hi everybody,the cargo bike is a little project that i want to build in 1-35 scale,here is the project picture.
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the location is china,i think they are basically history,but in the west is they are making a comeback.i am a bike rider and have not owned a car in 15 years[i still love a v8].they fall into 2 types all are trikes[3 wheels]
a-bin forward of saddle like the ice cream sellers of new york.
b-bin behind as used in asia this is the variety i will be modelling.
i was lucky enough to photo my referance not far from where i live here is a few examples.
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of course the cargo is the detail this can be anything,farm produce ,furniture.
so to the the net to find a pushbike.there is a g scale made by preiser complete with a farm worker rider.the example that i will be using is a tamiya 1-35 scale.2 bikes great for trikes.i also got a dragon detail etch detail set.it is going to be very interesting to see how all this is going to work.i know that for a start the riders need to be re worked a lot.now where is my super sharp knife for surgery no gloves needed
kind regards kim
G'day Kim,
Sounds like an interesting build. I'd be keen to see where you go with the load on the back. This is likely to be one of those case where that "there's a prototype for everything" saying can be used. Based on that first pic, there is a chance to do some ridiculously overloaded modelling. Have fun with it.
Cheers,
Dan
Sweet. This looks like it will be a fun project to watch.
Don't forget to properly model all the frame lugging ;) ;D
Yeah, neat project! I think all that junk in the first photo posted is just "luggage" and such ... but, at a glimpse, it kinda looks like a house-bike or three-wheeled caravan ... whatever direction you choose, there are zillions of interesting possibilities here. Look forward to your creation.
Cheers,
Dallas
Sounds like a neat project. I wonder what the tire pressure is in those tires on the first pic?
Michael
have just started on the bike i now have a new sense of respect for 1-35 modelling it is very fine. there is little left of the tamiya plastic when you use the etch sheet.the wheels will have to be airbrushed.i feel that all the different scales have there own level of detail and application,with the larger scale you can use more brush work below 1-32 air brush.
i now want to use the bike in a small urban display most likely a secound hand furniture store
kind regards kim
fiddle there and fiddle again why do your hands get in the way.this morning i made a simple gig out of cardboard to keep all the bits square.i have to watch that i can un-glue the finished article.
kind regards kim
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Hey...that looks great!
I agree - a LOT of potential there, looking forward to seeing how this pans out.
Thanks for posting your progress.
Good idea to use some sort of fixture there ... that assembly could get real fiddly real fast! -- Dallas
hi Kim
looking good and great subject matter.
suggest that you drill the plastic headstem in the frame and make-up the forks/handlebars in brass using the etchings & some brass wire. this will avoid the frustration of working with the Tamiya plastic parts and allow you to articulate the front wheel relative to the frame.
In 2 bikes I built I used a section of brass tube (to a diameter that fits into the hole in the headstem) onto which the forks were soldered. the tune was cut-off just above the top of the headstem. the handlebars were made as a seperate part in the form of a "Tee" with the section connecting to the forks matching the ID of the tube. when painting & all other detailing was completed the handlebars & forks were mated with some super glue.
Hope this helps.
have fun & stay cool
Bernard
thanks all fiddle there fiddle over there where are those tweezers.
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have just bought this book at a boot sale,just the thing for a furniture maker.art and craft style maybe is a bit grand but all furniture is based around the same principles.
kind regards kim
Kim
If you want more information and some good pictures try
http://oldbike.wordpress.com/page-4-commercial-delivery-tricycles/
There other cycles on other links from the right hand side listings
Les
thanks les great referance have you checked out the links, there are some funny examples of all sorts of off beat bikes and trucks from around the asia region.
kind regards kim
the nearly finished cargo bike primed and ready for the cargo and the rest of the scene.
kind regards kim
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Very cool Kim. Just saw this for the first time.
Look forward to more. Will there be a figure in your build?
hi wesley this little project is growing.i am planning a street corner with people and a few shops and a square but this changes all the time.i want to build most of it out of paper with water colours[love watercolours].i am finding non military figures a bit of challenge in 1-35 but they are there if not expensive-i dont think it is going to be a crowd.
i want to keep the theme australian, again i dont know if this is possible but this is part of the fun .
kind regards kim
hi all the painting is in progress and the cargo bike is wanting its detail.
kind regards kim
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WOW!
I usually use my phone for pictures but not likethat!
Great little project!
Marty
Very cool.
