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Title: The Remora
Post by: FichtenFoo on August 20, 2011, 07:44:26 PM
I almost wanted to post this in the Maritime forum. :P

I wanted to show you the first master I did for Industria Mechanika. I just finished her up today so she's just about ready for my caster. This is an all-new ship design by concept artist Ian McQue who I've been working with to realize some of his concept designs into model form. It's in 1/35 scale and about 11" long. It looks larger than it is due to the sunken wheelhouse.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Findustriamechanika.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fgallery%2Fian-mcque-remora-master-complete%2Fremora-37.jpg&hash=679a7ed4add7307349de3577f8366e5a60501931)

Check out many more Remora pics here:
http://industriamechanika.com/blog/tag/remora/

Check out Ian's other works here:
http://mcqueconcept.blogspot.com/

Industria Mechanika is a company I recently started. We're producing resin kits based on really cool original designs by matching amazing concept artists with talented modelers. We're always looking for talented modelers to work with so please contact us if you're interested in a collaboration.

http://industriamechanika.com/blog/collaborators-wanted/
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: JESTER on August 20, 2011, 09:48:21 PM
Very cool!! I can't wait to see people's paint jobs!!
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: shropshire lad on August 21, 2011, 12:21:18 AM
Oh good , it's got a crane . I'll have one .
Not sure about the tyres as fenders , unless you are being ironic . I thought about using them but figured that by the time mankind had managed to build craft like these it would no longer be driving on roads with wheels . But I guess having them is all part of the fun .
  It is also good you don't need to build a diorama for it . You just hang it from the ceiling in the living room . Just like we used to do with our plastic airplane models .

  Nick
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: finescalerr on August 21, 2011, 12:42:15 AM
Charismatic. -- Russ
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: mad gerald on August 21, 2011, 12:53:56 AM
Michael,

in fact that I came across this topic of modelling in this forum first ... and it's not my favourite yet ...I must admit, that I feel (more and more) attracted by this kinda modelling topic and have to say: congrats, great work so far!

BTW: Any progress regarding your 1/12 mechanics???

Kind regards
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: FichtenFoo on August 21, 2011, 07:42:46 AM
Thanks guys!

Nick: If you check out Ian's blog, he's done some weird "taxi" like craft that have tires. (possibly as landing gear) So it definitely fits his world. But yeah, mostly it's all part of the fun and that tugboatish feel. I'm looking forward to doing more of these so I can have my own personal flotilla!

mad gerald: Thanks! I appreciate that. The mechanics are sitting on my shelf waiting on paint. Two of them anyway... the 3rd kneeling one needs finished. Do you think they'd be marketable enough to do a small run of ~20 sets? I'm not sure how many people do 1/12 stuff as my experience is mostly 1/20 and smaller.
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: pwranta193 on August 21, 2011, 08:33:45 AM
'Effin Beautiful execution, Herr Fichte...

I was going to ask how tight to the sketch concept you were going to run, and this answers the question - really great job of bringing the concept from a non modeller's eye to fruition... I'll bet he's stoked?

Can you throw some light on how you went about it?  I'd like to see your framework and panel process for the master (i.e., did you go with hollow hull - or is that lower pretty solid).  Also - can you give an idea of price point, yet (ball park us?).  This thing looks like a lot of fun - and a bit of a blank slate in the way that the fish sub was for finish and modification... 
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: Carlo on August 21, 2011, 08:41:13 AM
Michael -

I, for one, will buy a set of 1:12 mechanics if you cast them up.
Perhaps you could do an online SBS on painting? That would boost sales too.
Also, mention/show them on the SE (7/8ths) Forum, since many there model in 1:12 scale too.

Finally, does Ian McQue have a "backstory" posted for that wonderful wacky world he's creating?
I just love the paintings, and your models should make it even better.

Carlo

Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: FichtenFoo on August 21, 2011, 08:49:34 AM
Thanks! Yeah, Ian provided rough sketches and told me to do what I do. He actually uses Luca Z and my work as his own reference so it worked out really well.

