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Title: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on September 24, 2016, 12:37:59 PM
A start has been made for the Keystone skimmer shovel in 1/35th scale - research so far shows many variations - different drive wheels / front wheels and chassis fittings - tracks differ in many ways - engines apear to be mainly of the Keystones Hercules 4 cylinder type .
Loads of Evergreen channel on order 
Barney
my thanks for the Photo found on a web page for a show for contractors and tractors one of the best photos I have found all other info found on many Youtube videos   
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Gordon Ferguson on September 24, 2016, 01:03:18 PM
I see you have had enough of Sci-Fi stuff and are now going back to your traditional roots  ;D

Expect to see significant progress by the time I arrive on Tuesday
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Ray Dunakin on September 24, 2016, 09:18:22 PM
Awesome project!

Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on September 26, 2016, 01:36:54 PM
A Start on the chassis with the cross support for the tracks at the rear or is it the front !!
My Thanks to Gil Flores for sending me detailed and close up photos of a "Keystone Electric Monster" although a Electric driven version most of it is the same Im not sure if it was some sort of conversion or an example of one that was built at the factory
Barney
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on September 26, 2016, 01:54:27 PM
electric monster
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on September 26, 2016, 01:55:46 PM
Electric
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: 5thwheel on September 26, 2016, 03:11:56 PM
So it is a forward hoe rather than a back hoe.   ;D  Very interesting looking project.  Keep it coming.
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: lab-dad on September 27, 2016, 08:17:18 AM
WOW!
Utterly stunning modeling!
Amazing craftmanship.
Such skill!
Great job! Keep it up!
_Mj
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Ray Dunakin on September 27, 2016, 08:09:01 PM
These early machines have a fascinating complexity.
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: LesTindall on November 03, 2016, 06:57:09 AM
That looks a "mouth watering" project. I could well be tempted to build it in 16mm scale (1/19th), mind you it would be BIG!!  I love all the detail that goes with such machines.  Les
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: lab-dad on November 03, 2016, 07:29:08 AM
Les, Ha I was thinking the same thing in 1/16th...........

someday

Mj
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on November 03, 2016, 08:11:49 AM
 All ready looking at it - the chassis is 14ft long and the boom will add another 12ft so yes its going to be a bit of a beast in 1/19th or 1/16th
still tempting me
Barney
just worked out the mechanics of the beast so loads of info here if you need it
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: LesTindall on November 03, 2016, 08:26:28 AM
Yes, info please!!!!   One can get addicted to detailing the winches, pipework, etc that comes with these things. 14ft in 16mm scale is around 8 inches plus the boom. I think my modelling room can take that.  Les
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: shropshire lad on November 04, 2016, 12:54:07 AM
Quote from: LesTindall on November 03, 2016, 08:26:28 AM
Yes, info please!!!!   One can get addicted to detailing the winches, pipework, etc that comes with these things. 14ft in 16mm scale is around 8 inches plus the boom. I think my modelling room can take that.  Les

Les,

You'll probably have to get rid of some of your junk models to make room for it . So as an act of selfless generosity I will take them off your hands . And I won't even charge !

    Nick
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: LesTindall on November 04, 2016, 01:36:11 AM
Sorry Nick, most of them gone (sold) already.
Les
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on November 07, 2016, 07:17:19 AM
New chassis built (mistakes in measurements on first attempted ) winding drums and gear drive/flywheel completed - considering the Keystone skimmer was the JCB of the time not much information available but I think I have sorted the workings out plus a minor headache !!
Barney
 
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: finescalerr on November 07, 2016, 10:23:52 AM
I doubt I'm the only one looking forward to seeing your progress. -- Russ
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Ray Dunakin on November 07, 2016, 05:03:53 PM
Fascinating!

What is the large gear made of?

Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on November 08, 2016, 07:58:05 AM
Ray - The large gear is from an assortment of gears I sent for from Japan found them on EBAY 100 + assorted gears /cogs and pinions for £4:00 +£2:00 postage
I think they are mainly for the RC car bods some had Tamiya on them - the red one I used was on fine spokes with a large centre which I removed and glued it to a Grandt Line mining pulley (part no 3511) to create a fly-wheel / driver cog
Barney
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: LesTindall on November 08, 2016, 08:15:37 AM
hat "red one" (the gear teeth) looks looks just the item I need, excuse me being pedantic but what is the diameter?

Les
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on November 08, 2016, 12:48:46 PM
Les - The red gear I have used is 35mm dia' this works out at 4ft in 1/35th scale
All measurements were taken off Photos using a grid system of 4 examples of a Keystone skimmer and Keystone drilling machines the cog drive gear was between 3ft 6in to 5ft so I went for the middle some have an extra bit of weight in them I presume to give it a flywheel effect all had different castings patterns on the spokes and centre fixings
Barney
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on November 08, 2016, 01:06:54 PM
Ray - I forgot to say the gears are plastic normal styrene glue works well all the others appear to be nylon
bottom left shows one with the centre and the spokes removed - there was even a few brass ones in the assortment a bargain I thought !
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on May 09, 2020, 02:12:39 PM
And out of the box - laid up due to not much info' on the little beast -but this little beast appears to be getting bigger ! after more info' and research have learnt a lot - I like to know how these things work it helps me in the construction - the hoist and drums have all been rebuilt - the large wheels are Grandt Line Head frame sheaves (3511) 35mm dia' works out at 48in in 1/35th - these wheels where available (the real thing) in 60in/48in/36in so my luck was in ! all parts at the moment are trial fit and the main shaft will be thicker - the planet gears just visible are nylon clock gears - the drum gears live deep inside the drums - drum cables are loose at the moment the whole assemble is a bit wider than my original versions so a new chassis is next on the list
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on May 09, 2020, 02:13:35 PM
drum assembly
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on May 09, 2020, 02:14:29 PM
other side with drive cog
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Ray Dunakin on May 09, 2020, 09:41:47 PM
Looks good! Nice to see this project getting some attention again.
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: finescalerr on May 10, 2020, 12:05:52 AM
This model may require a little work to complete. The drum assembly seems only the beginning. -- Russ
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Mr Potato Head on May 13, 2020, 06:54:05 PM
Hey Barney
I sent you a care package of Keystone pictures, I took over 20 years ago when a bunch of TNGS members went to the Orange Empire open house in Perris, Ca. Its an electric model, pre Tesla. you know a long extension cord. I call it the "Monster" I want to build her one day, she's everything you want in a zero emission skimmer.
Gil
in exile
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on May 24, 2020, 08:01:47 AM
At last the complete drum and drive bits are "firmly" in place in the new chassis / frame - I say firmly because they where a right pain to fix in there positions so many bits wobbling about
the drums are the third edition ! just did not look right but conquered it in the end
Barney
 
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on May 24, 2020, 08:02:31 AM
the frame
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on May 24, 2020, 08:03:14 AM
now ready for detailing
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Barney on May 24, 2020, 08:05:50 AM
the bits
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: finescalerr on May 24, 2020, 01:38:39 PM
Your stuff always looks good even before you paint it. -- Russ
Title: Re: The Keystone Skimmer in 1/35th scale
Post by: Ray Dunakin on May 24, 2020, 11:46:10 PM
That sure is a lot of fiddly bits! Impressive work.