I had to share this....I just love this upcoming kit (already emailed a reservation for one):
"FichtenFoo's Fantastical Fish-Shaped Submersible"
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It screams James West and Arti Gordon! ....I can see the episode now "The Night Of The Steel Fish" (or in the show parlance TNOTSF.)
More info and images of the actual model test shots (as well as the design and shaping process of the original)can be seen here:
http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/tag/fantastical-fish-shaped-submersible/ (http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/tag/fantastical-fish-shaped-submersible/)
For the RR guys it would be perfect along any pier (or London dockside) on a late 1800's or early 1900's. ;D
Marc
I love it... a steam punk fish submarine. Haven't bought a kit of anything in years but I emailed my reservation for this one too...
Paul
What gauge is it? -- ssuR
So a 1/35th figure would fit in the hatch? I was picturing the CS Hunley in its out of the water scenes.
Or sitting abandoned in a shed or out back in the weeds...
Very neat.
Uh, I asked the GAUGE, not the scale. It was supposed to be amusing. Guess not. -- Russ
That will go perfectly with my SMOG:1888 (http://www.smartmaxstore.com/smog-en.htm) figures.
Quote from: finescalerr on August 25, 2010, 12:33:03 PM
Uh, I asked the GAUGE, not the scale. It was supposed to be amusing. Guess not. -- Russ
Dang. Obviously .. a Freduian slip or parapraxis.
I think some similar mechanical piranhas were supposed to show up in a Barbarella sequel that never materialized!
Meanwhile, I imagine that you've seen this steampunk / submarine / pirate layout on the Gnatterbox ... if not, suspect you'll find it at least somewhat amusing:
http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=2849
Cheers,
Dallas
Quote from: finescalerr on August 25, 2010, 12:33:03 PM
It was supposed to be amusing. Guess not. -- Russ
No worries Russ... you're always amusing... ;D
Paul
Too cool...checked out Michaels blog today and he has posted a pic of the proof of the PE set for the sub.
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M
Beautiful both in the detail and the styling ... look forward to seeing the various builds on this one!
Cheers,
Dallas
How did I miss this thread!? :D Thanks guys, glad you like it!
Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't see this thread Michael.... your ears should be burning. ;D Really looking forward to the kit. The etchings look first rate...
Paul
I think it's information overload. I've been too busy checking out the galleries and other models, dios, etc... ;D So much great stuff to pour through and learn from. I'm hoping the etch arrives today, but it should be here by tomorrow/monday at the latest. Can't wait to see it.
Speak of the devil... PE came and looks awesome!
Marc ,
Are you going to wait until the rest of us get our kits before starting or are you going to dive ( no pun intended but it came out all the same) straight in ? I am number 28 of the second run so don't expect to get mine any time soon . I will be paying close attention to how you tackle this project as it is somewhat out of my comfort zone , so I need to learn new stuff .
Nick
Nick,
Despite the urge to dive in, I think I am going to leave this build on the hook for a bit.....it's so cool, and I have a couple of wild ideas for it......such as a small dio with a "sinister" feel, along a London style waterfront with the sub sitting at waterline, a small rail-crane lowering a torpedo to a fellow standing next to it in a row-boat while some Jack the Ripper type supervises....sort of a steam-punk meets Tim Burton type of scene..... but as I only ordered one kit I don't want to rush in and build something I may change my mind on.....another idea is to build it like a "specimen"....sort of old and brittle looking, and then put it on a support and base under a glass display dome......the same way fish fossils or remnants are often displayed...but in this case it would be the a submersible fossile from a race of long extinct lilliputians.
I don't believe for a minute that it's outside your comfort zone.....you just need to let your mind wander, and supend all disbelief.
M
Exactly, it's not "real" so one could totally have fun with it. That's what I love about sci-fi modeling, especially non-movie/cannon stuff like this. Just about anything goes. Paint it like a real fish, copper and brass (like me), camo, orca, steam engine black and red, etc...
For my build I plan to suspend mine in an underwater diorama using the bowsprit of a sunken tall ship (pirate maybe, with a cool mermaid or dragon carving) as the support rod keeping it "afloat" so from most angles it'll look suspended in the water. That'll be fun for me because I'll get to create things and effects we generally don't model. Will have to do some research on sunken ships so I can get the rotting crust-covered wood looking good.
Marc --
The diorama idea you've described sounds a bit ambitious ... but really damn cool!
Cheers,
Dallas
I haven't given a lot of thought yet as to what I'm going to do with mine, though I have been thinking somewhat along the lines of Marc's second idea... recently discovered historic relic under a glass dome with an engraved brass plaque attributing it to a heretofore secret project of Edward VII while he was Prince of Wales (all puns intended).
Paul
Paul, did you get my last couple of emails regarding the fish sub? I just want to make sure that they're getting through and not ending up in a spam filter. Email me back and let me know. Thanks!
Came across these pictures today on a German website and got me thinking that the sub would fit in nicely into something similar . I then thought that it could be in a cave , either abandoned or being worked on . I figured it could be housed in a shadow box to give it an air of gloom and mystery .
Just thinking out aloud ,
Nick
and another one .