I started with a dense insulation foam carving of the hull-shape then covered it with Bondo polyester putty. I then sanded it smooth and removed the foam form. I added the sub-deck and exterior hull plating with styrene. More putty and sanding and had a great hull shape. I added the diamond plate and other details over that. At one point I filled the hull with miscellaneous styrene scrap like sprue-bits, wads of leftover epoxy putty, airsoft balls and whatever for cheap bulk. Then I poured in some resin to solidify it. So the master is really nice and solid and heavy.

I actually have progress images of the whole process. When the kit is closer to release I'm going to put together an article on how I did the master.

The price will end up being more than the fish sub just because it'll use 3-4x the resin. I'll know more once my caster sees it. The hull's about 11 inches long, 4" wide and 2-3" deep.

Carlo: Thanks! I'll start looking into it for the figs. Ian doesn't have a backstory yet, but he's working on one.
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: mad gerald on August 21, 2011, 09:11:04 AM
Quote from: FichtenFoo on August 21, 2011, 07:42:46 AM
mad gerald: Thanks! I appreciate that. The mechanics are sitting on my shelf waiting on paint. Two of them anyway... the 3rd kneeling one needs finished. Do you think they'd be marketable enough to do a small run of ~20 sets? I'm not sure how many people do 1/12 stuff as my experience is mostly 1/20 and smaller.

... that is difficult to forecast ... I myself am dabbling with the idea of building a small ride-on Feldbahn loco in 1/12 scale ... and your mechanics would make a perfect workshop gang for a Feldbahn loco shed scene ...

Quote from: Carlo on August 21, 2011, 08:41:13 AM
I, for one, will buy a set of 1:12 mechanics if you cast them up.
Perhaps you could do an online SBS on painting? That would boost sales too.
Also, mention/show them on the SE (7/8ths) Forum, since many there model in 1:12 scale too.

... I would have suggested too (like Carlo does) to ask 7/8ths guys ... and I also think an SBS on painting would help to raise interest too ...

Methinks a sitting figure would even attract more modellers, as these ones are desperately needed as drivers ... so why not create an additional 4th guy (or modify i. e. the goofy one with a sitting "bottom section" ... ?
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: shropshire lad on August 21, 2011, 10:15:05 AM
I just realised Ian McQue is Scottish , that is even better . I had him down as a Californian type of dude .

  The best thing is that the paint job you do on it can be as rough as you like and it still wouldn't look wrong . Well , that'll be my excuse .

  I have visions of a man hanging on to a rope ladder that is dangling over the side . Don't know what he is doing , maybe a bit of welding to another craft . Or maybe sitting on a platform painting over a rusty bit on the hull . The possibilities are endless .

Are you taking reservations yet , Michael ?

Nick
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: FichtenFoo on August 21, 2011, 10:27:15 AM
Quote from: shropshire lad on August 21, 2011, 10:15:05 AM
I just realised Ian McQue is Scottish , that is even better . I had him down as a Californian type of dude .

  The best thing is that the paint job you do on it can be as rough as you like and it still wouldn't look wrong . Well , that'll be my excuse .

  I have visions of a man hanging on to a rope ladder that is dangling over the side . Don't know what he is doing , maybe a bit of welding to another craft . Or maybe sitting on a platform painting over a rusty bit on the hull . The possibilities are endless .

Are you taking reservations yet , Michael ?

Nick

I envision mine with a deck-full of sheep. No, seriously. One of Ian's rough sketches on his site has a ship with some sheep crammed on deck. It's so silly and such a "real" use of a transport vessel that it begs to be done.

No reservations yet. I try not to take reservations until I know a price. Plus I might not be able to do reservations like I've done in the past due to the store software. I might put together an "advance notice" email list and let those people know a few days ahead of the public so that they can order first then after the 2 days I make the store page public for the rest of the stock if any. Still working out the new systems and will definitely let everyone know.

