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Title: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on May 30, 2011, 11:58:00 AM
Haven't posted any work shots in a while, been busy with motorcycle work, so here are a few preliminary renderings, teaser shots if you will, of work in progress on a purposefully unnamed project. The materials selected are for rendering purposes only to differentiate the various components and better illustrate the contours and do not represent the actual materials of the prototype.

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Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: artizen on May 30, 2011, 04:00:59 PM
Methinks loco con rods and wheels?
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: Bill Sartore on May 31, 2011, 08:19:33 AM
Virtual Fujichrome Provia sheet film?
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: artizen on May 31, 2011, 02:11:00 PM
Maybe Mr Rayner used to have a Sinar or some such wonderfully cool high tech camera - now with a digital back? I used to have a Sinar P Expert 5x4 back in the day. Thank goodness for progress. Now my cameras fit in my pocket instead of breaking my back!

With only two replies, we are obviously going to have to wait a while longer for any more hints?
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on May 31, 2011, 08:26:51 PM
Sorry Ian... this piece has nothing whatsoever to do with steam locomotives. Yes you will have to wait for some more hints... I'll post some more detail shots over the next few weeks as the project progresses. Will be interesting to see if anyone will be able to guess what it is.

I did have the great pleasure of working with a Sinar P 4x5 many years ago... fabulous piece of equipment. Sure would be nice to have that equipment now. I also owned a Hassy at the time and spent one memorable summer traveling about with both the Sinar and the Hassy taking architectural photographs. Spent most of my time lugging heavy equipment about but it was still a lot of fun. I also owned an older 5x7 view camera and had access to an 11x14 portrait view camera with which I started a series of B/W portrait photographs of friends and visiting photographers at the International Museum of Photography in Rochester, NY back in the 1970s. Last one I shot was of J.H. Lartigue. There was no shutter... just the lens cap. To take the photo I had to remove and replace the lens cap and it took some experimenting with a grey scale card in the makeshift studio to determine the correct exposure time. It was long... The contact prints from those negatives were absolutely luscious. The bellows developed too serious a leak to continue use, so that effectively ended the project. It was difficult to get the film as well but fortunately I had contacts at Eastman Kodak who were able to supply me a small quantity of sheets from time to time.

Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: finescalerr on June 01, 2011, 01:19:10 AM
Something about the parts' appearance suggests they might be for a motorcycle. I hope I don't end up looking like a fool by taking an early, uneducated guess based on microcosmic renderings. -- Russ
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on June 04, 2011, 01:11:26 PM
Never a fool Russ but no, it's not a motorcycle...

Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on June 04, 2011, 06:33:16 PM
Here are a couple of more teaser shots of work completed today...

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Froughboy.net%2Fimgs%2FCHWorkInProgress%2FWorkInProgress5.jpg&hash=6081772629448802e26d61d6a0bde8b21b8958d1)

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Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: Ray Dunakin on June 04, 2011, 09:54:44 PM
Whatever it is, the renderings are beautiful.
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on June 05, 2011, 09:09:42 PM
Thanks Craig & Ray... Another part completed today plus another view that should give a decent clue... The colour is not necessarily prototypical but is meant to indicate the separate components.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Froughboy.net%2Fimgs%2FCHWorkInProgress%2FWorkInProgress8.jpg&hash=f2bfe73cfcd9602dfe91c7f235472cb2af021d14)

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Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: marc_reusser on June 06, 2011, 02:10:05 AM
WTF!?.....a Hibachi!?  ;) ;D


Beautiful renderings nonetheless.


Marc
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: eTraxx on June 06, 2011, 03:59:38 AM
How about an Espresso machine? :D
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: mad gerald on June 06, 2011, 04:05:31 AM
... or may be a BBQ or a raclette ...  ???  ::)
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: artizen on June 06, 2011, 06:10:17 AM
A diesel throttle?
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: lab-dad on June 06, 2011, 08:16:49 AM
Oh, now I see!
Simple;
A quadrilateral indexing shift solenoid for a 1927 Lake Thorogood speed throttle on a Buick straight eight engine.
Why didnt I see it earlier ???
-Marty
What do i win?
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: marc_reusser on June 06, 2011, 12:22:43 PM
Quote from: mad gerald on June 06, 2011, 04:05:31 AM
... or may be a BBQ or a raclette ...  ???  ::)


MMMM....raclette....I could use some of that right now.