Nick
Quote from: FichtenFoo on September 12, 2010, 02:55:45 PM
Paul, did you get my last couple of emails regarding the fish sub? I just want to make sure that they're getting through and not ending up in a spam filter. Email me back and let me know. Thanks!
Yes I did Michael, did you get mine. I emailed you back on Friday, the 10th.
Paul
Oops! I did. Sorry about that. As you can imagine, I've been inundated with emails and sorting is becoming an issue. LOL! If it wasn't for my spreadsheet I'd be totally lost. If only it told me when emails arrived! :-[ Thanks man!
I was sitting in the thinking room when.... BAM! ....it hit me like a ton of bricks!...I have (IMO) an absolutely stellar idea of how to build this model.....though it will mean cutting the hell out the poor kit (I can feel Michael cringe), and tons of scratchbuilding.....but I am pretty sure it is not something someone else will come up with...or if they do, would want to undertake. Yes, it will make for a very laborius, frustrating and long project....but I think it would be most cool!
...and no...I'm not telling, otherwise someone who builds faster than me (which is pretty much everyone except maybe Chuck) will steal my thunder...yes, that's right, I'm shelfish
Marc
Hey Marc,
Spell check not working...bit of a typo at the end there ;D
Dan
(I'm looking forward to a number of freaky little steampunk monsters to follow with this thread)
Quote from: danpickard on September 16, 2010, 06:01:52 PM
Hey Marc,
Spell check not working...bit of a typo at the end there ;D
Dan
I knew someone was going to be a crab about it. ;)
Marc (no remoras about the bad puns)
Quote from: marc_reusser on September 16, 2010, 05:35:35 PMthough it will mean cutting the hell out the poor kit (
Sushi!
Got my sample casts today... they look great! I should have kits around the end of the month.
Quote from: marc_reusser on September 16, 2010, 05:35:35 PM
I was sitting in the thinking room when.... BAM! ....it hit me like a ton of bricks!...I have (IMO) an absolutely stellar idea of how to build this model.....though it will mean cutting the hell out the poor kit (I can feel Michael cringe), and tons of scratchbuilding.....but I am pretty sure it is not something someone else will come up with...or if they do, would want to undertake. Yes, it will make for a very laborius, frustrating and long project....but I think it would be most cool!
...and no...I'm not telling, otherwise someone who builds faster than me (which is pretty much everyone except maybe Chuck) will steal my thunder...yes, that's right, I'm shelfish
Marc
So our children's children can look forward to seeing the finished diorama .
Go on , give us a clue . We promise we won't copy you ,
Nick
What you mean "we", white man? -- ssuR
Nick,
No Dio...this would be a "stand-alone"...and the most I can say, is that it would be kind of an extreme extrapolation of one of my earlier posted ideas.
M
Sands of time..... ???
Dan
Quote from: marc_reusser on September 17, 2010, 03:06:44 AM
Nick,
No Dio...this would be a "stand-alone"...and the most I can say, is that it would be kind of an extreme extrapolation of one of my earlier posted ideas.
M
Oh well , I'm none the wiser . I guess we'll just have to wait .
I still favour some sort of shadow box . Mainly because I haven't done one yet .
Nick
Just don't do this to it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WC6EbRQmJ0
Quote from: Chuck Doan on September 17, 2010, 10:26:07 AM
Just don't do this to it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WC6EbRQmJ0
That would be very funny... in a sick, twisted sort of way.
Hmm ... so the fish, the torpedo loader, jack-the-ripper and assorted characters all get swept into the fisherman's net ... hauled to cannery row ... and packed neatly into the tin can that Marc will build and load with all these details and display with the top partially pulled back ...
Will the bits be packed in oil, water, mustard ... or, dare I say, chicken fat?
-- Constant Malarky
Quote from: Malachi Constant on September 17, 2010, 12:45:29 PM
Hmm ... so the fish, the torpedo loader, jack-the-ripper and assorted characters all get swept into the fisherman's net ... hauled to cannery row ... and packed neatly into the tin can that Marc will build and load with all these details and display with the top partially pulled back ...
Will the bits be packed in oil, water, mustard ... or, dare I say, chicken fat?
-- Constant Malarky
THAT is a totally cool idea....but way out of my skill and talent league........that level of work falls to the like of Marijn Van Gils.
(for those unfamiliar with his work, you can check out some links to his beautiful figure sculpts and mini scenes here are a few examples.
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This one is one of my all time favorites of his....and its only a 54mm figure.
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..and a personal soap-box note/rant....this model won Best of Show at Euro-Militaire in 2008....compare the craftsmanship, skill and creativity of this build, to the P.o.S. lasercut sawmill that won best of show at the current NNGC.
Marc
QuoteOh well , I'm none the wiser . I guess we'll just have to wait .
Geez...if you're gonna whine about it... ;)...fine here is the "general concept", of course it would all be done in riveted steel and copper girders, gussets, etc.
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M
That'll be fun. I was going to say exploded view earlier, but did not. Will you be doing 3D printing for this?
Marc,
attaboy...
