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Title: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: marc_reusser on November 04, 2010, 01:59:09 AM
Very beautiful and evocative modeling.

The site is a bit cumbersome.....but in this structures section, click on "slideshow" then use the arrow to advance through the pages....in each page there are small thumbnail images that you can click on, and a window will open with a larger image.....I found it well worth the effort...the stuff is beautiful..and even more amazing when you consider the scale....1/80 on those that I have looked at so far.

http://www.ichiyoh-haga.com/en/structure/ (http://www.ichiyoh-haga.com/en/structure/)


Marc
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: jacq01 on November 04, 2010, 02:48:46 AM

   Beautiful

   he has been an inspiration and one of my all time favorites since I discovered his work some years ago.

    Jacq
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: Gordon Ferguson on November 04, 2010, 03:21:40 AM
Marc, I have admired his work for a while - suggest you have a look through the "Works" section Chuck will like /love "Shoutarou Ishinomori's Desk  as always in superb modelling its the small points that make in this case I love the scratch marks on the floor from the chair casters 
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: Hector Bell on November 04, 2010, 04:44:38 AM
Not all the work is 1/80th scale, though that is very nice, a kind of Japanese Roye England.
The rest is mainly 1/12th scale which, let's face it is huge and as far as interiors go is very well populated by some stunningly good model makers.
Alas the magazine which used to deal with "Home Miniaturists" has apparently gone out of business or underground.
Working locks in drawers, dovetailed joints, miniature marquetry.  Just gotta look for it.

Martin
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: Don Railton on November 04, 2010, 07:35:52 AM
I met Ichiyoh at the miniature show in Chicago a couple of years ago.  My purpose in making the trip was to see his work live as I had admired his creations from his website. He is one of my favorite miniature artists.

Attached is his stationary store in 1:12.

Don 

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ichiyoh-haga.com%2Fimg%2Fitoya%2Flarge%2Fd2.jpg&hash=9053d1a0f0f1601e8117b6e7cac341dba7823abb)
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: jacq01 on November 04, 2010, 08:21:59 AM

   Martin,

   just enjoy it, instead of trying to catagorise it.  This is a japanese equivalent of Chuck......................


   Jacq
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: jim s-w on November 04, 2010, 08:54:43 AM
Gorgeous!

Thanks for posting this

Jim
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: trisonic on November 04, 2010, 09:12:49 AM
That really is a work of art.

Best, Pete.
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: Hector Bell on November 04, 2010, 09:56:31 AM
I can enjoy it, without falling all over it.  I don't think it's a patch on Chuck's work, big-scale wise.
There are plenty as good and better around than what I saw on much of his website.  Sorry, but if you're going to absolutely rave about someone's work, I expect it to be raveworthy, like Chuck's, Paul's, Marc's.  I just don't think it is that good , considering the scale.
It's bloody excellent, but not as good as Chuck's or some tiny scale stuff I've seen.  As good, but no better, which is not what everybody's posts were suggesting.

Martin
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: jacq01 on November 04, 2010, 10:48:42 AM
  That is your opinion.........let others have theirs without denigrating things that are not to your liking.....
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: Ray Dunakin on November 04, 2010, 11:49:02 AM
Very evocative stuff... sort of "elegance in decay".

Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: Hector Bell on November 04, 2010, 12:07:08 PM
Hey, wait a minute!  I'm as entitled to my opinion as any of you lot!  How come the establishment on here can say what they want, but I pipe up and you all jump on me?

Answer me that.  I thought this forum was not all backslapping adoration.  I thought that was what made it special.  Well there was more than enough of that on here for this Japanese guy who I never heard of.  I looked at his site and I wasn't exactly blown away.  Am I not entitled to say so?  Y'know, just to balance all the hero worship?

I tell you what, forget it.
I can't be arsed with it all any more.

Time to find another interest, I think.  Preferably one with no internet presence.  The quickest way to f*** your hobby.

Martin

Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: gnichols on November 04, 2010, 12:46:00 PM
Quote from: Hector Bell on November 04, 2010, 09:56:31 AM
I can enjoy it, without falling all over it.  I don't think it's a patch on Chuck's work, big-scale wise.
There are plenty as good and better around than what I saw on much of his website.  Sorry, but if you're going to absolutely rave about someone's work, I expect it to be raveworthy, like Chuck's, Paul's, Marc's.  I just don't think it is that good , considering the scale.
It's bloody excellent, but not as good as Chuck's or some tiny scale stuff I've seen.  As good, but no better, which is not what everybody's posts were suggesting.

