would retain its appearance when sprayed with any kind of clear coat.

Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: Andi Little on March 25, 2012, 06:22:09 AM
Ooops.................. I seem to have got all confuddled somehow?

Sorry, I must have read every other line and got the wrong end of the stick - Ray's right; There isn't a "chrome in a can that will take a topcoat of anything and remain "shiny".
Again - in the past I've used Bare Metal Foil or gummed aluminium sheeting. This will cover with most stuff - including future and maintain its "chrome" effect.

Ahem! ......... try again................The radiator on this MG is BMF coated with a thinned coat of enamel tinted marginally with black to stop it "yellowing".
For reference the headlight buckets are "kit chrome" - again with a coat of "black gloss" as opposed to Gloss black; ............... I'm not actually helping am I?

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi180.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx248%2FAndismodelpages%2FMG%2520-%2520TC%2520Build%2520album%2FMG-TC-7.jpg&hash=64cef8f95822b413bc4fa3269d3ba5813daacffc)


Sorry about completely buggering up the first post - in mine own defence it was "stupid o'clock" in the morning and I probably wasn't even awake. Serves me right for trying to join in!!!
Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: Seattle Dave on March 25, 2012, 09:45:32 AM
Andi - Would you happen to be "Yadster" in another life?  That MG looks a little familiar to me, but I'm old and afflicted with CRS.....
Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: finescalerr on March 25, 2012, 12:26:51 PM
What is the solvent for Windsor and Newton Artist's Matte Varnish? -- Russ
Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: Andi Little on March 25, 2012, 04:48:46 PM
And in reverse order.....................

Russ,............. Yes, sorry I should of said shouldn't I; In the main I use the Acrylic [water based] Matt Varnish, and this is what's been used in the pic' of Bill and Ted' initially. It's pretty fab stuff but you must put it on in thin coats if you want to build it up. Thick coats or too soon a reapplication and it will stay "green" and satin. Needs two or three thin coats for a durable [handleable] finish, no real chore though as most brush marks "drop out" as it dries.

Dave ..................... oops! I is undone!!

Yes Dave I was known as Yad' on most all the boards I've frequented - for eases sake still am on the old HH board. The Yadster though doesn't really exist any more as I stopped using the handle after the accident, and as it became obvious that with the lack of clarity and concentration, coordination and psycho-motor skills that I couldn't build to anywhere near the standard I expected of myself. I'm a little embarrassed that you recognised me from such an old build - there are some newer builds but they just take me so much longer now-a-days and most folk get bored waiting for me to finish them. But hey I'm thrilled if I can get two glued surfaces together!!!  :-\
Title: Re: Cool Chipping
Post by: Ken Hamilton on March 29, 2012, 07:42:49 AM
Quote from: Seattle Dave on March 25, 2012, 09:45:32 AM
Andi - Would you happen to be "Yadster" in another life? 
(...I knew that, but didn't let on...)
You can't hide for long in this hobby, Andi.