(note this does not apply to the hornethopter coming in a few weeks as that's already got a reserve list)
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: pwranta193 on August 21, 2011, 10:43:42 AM
F2:

Yeah - I didn't think it would be cheap at those dimensions. Please add me to the pre-reg!  I love the sheep idea... especially if you can kit them out with some kind of wild ass paint scheme - stripes... or tropical plumage  ;D  I like the idea of this being the center of an almost "mobile" like hanging scene... a couple of runabouts, or for your version maybe a floating livestock loading ramp.  I was digging on your propulsion solutions for this one... very "plausible" looking.

Looking forward to the next thing...

I actually had some questions/comments on the figures question as well - but am going to move them over to the sticky they set up here:
http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=1401.0

Paul

 
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: eTraxx on August 21, 2011, 10:46:18 AM
Wonderful stuff. First thing that came to mind was the floating restaurant from the Fifth Element ..

re: future and end of tires. I doubt that. On the settled worlds .. sure. The infrastructure is there. On newly colonized worlds nope. Their technical base would have to be such that it can be supported at lower technical levels. Wheeled vehicles make sense there. Think about it. The Romans had shovels. We have shovels. Sure .. we have ditchers .. heck there was one just talked about .. that huge honking machine from the turn of the century. We still have shovels. When all the fancy machines break or run out of gas .. we walk over and pick up the shovel .. the pick .. the mattock.
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: FichtenFoo on August 22, 2011, 11:50:07 AM
Thanks guys. Good points eTraxx... simple tools are always going to be needed. It's going to be cool to see his other ships realized with that cool working class/sci-fi combo.
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: eTraxx on August 22, 2011, 12:51:08 PM
@FitchenFoo .. yep. I spent 12 years on the Abrams M1/M1A1 Main Battle Tank. 1500 HP Gas Turbine Engine. It would do 43mph .. at 67 tons .. and .. we carried a shovel .. and a mattock. I can guarantee you that a thousand years in the future .. if your Space Marine carries field equipment it will probably include a folding shovel.
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: shropshire lad on August 22, 2011, 02:59:20 PM
Oh , alright , Boys , you made your point , so rubber tyres will still be needed out there in Fantasyland !
I think I'd still try and think of an alternative for fenders .
  And the only reason you need a shovel and pick on a battle tank is to dig the latrine . Ha , ha !

  Nick
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: pwranta193 on August 22, 2011, 05:50:25 PM
Shovel, winches, spot lights... My favorite is his light ship - the 'Aurora'... this stuff takes me back to my misspent youth reading Metal Hurlant... Moebius and the whole mind blowing gang.  Spent last night tinkering with a one off runabout for when the Remora hits the market : ;D

I'm already looking through figures to adapt to crewmen... no sheep for me however...
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: FichtenFoo on August 22, 2011, 06:01:06 PM
There will be figures included and figure sets of Ians designs available at launch (I hope).

I want to do the Lightboat as well. It isn't the next on the list, but it's one on my shortlist of designs.
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: shropshire lad on August 23, 2011, 12:17:16 AM
Quote from: FichtenFoo on August 22, 2011, 06:01:06 PM
There will be figures included and figure sets of Ians designs available at launch (I hope).

I want to do the Lightboat as well. It isn't the next on the list, but it's one on my shortlist of designs.



  That is the picture I'm looking at the moment  and the one that really takes my fancy . Can't you bump it up the list ? !

There is one figure that I reckon would be eminently suitable to represent either the captain or first mate , and I spent ages trying to find a picture of it . It is a railway worker with a beard , and I think Marc has one , but I can't for the life of me remember who makes it. I'll just have to keep looking ,

   Nick
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: marc_reusser on August 23, 2011, 01:18:51 AM
QuoteIt is a railway worker with a beard , and I think Marc has one , but I can't for the life of me remember who makes it. I'll just have to keep looking ,

It's from one of the Verlinden "Railway Workers" sets (there are three sets of two workers)  The one you are thinking of, actually comes with a hand/arm holding a smoking pipe. (very captain like)

M
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: mad gerald on August 23, 2011, 03:47:31 AM
Sorry Michael, don't want to hijack your thread, but this seems the right time and place to ask the audience a question regarding a diorama I've seen (or linked to) here somewhere , IIRC ... it shows a kinda ship (with tank parts?) and a crew, which seems to consist of recruited (former) german WWII soldiers (?) and shows a very complex and well modelled submarine scenery too, with a shark attack (?) and a kinda treasure hunt (?) ...