Dan
Marc, please seek counselling. -- ssuR
Quote from: marc_reusser on September 17, 2010, 04:11:04 PM
QuoteOh well , I'm none the wiser . I guess we'll just have to wait .
Geez...if you're gonna whine about it... ;)...fine here is the "general concept", of course it would all be done in riveted steel and copper girders, gussets, etc.
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M
Ha Ha , I knew with a bit of pressure we would make him crack and spill the beans . Thanks .
You have no worries from me about copying your ideas . Way to masochistic for my taste . But , obviously , right up your street .
Nick
What a fish...........
I happen to agree with this forum ranter. How da hell............
This awesome fish is something that needs to be accompanied buy the steampunk deep sea diver, on a dock perhaps as mentioned earlier. The whistle totally blew me away! Deep sea whistle? I'm wondering if it is the same scale ? Or would it matter..............
Philip MTF "maintain the fish" ;D
Thanks! The Dampfrich suit you mentioned was done in 1/20 so not the same scale unfortunately. I might remaster a smaller version though at some point to go with the fish and my future planned subs. Shouldn't be too difficult really at the smaller scale. The large one was easy enough to scratch. Not sure how hollow I'd make the small one though. Maybe just enough to fit a figure bust inside.
Marc, I may be able to hook you up with a spare head from the initial sample casts I received the other day. I think that would be the only solid part you'd need if you're doing the rest as a frame.
8) like your creations!
Philip
Michael,
Thanks for the offer. I actually do need to use the entire sub..some of the body parts around the head and con would be used...the rest of the body would get sliced into strips, so that I can use the resulting cross sections as a template for the rib shapes (how many ribs is the question....stay true to the original plate/rivet lines you have, or add in an extra here and there...).
I don't think I would use PAP for the ribs, too large of pieces (cost-wise), I would likely scan the section cuts, import them into CAD, draw the ribs in 2D, print them, mount them on styrene sheet, and cut them out. Flanges and gussets then made from strip styrene.
M
Do you plan to do this before or after your finish the sunken ship diorama, the decaying caboose, a couple of industrial locos, the rolling stock you started, and the scene where you want to use cardstock to create a stone wall?
No big deal; just curious ....
ssuR
(But I suspect Nick would be interested in your answer, too ....)
Hmmmmmm....it all depends on when I finish the sand trapped space suit, the waste spreader car, the horse drawn 1/2 VW, the two 1920's trucks, the 3 steel side tip cars, the abandoned sugar cane loco, the 20' sugar cane car, the Molino Timber Co. Car, the 28' logging flat, the farm workers shed, the Tiger tank, the R35 observation tank, the 38t tank, the wooden hopper, the abandoned ford/Gaz truck, the KV-1, 6-logging disconnects, the improvised armored railcar, and the Jagdtpanzer IV-A (L70).......there may be more, but I would have to actually open the drawers and cabinets.....and that is not even counting the ton of small bits and pieces I have going as "boredom relief" from serious modeling. ;D
Maybe you could use some lasercut parts... ;)
Quote from: finescalerr on September 22, 2010, 01:36:40 AM
Do you plan to do this before or after your finish the sunken ship diorama, the decaying caboose, a couple of industrial locos, the rolling stock you started, and the scene where you want to use cardstock to create a stone wall?
No big deal; just curious ....
ssuR
(But I suspect Nick would be interested in your answer, too ....)
Don't bring me into this .
Still , it makes my pile of unfinished projects look reasonable ,
Nick
Yeah, this is really the forum of the elite. Even our pile is higher than everywhere else.
WOW :o I thought i had to many unfinished projects......Well one project i scraped got tired of looking at it sitting around for years... The Mobil gas station needed up dating anyways ??? So have parts and pieces from the gas station sitting around that i started but never finished......2 spark plug cleaners....oilrack....Big Gas Sign....pop machine....engine tester.....gas pump....plus a couple more stashed somewere?? im catching up to Marc ;) [Picture of scraped station >:(] Craig
Un-scrap it and finish it. Good start. -- Russ
I was going to have kits in hand today and start shipping tomorrow... Slight change in plans... my caster said the clear parts weren't up to spec so he's redoing the molds/casts. I want to ship out the best possible product, (and I'm sure you guys appreciate that) so I'm willing to wait a little longer. We're looking at a Nov 1 parts delivery. I'll keep you posted.
I've contacted Fitchenfoo's etcher ParaGrafix about doing certain bridge parts for my next kit. Seems like he'll be reasonable and clear to deal with. I'll share when I get there in a month or two. I like this forum because of the new info and sources that can be had for the asking or reading.
John
I GOT SUBS!!!
Paid US orders are being picked up by the USPS on Wed and International orders are being collected and shipped as well. If you're on the first 32 kit list and are not in the US, check your email!
Very cool Michael... looking forward to it.
Paul
Quote from: FichtenFoo on October 25, 2010, 08:03:40 PM
I GOT SUBS!!!
Paid US orders are being picked up by the USPS on Wed and International orders are being collected and shipped as well. If you're on the first 32 kit list and are not in the US, check your email!