Martin

Mr Bell, or Hector, or Martin, or whomever you are.  Is there any way you can refrain from being the self-annointed critic of all things modeling?  Nobody asked for your ratings or reviews, or rankings.  When I see a model I like, I often feel the need for a little hand clapping or praise directed at the builder.  Helps the team spirit.  But you seem to feel the need to keep taking the fun out of it, ranking, nitpicking, name dropping, etc.  WTFO?  Start your own critical review and see who subscribes to it.    Gary

Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: finescalerr on November 04, 2010, 01:01:06 PM
Martin, you are overstepping the bounds of gentlemanly behavior we adhere to on this site. Opinions are one thing but sounding off like a Donald Duck tantrum is something else. Each of us has his opinion and sometimes it is advisable to hold your tongue if you disagree. Similarly, most of us find it unnecessary to offer a personal opinion about every subject. I think that is why some of the guys are annoyed with you.

My own opinion is that Ichiyoh is a superb modeler and that it is unnecessary to compare him to Chuck or anybody else.

Finally, since we all admire Chuck's work so much, we could learn a lesson from his behavior, too: He offers an opinion from time to time (but not frequently), usually positive in nature, and leads by example rather than by words.

Finally, we all should remember my favorite motto: It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Russ
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: marc_reusser on November 04, 2010, 03:22:59 PM
I guess I will say I defend Martins right to his opinion, as well as being able to post it...I don't have to read it or agree with it if I dont want to. Yes, it can sometimes be a downer or grating...but then I probably often can be so also.

What does rather bother me about his comments is, that for instance in the paper thread and the Clarveux thread, he has this extreme bent toward these British modelers that he names and mentions.....I have looked through the internet to see some of the works by these supposed titans of modeling, and have for the most part been very underwhelmed by their work......so, I find it hard get a grasp of where his comments and comparisons are coming from.... because if these are his baselines for comparison, I must be missing something.

...aside from that I think he is a fountain of knowledge and information....but I think that between his natural personality, and the lack of personaity that the internet and typed comments can create.....there is a diconnect or amplification.....and his comments may often come across gruff, strong, wrong, or annoying.


Marc
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: RoughboyModelworks on November 04, 2010, 08:05:34 PM
That's some beautiful work Marc, most impressive... thanks for posting the link. I'm particularly taken with the consistent emotional feel throughout the miniatures. They are strong in the photos, I expect when seen in person they really draw you in...

Paul
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: jim s-w on November 05, 2010, 05:37:15 AM
Speaking personally I stand by my thoughts that this stuff is gorgeous.

I know there are people here who are into the competitions and that's great if it makes them happy but I dont compare one modellers work with the next guy.  It might not be as good as chuck but I have to be honest and say I dont really care.  Chucks stuff is fabulous too as are so many projects on here.  If one is better than the other then so be it but to me its all great modelling and I appreciate the time and effort people put into posting their stuff.

Keep it fun people!

Thanks

Jim
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: Ray Dunakin on November 05, 2010, 12:57:28 PM
Some thoughts...

What makes Ichiyoh's small scale models stand out is not that they are perfect miniatures, but that they so beautifully capture the sense of time and place. There is an emotional element to them that moves people. This is where craft crosses over into art, IMHO.

His models are not technically perfect but they are very, very good. (I also wouldn't judge a small scale model by the same standards as a 1/24th scale model -- to do so is unrealistic.) But a miniature which is technically a perfect reproduction yet lacks "soul" would be less appealing.


It's true this forum isn't all "back-slapping adoration", but there's a difference between offering constructive criticism and just saying, in essence, "That's lame". Also, there are only a tiny handful of modelers who currently produce work with both a high degree of perfection and emotional impact. Does that mean nothing else is worthy of praise? I don't think so.








Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: Mobilgas on November 06, 2010, 05:35:08 PM
I really like Ichiyoh Haga modeling, i enjoyed his Web site and his models :)   Craig H
Title: Re: Beautiful work by Japanese Modeler Ichiyoh Haga
Post by: Junior on November 08, 2010, 06:01:58 AM
Hey Ray,

I´m in total agreement with you. His small scale work is very, very good. If they are technically perfect or not is impossible to tell under the circumstances these pictures were taken. First of all they are not the best focused pictures I have seen but I believe here he wants to create a special atmosphere - kind of spooky in my opinion - very beautiful.
To compare 1/80 scale work with let´s say anything larger than 1/48 is in my opinion out of the question. Who would be able to create a gas pump like Chucks´ in 1/80 scale? Impossible! ??? If his large scale work is the best I have seen? Don´t know and it doesn´t matter to me it´s just terrific and again here he is able to create some spectacular enviroments.

Marc, thanks for posting this link.

Anders ;D