I'd like to have a look at it again for comparison regarding a diorama with a tugboat-ish object without water (like this is going to be) and another diorama with water (like the one I'm searchin' for) ...

BTW: What is the english term for modelling this kinda scenes (like i. e. the Ian McQue Concept Designs) ... is it just "sci-fi", "post-civilization" ... or else (in German it would be "End-Zeit") ... ?

Kind regards
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: artizen on August 23, 2011, 05:00:40 AM
Do you mean this layout?

http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=2849&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=150
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: mad gerald on August 23, 2011, 05:12:56 AM
Quote from: artizen on August 23, 2011, 05:00:40 AM
Do you mean this layout?
http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=2849&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=150

... thanks for your help  :), but in the layout/diorama I'm looking for is definitely no railway involved ...
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: mad gerald on August 23, 2011, 05:24:46 AM
... OK, I'got/remembered it ...  8) ... the layout's name seem to be Herr Hauptmann's champagne, was mentioned here (http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=1388.0) before, but the pictures on that website linked to seem to be deleted, so this was the only one I could find yet: http://bruce-domain.blogspot.com/2010/09/awesome-build-review-herr-hauptmans.html (http://bruce-domain.blogspot.com/2010/09/awesome-build-review-herr-hauptmans.html) ... (and I thought it would have had more "sci-fi" components in it ...)
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: pwranta193 on August 23, 2011, 10:16:38 AM
I've seen this in person at the Euro-Militaire show in Folkstone, England.  This bad boy was cast as a solid piece - so everything you see sub-surface is resin.  While weighing a ton, it keeps things from breaking loose during transit  ;D  Really impressive scope of work, if a little fanciful in places.

Rhodes is, IIRC, LA based, though British born and raised.  Used to be quite active - but haven't seen much in the last year or so... you can find a number of his older postings on Missing-Lynx.
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: shropshire lad on August 23, 2011, 01:04:37 PM
Quote from: marc_reusser on August 23, 2011, 01:18:51 AM
QuoteIt is a railway worker with a beard , and I think Marc has one , but I can't for the life of me remember who makes it. I'll just have to keep looking ,

It's from one of the Verlinden "Railway Workers" sets (there are three sets of two workers)  The one you are thinking of, actually comes with a hand/arm holding a smoking pipe. (very captain like)

M

Marc ,

   This is the fella I was thinking of , however , I have been unable to find any reference to him and the other railway workers on the Verlinden website . Are they still being produced ? Or am I looking in the wrong place?


   Nick
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: marc_reusser on August 24, 2011, 03:38:08 PM
Nick,

Yes that is the fellow of which I speak. They are no longer boxed...but I am pretty sure he and the other fellows were Verlinden (but maybe I am confused....according to my wife a common condition). I almost never buy Verlinden stuff...and never from them, so can't say....I picked them up at various LHS'.
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: Chuck Doan on August 26, 2011, 10:02:38 AM
As this is a floating-in air-boat, how will this be displayed on the shelf?
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: FichtenFoo on August 26, 2011, 10:23:56 AM
Quote from: Chuck Doan on August 26, 2011, 10:02:38 AM
As this is a floating-in air-boat, how will this be displayed on the shelf?

Probably similar to this I did with clear rod. The base underneath could be anything really... top of a building, grassy hill, etc...

http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/tag/tantive-iv/
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffichtenfoo.net%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F03%2FFichtenFoo-TantiveIV-02.jpg&hash=5f7e253cf654194bdd157dd1d484b25b7487f876)
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: mad gerald on August 26, 2011, 10:24:21 AM
... desperately lurking around for some progress/update ...  8)
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: Chuck Doan on August 26, 2011, 10:39:46 AM
Ahh, OK. Or I guess strings from the ceiling as was mentioned. That would bring back some memories.
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: shropshire lad on August 26, 2011, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: Chuck Doan on August 26, 2011, 10:39:46 AM
Ahh, OK. Or I guess strings from the ceiling as was mentioned. That would bring back some memories.