Michael ,
How about the second 32 kit list ? Do you have projected time when they might be delivered ? Sorry to sound impatient but I'm looking forward to receiving one with great anticipation ,
Nick
Quote from: shropshire lad on October 26, 2010, 12:32:04 AM
Quote from: FichtenFoo on October 25, 2010, 08:03:40 PM
I GOT SUBS!!!
Paid US orders are being picked up by the USPS on Wed and International orders are being collected and shipped as well. If you're on the first 32 kit list and are not in the US, check your email!
Michael ,
How about the second 32 kit list ? Do you have projected time when they might be delivered ? Sorry to sound impatient but I'm looking forward to receiving one with great anticipation ,
Nick
I told my caster to get on it yesterday so we're looking at sometime around Christmas. :)
Paid. Excited.
That is one interesting kit, Michael...it really gets the imagination going. I may have to bite, only because it's so cool, and like nothing I've built before. Details like the etched fins, gauges and builder's plate are hard to resist.
Your base with the masts and paddle wheel is very well done, and will showcase the finished model nicely...I look forward to seeing how it all comes together.
What's next after the fish...dessert? :D
Thanks Dave! It was shipped out this morning.
Quote from: MinerFortyNiner on October 26, 2010, 02:00:12 PM
That is one interesting kit, Michael...it really gets the imagination going. I may have to bite, only because it's so cool, and like nothing I've built before. Details like the etched fins, gauges and builder's plate are hard to resist.
Your base with the masts and paddle wheel is very well done, and will showcase the finished model nicely...I look forward to seeing how it all comes together.
What's next after the fish...dessert? :D
Thanks! I still have a few slots left for the 2nd edition so let me know. I have a plan in the works for the next sub, but can't give away too much too soon. ;)
SUB'S HERE!
Came home today just as the mailman came...and there it was! Kit 13 of 32! (my lucky number...how'd you know?)
I have to say it is so cool and fun...all the way from the lable graphics to the wax sealed instruction scroll.
From the quick perusal, the castings seem very well done, with no visible air bubbles or surface flaws. Some very minute flash and seam lines in a few places. The clear resin portholes are flawless, and the PE sheet is just beautiful to look at. The valves will take a bit of work and cleaning to get off the casting sheet...but most of us here can save the effort by just using an O scale barkewheel or some sim valve wheels from Grandt or PSC.
It all looks so neat it almost makes me not want to build it and merely save it in the box as a collectors piece.
Marc
Buy another one to build!
Sweet! Glad you like it. I left the instruction seal as an unknown surprise... others have commented on it as well. The valves can be rubbed from the flat backside on sandpaper until they're "free" and have their holes again. That's the easiest way and why I did them like that.
The clear parts are why it took an extra week. He showed me what came out first before he remolded them and they were worse than awful. Definitely worth the wait.
And nobody can show us a photo? -- Russ
Excellent, though I'm jealous. Just checked tracking on mine and it's floating round Fresno somewhere... presumably the mailman is still playing with it in his bathtub... ;) Hopefully will be here on Monday...
Paul
And the rest of us in group 2 have got to wait until Christmas . Pah ! I knew I should have ordered one before going off to the Narrow Gauge Convention . It won't happen again when Sub No. 2 appears on the market .
Still , Marc will have his built by then so we'll be able to steal some ideas off him .
Nick
I'll try to make sure that sub #2 has a larger first run now that I know there's enough interest in these. I have already gotten 46 reservations for the 2nd run which will be 48 kits. ;D
My only problem with this kit is.....
......figuring out how/what color scheme to paint it. Outside I have no real ideas....other than a rusty wolf-pack dark grey upper, light grey lower.......or something like the spotted ME-109 scheme...which is very much like a spotted trout look. Neither very creative or necessarily doing the kit justice. I did think of a silvery metalic look like plates of some sort of "unobtainium"....but I don't really like most of the silver paints out there other than the All-Clads. Then there is the interior color issue ......off white, or zinc chromate green.....decisions, decisions......so very frustrating! :-X :-\ ;) ;D
M
The Mr. Color "super" metallics are VERY nice. They're lacquerish/enamelish. not sure which... I just use the Mr. Leveling Thinner.
Mr. Super Silver, Super Chrome, Super Iron, and Super Steel are all very nice. hobbywave.com sells them as do a few other US retailers. I think I got some from some othger site with a "frog" in the name. Red Frog maybe?
I have plenty of maroon auto-interior "flocking" leftover, so that may be an interior option since I plan to paint it similar to the Dampfrich.
Examples of the Mr Supers:
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Very, very nice. Your fish sub is the bomb. I haven't been too active on this forum but that,s about to change.
Michael ,
Are you saying you are going to paint the whole of your Fantastical Fish (hereby referred to as FF) in a similar way to Dampfrich , or just the interior ? Either way , I hope you explain what you do in words of one syllable because this is new territory for me and I've got alot of learning to do . I have been studying your Dampfrich in greater detail and that is the sort of finish I would like on my FF . I believe that when you built your Dampfrich Alclad didn't produce a brass finish , well (as you probably already know ) , they do now , so I think I will be experimenting with some of that , in addition to a number of their other finishes . Do you have any suggestions as to which Alclad finishes one should get first ?