Marc
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on June 06, 2011, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: lab-dad on June 06, 2011, 08:16:49 AM
Oh, now I see!
Simple;
A quadrilateral indexing shift solenoid for a 1927 Lake Thorogood speed throttle on a Buick straight eight engine.
Why didnt I see it earlier ???
-Marty
What do i win?

Ohhh Marty... so close, but nah! And as for you espresso drinking barbequers... not even close, though, with adaptive reuse it is conceivable that it could be used for either purpose...  ;)

Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on June 06, 2011, 07:47:15 PM
Quote from: Mobilgas on June 06, 2011, 02:44:15 PM
I think i know what it is....  but im not saying  ;D

When you figure it out Craig, let me know. I'm getting confused now...  :)

Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: finescalerr on June 07, 2011, 01:11:29 AM
Now it looks more like a throttle or whatever those lever gadgets are in steam locos. But I probably won't recognize it with certaintly unless it wears a thong bikini. -- Russ
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: artizen on June 07, 2011, 04:26:53 AM
I didn't think of the thongs but I hope it makes a damn good cappuccino when it's finished!!!

I still think it has whispers of a diesel loco cab control.
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: eTraxx on June 07, 2011, 05:52:31 AM
Those throng bikini wearers also have a throttle .. but doesn't look like that ....
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: TRAINS1941 on June 07, 2011, 06:17:56 AM
If you don't talk, will put you through the thing-a-ma-bob.  And you'll be left without a doo-hickey!!!!!

Jerry
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: james_coldicott on June 08, 2011, 12:39:02 AM
Tired of standing in 'the corner' Paul is working on a new punishment device...

These are the cooling rod controls that manage the reactor that powers 'Pauls Patented Orgasmatron'

No? Okay I'm off to the corner again then!

James
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on June 08, 2011, 07:58:32 AM
Quote from: james_coldicott on June 08, 2011, 12:39:02 AM
Tired of standing in 'the corner'...
James

I"m afraid I must correct you there James. I no longer stand in the corner. Being a permanent resident of that locale I installed a comfy chair and drinks trolley, all protected by velvet ropes and various dire-warning signs. Unfortunately, my negotiations to date with Russ have failed in securing a long-term loan of one of his thong-clad cuties to serve the drinks and other delights. In what can only be considered mean-spirited gestures, he regularly parades them past in a teasing and taunting manner.

Returning to the object of the discussion, it's use could be considered a form of punishment, especially these days. Certainly every time we use one we feel we've been taken advantage of.

Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: chester on June 08, 2011, 10:30:51 AM
Quote from: W. P. Rayner on June 08, 2011, 07:58:32 AM


Returning to the object of the discussion, it's use could be considered a form of punishment, especially these days. Certainly every time we use one we feel we've been taken advantage of.

Paul

What? It has something to do with the dollar?
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: marc_reusser on June 08, 2011, 12:25:04 PM
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.earthlink.net%2F%7Erbadesign%2FPicard_WTF.jpg&hash=2a6152dea6a3eed4521500e15c5a11c4bcb71675) 


M  ;D
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: Chuck Doan on June 08, 2011, 12:36:58 PM
Isn't he supposed to say "merde"?
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: Barney on June 08, 2011, 02:24:47 PM
No idea what it is but I can see the joins in the Lego Blocks.
Barney
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on June 12, 2011, 06:52:23 PM
Here are a couple of partial preliminary renderings of work completed on the mystery project this weekend... a couple of more clues. I believe the second image will give it away...

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Paul

Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: marc_reusser on June 12, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
Dibbs on "Gas Pump"


(or artificial lung from the 40's)



Marc
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: Malachi Constant on June 12, 2011, 07:51:33 PM
Super, high-quality popcorn popper ... or my name isn't Orville Reddenbacher.
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: finescalerr on June 13, 2011, 01:34:53 AM
Nonsense, you guys. It's the flying saucer from Close Encounters! -- ssuR
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on June 13, 2011, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: marc_reusser on June 12, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
Dibbs on "Gas Pump"
Marc

Kudos to Marc... though the idea of it being an iron lung is entertaining. As far as Russ' suggestion of the Close Encounters spaceship, it must have been from the unreleased steampunk prequel...