Now that you are done with this one, and are parcticed at cargo 3-wheelers.....maybe you should try this one while you're at it ;) ;D
http://buyvintage1.wordpress.com/page-59-1930-armor-cyclemotor-bma-100cc-zurcher/ (http://buyvintage1.wordpress.com/page-59-1930-armor-cyclemotor-bma-100cc-zurcher/)
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That's not a bicycle; it's an abortion. -- Russ
Wow, Kim, you're really making quick work of this ... while paying attention to the detail ... nice!
Marc's "suggestion" is a mess ... except those tiny little fenders on the front wheels just somehow give it a little "magic" ... not to mention the possibility of using that thing to pick up passengers where-ever and whenever you want, whether they like it or not! Could be fun. Just sayin' ...
Cheers,
Dallas
When I was in Vietnam 1970-1971 .. never took a taxi .. at least a 'car' taxi. We used the cyclo (or cycle rickshaw) with a motorcycle as the motive power. The ones in Saigon and Can Tho were both three-wheeled .. except one was a pusher and the other had the seats behind. I forget which was where..
hi all -marc that motar bike should be a small plane come glider.it would have a large wing span and a tail assembly somewhere.the three wheels are fine maybe the prop would be at the back attached to the motar by a chain.the frount cargo carrier is fine it could be used as a mail carrier[in sacks]/i just thought it could have floats for water.how about a girl postperson on the motar bike plane landing on the water in a bikine[of course 1-22 scale for all the detail]
the load has to be added to my red cargo bike i already feel sorry for the pedeller i hope it is on the flat.those cycle rickshaws are very tempting there seems to be a variety of passenger protection from fixed to a fan awning variety.funny i was just thinking of vietnam just the other day it is great that after all those years of war it has found peace.
mobile phones are amazing [we dont call them cell phones here in oz].i can be sitting in a cafe outside sydney and log into westlake publishing and check out what russ is having for dinner[3 d is coming]
anyway all the best kim
hi all i hope all is well with you all .
my cargo bike is growing my last effort is the addition of a peddler.
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through this forum i was introduced to the french company MK35 and there range of 1-35 civilian figures i like them.
i bought a few including the peddler.i had to cut and fill a bit of him to fit on the tamier bike.i was a bit of a fiddle to set him up but all worked out .now for the cargo ,i have been thinking of 2 different versions.
any way as they say on tv -have a modelling day
kind regards kim
Impressive little bike!
Your rider looks perfect for the job.
hi all
i hope there are no hill around the rider seems to be having a hard time with his load of suit cases[they came from royal models]
kind regards kim
hi all the year has rolled along again they are getting shorter. my cargo bike now has a potential new home here are 2 photoes of the cardboard mockup.
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the scene is of a street corner,tropical,corner store its wares spilling onto the pavement,corner fences with a nature strip in the foreground , painted cloud scene backdrop .there will be another cargo bike built this one will have the bin in frount of the handle bars european style.size of the diorama 200 mm deep by 160 mm wide[8 inches by 6 inches].will keep you posted.
kind regards kim and of course happy christmass
Kim, some of your earlier photos are missing. Apparently you linked them instead of uploading the originals to this forum. The only way to ensure your images will remain is to upload them. -- Russ
hey russ
have my 2 last photoes come through they are of the cardboard mock up of the street and store frount
regards kim
Mock-up looks good ... looks like an interesting setting for the bike & rider. -- Dallas
i think it is a fun project.after looking at the mock up i have decided that it does not go far enough it think it could be more 3 d.the road and shop needed to be on top of a small ridge or hill that would happen on the long fence side ,then the fence could be falling over into the slope which could have rubbish in its banks that have been thrown over the fence.also on the left hand side of the alley there could be a corner of a tall building
kind regards kim
Neat scene...feels very Australia to me for some reason....and the whole time I am looking at this I can't help thinking this is Mario trundling around on his new adventure.
Kim, yes, your last two posts are fine. I really like this little project. -- Russ
A very cool little project indeed. Nicely done so far Kim.
hi guys
yes i really like australian themes,i have spent a lot of time in far north queensland-tropical australia.it is about 2500 km north of sydney[3000 miles],my contact goes back to when very young living next to a gas works in a swamp-full of crocs and snakes.they used to deliver coal on railway line that was built on a earth embakement out of the swamp.during the secound world war they dumped parts of a oil refinery into the swamp-great place to grow up.the queensland style is slowly changing a shame as the style reflected the enviorment very well.here is a shot of a small cane town -halifax about 10 years ago.
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the 4 x is not a style of porn but a lable of a famous beer ,all the building have wide verandahs,all the doors open you sleep outside with mosketo nets.notice the great street festive lighting,the trees are mango.the public bar is very casual bare feet with a huge open ice chest behind the bar to keep the beer ice cold.as i have said all this
regards kimis changing pity
Kim this is a great project and very well built.