I have been playing around with some Humbrol Metalcote this evening and I think that has some possibilities , as does your Rub'n'Buff finishes . Hopefully , I'll have some sort of clue what I'm doing by the time mine arrives .
Nick
Oh! I didn't know Alclad had a Brass now. Uh-oh... might have to get that... or just use my Mr. Color brass paint and save a few $$.
As for painting it like the Dampfrich... Yes! And no... I mean, yes, same general copper/brass scheme, but because the environment is different the weathering and such will need to be as well to reflect that. I actually need to post some swatches I did testing various copper paints and finishes. I have a LOT of copper paints, foils, pigments, and buff-ons...
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Was struck with a moment of inspiration this evening on what to do with the Fish Submarine. It occurred to me it could be converted into a steam punk Munchausen/Melies hot air balloon... a Munchausen revisited, Around the World in 80 Days flying machine... eccentric 19th century inventor takes one fantastical travelling machine and converts it into a machine capable of travelling through the skies or the oceans... hmmm
Paul
This entire thread is totally insane. I love it. None of it makes any sense but everything looks great. I need more of my medication. 'Bye now. -- Russ
So I finally have an idea for if/when I do the sub into a dio...maybe a bit cliche...butI am thinking of doing it more like a giant squid hiding an undersea cave witha few tentacles coming out and feeling around, with one of them firmly grabbing the sub. then litter the ground around the cave with fish and shark skeletons.
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This though still doesn't solve the color quandry. :-\
Marc
Woohoo... ;D my Fantastical Fish arrived today... a touch damp from the mailman's bathtub but otherwise in great nick. Wonderful kit Michael... the resin parts and photo etchings are superb, excellent job. I also like the little steam punk touches like the wax seal on the plans... inspired.
I'm committing to the hot air balloon/gyro/submarine combination - a steam punk Around the World in 80 Days fantastical machine. I'm tending toward the copper finish for the sub (mostly because I love the look of copper)...
Should make for a pleasant diversion...
Paul
Marc, very creative. The cave would add a nice, sinister effect.
I visualized the pfish broaching the surface (supported by a stream of water) with the toothy jaws of some subterranean beast emerging from the water encircling the sub. Title, 'In the Nick of Time'...
Paul, copper would be a great choice...but like copper sheathing on sailing ships, it would corrode rather quickly in salt water, no? So would it be the green patina or new copper finish? Tough choice. Using a different metal finish on the propeller, drive mechanism, etc. would provide great contrast. It would certainly be a kick to prove that pfish can phfly.
I am wondering how this contraption could be shoehorned into an appearance on my layout (an On30 copper mining railroad in the Sonora Desert, 180 miles north of the Sea of Cortez)...that's a tough story to weave. A model like this could inspire its own mini layout, with a secret sub base on a demented scientist's island. Sounds like 20K Leagues Under The Sea, but then Verne is my first name...
Quote from: MinerFortyNiner on November 01, 2010, 09:13:00 PM
I am wondering how this contraption could be shoehorned into an appearance on my layout (an On30 copper mining railroad in the Sonora Desert, 180 miles north of the Sea of Cortez)...that's a tough story to weave.
You could have some miners discovering it embedded in rock like a fossil, its origins a mystery to all.
Verne,
All you hace to do is think like the "Wild Wild West" series (the original series...not that absolutely putid pile of steaming crap movie with Will Smith & Kevin Klein.).
In the original series, some nefarious villain like Dr. Lovlace would be building this in the cellar of a building a barn, or the chinese laundry, then have it transported by giant wagon (or balloon) to the ocean.....or maybe even better yet, in an abandoned mine shaft (or mining camp near the shaft) that has an underground river, that connects to the sea.
Your idea and reasoning can be as wierd and wonderful as the fish sub itself.
Marc
Splendid...mysterious goings on at a worthless abandoned claim purchased by a mad scientist...and the machinery going in has nothing to do with mining for ore...a hidden grotto with secret sub base connected to a subterranean sea! This could be a mini-layout connected only with my present layout by concept, and give me a chance to model in a larger scale.
Ray, your fossil idea is very creative, it would be fun to make fossilized aliens from an adventure gone awry in eons before. Bummer is, I would have to bury part of the model!
Verne:
Actually copper is the ideal material for sheathing on a late 19th century vessel. The Royal Navy first began experimenting with copper sheathing on its war ships in the 18th century and after several years of experiments finally found a copper alloy and bolt system that worked. Copper has the advantage of producing a poisonous film on the surface which repels sea life from clinging to the surface while at the same time improving the speed of the vessel. Earlier experiments failed because of the electrolytic reaction between the copper bolts used to hold on the copper sheathing and the iron bolts used in the ship construction. After several failed experiments the Navy was able to come up with an alloy that retained the anti-fouling properties of copper and reduced corrosion. They also came up with a copper/zinc alloy for the bolts which helped prevent the plates from falling off and the ship from falling apart, something that would bring consternation to the sailors I should think. A useful sort of chap by the name of Sir Humphrey Davy conducted the scientific experiments for which he was justly honoured. The Cutty Sark, built in 1869 was sheathed in copper throughout her seafaring life and the sheathing is still in place, though perhaps restored. The use of copper sheathing continued until the advent of more modern and less expensive anti-fouling paint, of which copper is a key component.