At any rate, here it is all in one shot, at least as far as the project has progressed to date. There remains the top cap to complete along with the piping in the glass cylinder and the remainder of the valve pieces on the view-port assembly where the filler hose attaches. It is a Correct Measure Gas Pump from the late 1920s, a project I'm doing for Mobilgas (Craig) here on the forum.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Froughboy.net%2Fimgs%2FCHWorkInProgress%2FCorrectMeasurePumpOverall.jpg&hash=f184109533cc5a0fd5147885e42ba6da9f2b824d)

Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: finescalerr on June 14, 2011, 12:43:02 AM
Most very way cool. -- Russ
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: Chuck Doan on June 14, 2011, 07:28:02 AM
I agree!
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on June 14, 2011, 10:08:07 PM
Thanks Craig, Chuck & Russ... I appreciate the good words. It's been a very interesting project so far. I'm going to tackle the distinctive "organ pipes" next. Thanks for posting the prototype photos Craig... these are a couple of the photos I've been using as reference shots to extrapolate the dimensions for the drawings. Interestingly enough the most problematic part to draw so far has been the side hand lever that operates the manual pump. At first glance it seems very simple, but it's tapered on all four sides, has raised edges and the openings are all tapered as well to match the profile. Took several attempts to get that right. Basically the way the thing works is, you fill the glass reservoir with 10 gallons of fuel pumping by hand with the vertical side lever, select the amount of fuel needed (from 1 - 10 gallons) using the horizontal lever in the tapered section setting it into the corresponding notch, then release the desired amount of gas to the delivery hose with a valve (yet to be drawn) outbound of the rectangular sight-glass on the side just below the reservoir. There's an "organ pipe" for each volume 1 through 10. If you needed 3 gallons, by setting the lever in the 3 gallon position, the 3 gallon pipe would line up with the distribution outlet and allow the top 3 gallons of fuel to flow down the "organ pipe." Fuel below that level would remain in the reservoir. A check valve prevents the pump from operating when the valve to the delivery hose is open, so you can't pump any more gas than what the glass reservoir will hold or continue to pump while the delivery valve is open. Fortunately I was able to find the original patent for the pump which helped a great deal in determining how the thing worked and went together.

Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on July 13, 2011, 02:21:21 PM
Yes. Here are the two latest renderings from Keyshot: the first of the overall pump with the pipe organ in place, the second a detail shot of the pipe organ and glass fuel cylinder. Next step is to redraw the fuel level assemblies. The first ones drawn in Cobalt were flawed in some way as they would not import into either Inventor or Solidworks, so time to redraw them.

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Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: finescalerr on July 14, 2011, 01:45:49 AM
Heck with the model. Keep cranking out 3D drawings. Satisfactory. -- Russ
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: finescalerr on July 14, 2011, 01:31:34 PM
Now, now, Craig! You actually want me to be politically correct on my own forum? Go stand in the corner! -- ssuR
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: michael mott on August 05, 2011, 09:24:42 AM
I am slowly working my way through a lot of threads and posts.

Paul this drawing is really sharp, make me wish I knew how to do this 3D stuff, you make it look easy but what little experience I have had with 3D drawing programs, I can see that you have been doing this stuff for quite some time. I look forward to seeing the finished drawing.

Michael
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on August 07, 2011, 11:19:57 AM
Thanks Michael. Yes, I have been doing this for a while now, but am constantly learning new and better techniques with the software. With my recent switch to new 3D CAD software and a PC I still have a lot to learn, but am slowly making progress. I just finished reworking this drawing in Inventor adding all the required parametric constraints to be able to fully utilize the editing and production capabilities of the software. Now that the drawing files are properly configured it's time to draw the remaining parts.

Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on August 14, 2011, 01:45:20 PM
Here are a couple of new renderings, slightly different views with less dramatic lighting generated from the Inventor revised drawings and rendered in Keyshot.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roughboy.net%2Fimgs%2FCorrectMeasurePumpRevised.jpg&hash=e7edae921cef7c9e1b44a9a99bacbb32afe74c21)

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roughboy.net%2Fimgs%2FCorrectMeasurePumpReservoirRevised.jpg&hash=7a94a15d475a36d38954c7b759c43785c2c41916)

Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: finescalerr on August 15, 2011, 01:07:50 AM
Paul, it's a little after 1 a.m. PDT and your server is being very selfish about sharing your photos. Maybe you should upload them here directly from your hard drive. -- Russ
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: marc_reusser on August 16, 2011, 02:27:13 AM
It's 2:15 am pdt, and they look just fine to me.