  Strings ,or something stronger , from the ceiling is my prefered option . Mainly because all my shelves are full and there is lots of free space in all my rooms above the 6 foot level . Being a shortarse at 5'9" I am unlikely to bang my head on any . Anyone taller will be banned .

   Anyway , they will look much better in their natural environment ...floating in the air .

  Nick
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: Alan Rees on August 27, 2011, 10:05:06 AM
Quote from: shropshire lad on August 26, 2011, 01:08:00 PM
Anyone taller will be banned .

Thanks   :(
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: shropshire lad on August 27, 2011, 11:11:46 AM
Quote from: Alan Rees on August 27, 2011, 10:05:06 AM
Quote from: shropshire lad on August 26, 2011, 01:08:00 PM
Anyone taller will be banned .

Thanks   :(

  You're welcome .

Me'n'theMissus are Switzerland bound on the 7th . Just to give you fair warning to be out of the country then .

    Nick
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: jacq01 on August 27, 2011, 11:14:13 AM

   Nick,

    for the next exhibition I''l bring a stool with me for you.  You'll have than the same size as Alan and me  :D ;D

   Jacq
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: Alan Rees on September 06, 2011, 04:06:51 AM
Quote from: shropshire lad on August 27, 2011, 11:11:46 AM


Me'n'theMissus are Switzerland bound on the 7th . Just to give you fair warning to be out of the country then .

    Nick

It seems like I'll be looking for temporary accomodation anywhere outside Switzerland for a week or so. Can anyone offer anything ?
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: shropshire lad on September 06, 2011, 06:26:42 AM
Quote from: Alan Rees on September 06, 2011, 04:06:51 AM
Quote from: shropshire lad on August 27, 2011, 11:11:46 AM


Me'n'theMissus are Switzerland bound on the 7th . Just to give you fair warning to be out of the country then .

    Nick

It seems like I'll be looking for temporary accomodation anywhere outside Switzerland for a week or so. Can anyone offer anything ?



Well , you know where the one place we won't be . My house . If you do go there can you do the animals for us ? The horses will be sorted and the dog's in kennels , so you only need to take the snakes for a walk once a day and feed the cats .

  Nick
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: pwranta193 on September 11, 2011, 10:34:23 AM
Pacing... waiting... checking again...
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: FichtenFoo on September 11, 2011, 10:39:05 AM
The Remora went with my caster last week. Woo! We're still looking at another month or two before the official release though. The casts will take a while, plus the figures are not yet sculpted. Watch the Industria Mechanika facebook page for up to date news.

http://www.facebook.com/IndustriaMechanika
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: pwranta193 on September 11, 2011, 11:42:11 AM
Excellent!  This thing inspired me to dive back into the bench between real work recently.  I'm actually half way through a one off small craft (boat? ship?) to go with a Remora build... cobbled together out of old Sdkfz7 bits and hull made from the plastic case of a women's razor  ;D ;D ;D

I've been spending way to much time thinking about how to wire and illuminate a Light Ship, were one to ever hit the market :)

Great stuff!
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: FichtenFoo on September 11, 2011, 11:47:48 AM
If we were to do a lightship, and I REALLY want to do one too, I was contacted by Lightbenders who do aftermarket lighting kits for sci-fi subjects. They want to do sets for imech stuff. That'd make it way easier!
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: FichtenFoo on October 11, 2011, 01:01:03 PM
Preorder is happening now. We had a few hiccups when the server got hosed when everyone started hitting it at once, but all's well now. Get them while they last!

http://industriamechanika.com/blog/shop-industria-mechanika/ian-mcques-remora-preorder/
Title: Re: The Remora
Post by: marc_reusser on October 11, 2011, 01:12:32 PM
Awesome. Thanks.

M