Given my love of copper and that my vessel is pure fantasy, I'm thinking a lightly oxidized lower surface (tending to dark reddish brown) will be appropriate, the impression being that the sub actually spends more time floating in the air than in the water...
Paul
Paul, my interest in nautical history far extends my meager knowledge, thank you for the brief expository!
I have also always liked copper...it's at the center of my current model railroad, and having lived in the 'Copper State' (Arizona) most of my life, have been exposed to its production as long as I can remember. It will logically be the metal of choice for my deranged inventor's secret mechanical fish.
Your colors would make for an interesting model, and you have the opportunity to build an envelope device (balloon or blimp?) that could introduce complementary colors, including flags and bunting.
Question for those who Have The Fish: would 40mm gaming figures work alongside it, or would they be undersize?
Verne,
Not sure about the figure comparison (have no idea how those compare to 1/35)...but it shouldn't be a real issue if they are slightly smaller, and at best would require minor modification to the seat inside. FWIW I think you could probably treat the sub pretty much as scale-less to some degree, and with some compromises, range from 1/35 to down to 1/48....the only real give aways are the seat inside, maybe the hatch size, the thickness of the steel plates and the rivets....with the addition of and/or change of some minor details to represent/suggest the the "new" scale you are representing....rivets could be left or redone for your new scale, and the issue of plate thickness would just need to be overlooked.
When I have a moment, I will try to set up some shots with parts of the sub, and a 1/48 and a 1/35 figure so you can see.
Marc
Thanks, Marc!
Quote from: Ray Dunakin on November 01, 2010, 10:03:57 PM
Quote from: MinerFortyNiner on November 01, 2010, 09:13:00 PM
I am wondering how this contraption could be shoehorned into an appearance on my layout (an On30 copper mining railroad in the Sonora Desert, 180 miles north of the Sea of Cortez)...that's a tough story to weave.
You could have some miners discovering it embedded in rock like a fossil, its origins a mystery to all.
Just read any Clive Cussler book , he usually manages to make you suspend belief and has all sorts of old machinery buried in highly improbable locations .
A funny looking old submarine buried in a copper mine in the desert ? No problem . Just do it . It is not as if you have to justify what you do to anyone .
Nick
Suspend the fish in one of the arches ...
Whilst this sort of thing isn't really my cup of tea, I'm intrigued by the mentions, quite often, of "steam punk".
Er, was I away on Zog at the time? Could somebody elaborate, please?
Thanks,
Martin
All you need to do is an image search on google for the "steam punk"...but for now...here is a quicke sampling.
The Iconic Lincoln image:
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Gear:
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Cell Phone:
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Computers:
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Steampunk Star Wars:
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Art:
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...there is evan a fellow that built a steam punk monorail model.
Marc
Think of modern technology married to over-the-top Victorian engineering and materials and you'll come pretty close. I think probably the first examples of this, before the term was coined, were the Mad Max movies and the computer terminals in Max Headroom... old, turn-of the 20th century typewriters running deconstructed computer interfaces... always loved that mixture. There's also a whole literary side to this that hasn't been mentioned which is basically post-apocalyptic... how society rebuilds itself after the global apocalypse that destroys all current social structures and infrastructures... brass goggles are evidently de rigueur...
Paul
Quote from: shropshire lad on November 02, 2010, 12:13:12 PM
A funny looking old submarine buried in a copper mine in the desert ? No problem . Just do it . It is not as if you have to justify what you do to anyone .
Just be sure to add a platoon of MIB agents assuring the public that what they are really looking at is a weather balloon...
Paul
Heh...actually, Paul, I was thinking of forming a Brute Squad of pugs, thugs, hornswagglers, bushwhackers, horse thieves...just to keep the drunken miners and curious townsfolk away.
Verne, don't forget to include the rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists.
Paul-->still in the corner-->
Yes...we are an equal-opportunity employer...no steenking badges required!
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All looks a bit Jules Verne.
Celebrating for the most part, it seems, the worst aspects of the world.
Nope, not my cup of tea at all, but thanks for the explanation.
Martin
Ooh - Steampunk?
I don't think I've ever shown this on here? - It has done the minor rounds in the past though, so some here may have seen it before [apologies].
I built this many moons ago before I was even aware of the Steampunk genre of modelling, in fact the timings would indicate that Steampunk must of been in it's infancy [I could easily be wrong about that]?
Anyway............ it came about because of a melt down from constantly trying to "trump" my previous builds. I literally threw a hissy fit one day and just decided to build something really "stupid, radical, inventive, creative and no holds barred". I was already into vintage boys toys - most things steam related, early engineering and Victorian methodology.
So, ............ this is what happened.......... An experimental 3.5 litre Air/water cooled, single inlet twin exhaust valve single cylinder Grand Tourer.
Ersatz ................ Steampunk by default - I think?
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Ps........... I emailed my interest in the Fish kit yet moments after Marc' announced it on this board................ never received a reply - [sniff!]