M
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on August 16, 2011, 09:58:03 PM
I received a message from my hosting company and they were experiencing "network connectivity" problems evidently on a selection of their servers, but all is fixed and back to normal.

Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: finescalerr on August 17, 2011, 12:55:15 AM
Yes, and I now can appreciate the exquisite beauty of the renderings. -- Russ
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on October 16, 2011, 01:48:06 PM
A little more work on this project... I finally finished the fuel level indicators which, for such a small part, were actually fairly difficult to draw. I had drawn them originally in Cobalt, but there was some sort of technical/coding issue with that file and neither Inventor nor Solidworks would interpret the original drawing. So I had to draw them from scratch again. At any rate, here are a couple of renderings showing the fuel level indicators in place.

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(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roughboy.net%2Fimgs%2FCorrectMeasurePumpOrganDetail.jpg&hash=47a9128bccff60840aec16bc8f5e923d74c4b917)

Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: artizen on October 16, 2011, 02:45:50 PM
If this gets built in gold and brushed titanium as depicted in the renderings, it would be a collectible! Whatever, it is a wonderful work of art and I hope to see this and all your other renderings come to life as finished items ... please!
Title: Re: Work in progress... Correct Measure Pump
Post by: W.P. Rayner on October 23, 2011, 08:18:53 PM
Thanks Ian... I think I'll pass on the gold and titanium though it could be the latest decor accessory from Tiffany... I'll reserve those materials just for these renderings. Epoxy resin, brass tubing and styrene will be a touch more affordable.

Here are the latest two renderings with today's progress. Added the return tube within the fuel reservoir which completes the components within the reservoir and modelled the lower portion of the top to the fuel reservoir. Light fixture and Mobil globe will complete the top.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roughboy.net%2Fimgs%2FCorrectMeasurePumpwDome.jpg&hash=365b7cbd34489be21a1aabe5f68f89d1add75318)

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roughboy.net%2Fimgs%2FCorrectMeasurePumpDomeDetail.jpg&hash=98e20d03651e7ad74b2f7730897d8edbb654ae85)

Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: finescalerr on October 24, 2011, 01:04:47 AM
Satisfactory. -- Russ
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: pwranta193 on October 24, 2011, 07:11:41 AM
Paul,

I'm completely impressed with your work on this... your work on the actual design is cool enough, but your bump up on the finish and presentation is always impressive.  The rare metals finished version looks less like Tiffany's to me than the fuel pump outside of the dining hall at Valhalla (see recent Thor movie). As I've said before, I wish I'd stumbled into the world of CAD a decade or so back, as it feels like one of those things that I'd always be behind the power curve in trying to learn  ::)

An operational question... this being another of those functional items that I had little or no knowledge of before wandering into Russ' canyons of the obscure and arcane - what is the reason behind having multiple drain (outflow?) tubes within the tank?

Again - great finish...

Pablo sends
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: Chuck Doan on October 24, 2011, 11:55:03 AM
It allowed the attendant to select the exact amount of gas to dispense instead of using the subjective gallon markers.
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: W.P. Rayner on October 25, 2011, 08:27:12 PM
Thanks Paul. Chuck is absolutely correct. The capacity of this pump was ten gallons. Fuel could be dispensed in accurate or "Correct Measure" one-gallon increments from one to ten depending on the needs of the purchaser. Each tube represents one of the gallon increments, that's why there are so many tubes. Once the reservoir was filled, it was drained down to the desired level. I believe two of the reasons why the pumps were so short-lived were the relative complexity of the mechanism and their limited capacity.

Paul
Title: Re: Work in progress...
Post by: pwranta193 on October 27, 2011, 03:03:19 PM
Interesting... odd, but I guess with nascent tech, you'll have the ones that don't survive :)  I can see the designer thinking "who is ever going to need more than ten gallons".

Thank you gents for the explanation.