Andi: I'm searching through my emails now. There is an "Andrew" in the UK on my reservation list that has not responded to my payment requests for the first edition. Not sure if that's you or not. Maybe I have a wrong email? I can't find an email for an "Andi Little" though and I am an email packrat. I've got decades old emails. LOL! Try emailing me again so I can see if that's you or not. That'd explain it if it is! LOL!
Sorry for the delay in getting back with this info.
Here is the main body and head, with a Verlinden 1/35 figure...this figure seems run at the "tall" end of 1/35 folks...plus there is still some of the casting block left on the bottom of his feet.
This is the body and head with a 1/48 figure (Preiser?)
Here is the main section of the sub, with both figures next to it.
...look away for just a minute, and this happens! :o
Thanks for the photos, Marc, that helps put things in perspective.
Michael, is there a Squid-ShokTM option available? If so, we'll need some marinara sauce to go with the calimari. If not, that fish's toast!
Too cool!
Check out Paul's review of the sub with lots of pics here: http://roughboy.net/?p=1996
With possible space issues for the 1/35 figure , perhaps a 1/35 hunchback would work ? Or as marty said in Young Frankenstein ...."what hump?"
Terry
Then again , the fish could be in sleep OR awake mode !
Quote from: teejay99 on November 09, 2010, 09:06:24 AM
With possible space issues for the 1/35 figure , perhaps a 1/35 hunchback would work ? Or as marty said in Young Frankenstein ...."what hump?"
Terry
Marc has those figs standing, but a seat is included as the pilot should be sitting to fit properly and be comfy. A seated 1/35 fig should have no fit issues.
Cor! It's alot bigger than I thought it would be . The shadow box diorama I've been planning in my head is going to have to be expanded .
I have been mulling over the posibility of adding a few pieces of ancillary equipment onto the sub , but am unsure if they would add anything to the look of the machine . The possible ideas so far are : a worklight suspended in front of the sub on an arm , likewise some sort of magnetic explosive device that can be attached to the underside of a ship and , finally for the time being , a couple of sets of steam powered (or compressed air ) harpoons slung on cradles , for want of a better word , either side of the sub , a bit like helicopter gun ships .
A couple of fishy pictures I have found while "steampunkin' " .
Nick
Thanks for the plug to the site Michael. Since publishing the article yesterday, the site traffic has been up dramatically. I noticed several people have clicked through to your site, so hopefully you'll get a solid lead or two for the next run.
Been collecting images for the airship reference. Originally I had thought of a hot air balloon as in the two images below. I liked the colour pattern of the striped balloon and the general lumpiness of the Munchausen image.
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However, I'm thinking now along the lines of a dirigible which would eliminate the need for a flame source to control the balloon and more along the lines of a small dirigible. The image below is what I'm currently considering. I particularly like the outside frame structure, fits well with the entire steampunk theme and with the rigid outside frame, will be easier to display.
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Of course, how to make the dirigible itself will be the challenge. At 1:35, I'd like it to be a fabric material... going to take some research to find a suitable fabric, perhaps wrapped around a carved foam core to hold its shape.... being essentially a large gas bag, perhaps I'll farm that out to Palin & Company... ;)
Paul
I remember Mad Magazine used to put these recurring spot drawings of a really far-fetched airship in the margins, but the internets didn't find me an image to share. :-[
However, this (http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/2007/06/11/a-madmens-museum/) article about various artworks and models created by the inmates of asylums turned up, which I found fairly intriguing. Take a look at this airship:
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Apparently, paper ship models were another outlet:
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Quote"Ship models made out of rolls of cardboard."
Dr. Marie has many keys, made out of old sardine tins and pewter spoons, and a large collection pipes, some very skilfully carved, which were nothing but unconsidered trifles of wood and metal before demented hands set to work on them. Some of the pipe bowls were parts of lamps in their previous state of existence. The ship model above, made of little rolls cardboard shaped like cigarettes, was executed, in lucid intervals, by a patient who thinks himself pursued by invisible enemies and hears threatening voices behind him. He has also made a balloon, with all its fittings, and a model of the Panthéon out of his cardboard cylinders. Another item in Dr. Marie's collection—a relief plan of the asylum—affords further testimony of the patience, perseverance and skill of which the insane are sometimes capable.
Quote from: gin sot on November 09, 2010, 11:12:51 PM
However, this (http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/2007/06/11/a-madmens-museum/) article about various artworks and models created by the inmates of asylums turned up, which I found fairly intriguing.
Oh no... my secret is out... have to run, I see Nurse Ratched heading this way... ;)
Paul
Wow!...that's just looney!
For anyone wanting to build a the fish as a water-line model at a city riverfront, maybe this kit from Mini-Art will help.
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Marc
If you sawed it off for a waterline model, you'd have the underbelly bits leftover to make another waterline diorama of a turned-turtle, partially-sunken fish submarine. I could see a neat diorama with horrified spectators and a diver in primitive gear preparing to do a recovery mission.
Think General Slocum meets H.L. Hunley meets steampunk.
Or, if the hypothetical mad industrialist had made a fleet of fish subs, you could do a dio with a properly floating vessel next to a capsized one, with all the attendant chaos.
I still haven't figured out how the pilot is supposed to get into and out of the sub . . . .
Paul,
I think a fabric texture would be too much at 1/35.....old dirigible fabric was not very coarse, its was a tight weave coated with a sealer/finish (If I recall correctly it was this sealer/finish that is thought to have been part of the cause of the spread of the fire on the Hindenburg).
How about sculpting a two half positives out of clay or foam, then making a plaster mold of it, drill the form as needed for vac forming, and then vac form the halves out of .010 or .020 styrene....reinforce seam area, and glue together.
We used to use this process for some product models. Another option we used to do instead of vac forming into the plaster was to use the molds to lay up the halves in fiberglass. [If both sides were identical ..and symetrical at top and bottom edges...like your last image, you could get by with only making one half-mold.]
Easier yet would be to sculpt the whole thing out of a really tight cell foam, apply an epoxy sealer/primer coat and then just paint and detail....creates a light weight ballon with hard exterior shell.
These guys carry the foam and the primer, as well as glues and other products
http://www.precisionboard.com/ (http://www.precisionboard.com/)
.....not sure if the do machining...if you can draw the form in CAD as an STL...someone should be able to machnine it for you..at least the rough shape.
Marc
Quote from: gin sot on November 10, 2010, 12:49:18 PM
I could see a neat diorama with horrified spectators and a diver in primitive gear preparing to do a recovery mission.
Or, if the hypothetical mad industrialist had made a fleet of fish subs, you could do a dio with a properly floating vessel next to a capsized one, with all the attendant chaos.
;D ;D ;D ;D
Marc:
Thanks for the thoughts. You're probably right on the fabric issue, texture would be too coarse and it would be extremely difficult to get a tight shape without gross wrinkles and seams. I like the idea of carving the gas bag form out of tight cell foam. It could then be covered with panels of glue-saturated tissue or bible paper to represent the panels of material used to form the bag, with slight overlaps to represent the seams, then painted... it's a technique we used in the theatre properties dept. and it forms quite a lightweight but strong, stable structure. The outside frame could be made from styrene, though I'm thinking more towards aluminum, which would probably be the best, with brass fittings and hardware to tie into the whole steampunk aesthetic... It wouldn't be too difficult to cut those forms from thin aluminum sheet. If I keep the proportions similar to the illustration, the dirigible would need to be around 21" long... not too outlandish. Definitely something I'm going to have to draw up first though...
Paul
There must be a wrinkle in the collective unconscious-- look what just popped up over on the off-topic portion of the Railroad Line Forum:
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Quote from: gin sot on November 09, 2010, 11:12:51 PM
QuoteAnother item in Dr. Marie's collection—a relief plan of the asylum—affords further testimony of the patience, perseverance and skill of which the insane are sometimes capable.
Hmmm...all a clever ploy to identify a weakness in the asylum's security, exploit it through a brilliant escape plan, only to return to the Westlake Publishing forum and blend in with the other...um...other modelers... ;)
Morning my kit arrived safely this morning and when I have had a chance to look closely at will post some additional comments .
The following info really applies only to people in the UK/EU who may have ordered this kit and is my observations only, what you decide to do with the info I will leave to you
Import duty and Postal charges
Be aware that goods purchased and imported into the EU with a value of over £18 (approx. $28) are liable to VAT. or goods imported as a gift from one private person to another private person to a value of over £40 (approx. $65 ) are/can be subject to Customs charges .
I my case the charges were £10.92 VAT + £8.00 Admin charges to the Post Office total £18.92 ( approx $30)
Now due to an admin error these charges were not applied and as they say I got away with it !
Now I do pay my taxes and I don't try to avoid them so I am not condoning the admin error but the rest of you should be aware of the potential sting in the tail.
Along those lines, and perhaps some UK modelers will chime in ... but my UK customers seem to find it favorable if the customs form is marked "handicraft materials". I'm not 100% clear on this ... either refers to hand-made goods or goods for producing hand-made items ... but seems to be an allowance for that which is more favorable than, say, "hobby products" or "model kits". And, if my understanding of the term is more-or-less correct, it's still an accurate description (for things that Michael, myself and others produce) ... just one that's more favorable to the recipient.
Cheers,
Dallas
I lucked out , too , on avoiding tarriffs , duty , taxes , what have you , on a kit sent to me here in Canada from Indiana ......I had it marked "gift" just for fun and it worked ! Atleast THIS time . Maybe I should buy a lottery ticket . ;D
Terry
What do you guys suggest for marking them next time to make it easier on you? I wasn't sure if there's be taxes, etc marked gift or merch... seems like there's tax on it either way.
Hope this is okay to post. We started a Group Build for Fish Sub build-ups on my site. Trying to get as many builds in one place as possible to see the variety. Check it out and join in the sea-fairing fun there as well as over here. http://fichtenfoo.net/forum/
Second Edition subs shipping soon! If you're on the list, check your email for the invoice I just sent out.
http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/tag/fantastical-fish-shaped-submersible/
Wooooo that was a trip~ That's some forum you have there! :o
Gil