Having grown up in Canberra and Melbourne, I have a less rosy view of Queensland based around the amount of retirees and the regime of Joh Bjelke-Peterson and Russ Hinze....but then again I was young and idealistic!
well all that is out of the way-christmas..new year
i have been entertaning myself with a bit of modelling.
bits are being built for the cargo bike street scape in 1-35 scale.this is the shallow store frount -stryine .
i have now got all the detail bits i need for the shop window display and the pavement.i also have made a start on my secound cargo bike this one will carry ice.
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kind regards kim
You certainly have been more productive than I. Scarlett gave me the flu for Christmas and neither of us has fully recovered yet. Apparently it's really making the rounds. You get a really bad cold and cough and, in my case, fever. Then it just refuses to leave. -- Russ
hey russ
that variety of the flue was all over australia last winter.it really knocks your lungs around.
flue shots dont seem to help. some type of super bug .
but the good thing is that it goes -eventually
kind regards kim
hi all
in the last couple of weeks i have been working on my latest cargo bike -the ice cart.
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again i have been using the tamiya bike kit without the etch detail for the wheels.i have to still to add the signage and a few bits and pieces.the idear came from a danish forward basket cargo bike.
kind regards kim
yah ho over the ton full member wait till i tell my mum.
Wowee-zowee! Now you can send in for your secret decoder ring! -- ssuR
The ice cart is pretty nice, very interesting design. The texture looks a bit rough, though. Not sure if that's intentional.
hi ray
good call on the texture.usually with my models i push and pull a lot,with the mud guards i had signs stuck on them did not like them and pulled them off.guess what most of the paint came off with the signs.nothing to get excited about i will turn it into a weathering feature.
kind regards kim
IKim,
The ice bike is qiute cool. Like your start on the storefront as well.
An you explain to me what those bences are for in front of the shop. (..or am I completely mis-reading this and it is actually a shelf inside what will be somewhat bay storefront display windows?)
hi marc.
yes that is a shopfrount with bay windows.inside the windows there is a small display section with a shelf,above there is usually a curtin.it seems this design was used world wide in australia many of these layouts were copies of british shops.australia as a lot of the rest of the world was part of the british empire, goods from the usa and asia were rare-pity.
i have been buying a selection of 1-35 detail parts for the small diorama,great quality but a huge difference in size some of it would be good for 1-32 scale.
with the ice bike the cargo section looked too big so i have sat a bashed german soldier to get it in scale .the plan is that the ice bike is too be parked in frount of the store without a rider[the rider has gone inside for a pidddle]
to me the ice bike is very art deco so i have to use this design in the finish-maybe those flared mud guards lends themselves to car design.
kind regards kim
hello everybody.my cargo bikes are rolling forward to world domination.
the 3 new photoes are about the detailing of the shop frount the window displays are to added.nothing .fancy
1- a cardboard shell
2 -shop frount stryine.
3-the shell is clad in quality watercolour paper,thick
4-wood detail thin bass wood.
5 painting watercolour and citadel paints.
6-wear ,wet and dry sandpaper.
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kind regards kim
Kim, came across this site which if you have not seen it already might be useful
http://tradesmansbike.wordpress.com/brochures-1930s-new-hudson/
thanks gordon.
i have bookmarked this link,some of those bikes are amazing i especially liked the milk carrier
kind regards kim
Kim some ads for Bex or Vincents powders in the window would really add to the location and period of the piece, if it is Australia, and also The Truth tabloid...(if you can't belive The Truth, what can you believe)
your so right i have to put a bex sign in.
for those of you who dont know bex it was a powder that you used as a general cure all when you felt rotten,good for colds, flue and head pain you get the picture.how you used use it was to put out your tonge and pore the powder on,foul stuff always have a glass of water close by.long distance truck drivers used to have a trick of washing down bex with a bottle of coco cola .
bex has been banned for 20 years.
kind regards kim
hello all
well it is world trade from the land of oz.i think we will have to get on our bikes and hit the avenues of trade while there is still time.
my latest photo shows my progress on the flat shop frount that will be at the back of the small display.once again my teckniques are basic nearly stone age.i like walking into art shops and buying what i need fom the special bins.
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next project the town square
kind regards kim
Kim, please inform us of your crude, antiquated techniques and materials. I rather like the idea of creating something cool from wood, paper, paint, and a hobby knife. -- Russ
hello all
these 4 pictures high lite my basic kit of tools,adhesives,paint and materials.this kit has been used for years .
tools
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adhesives.
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i dont use power tools
hi all how are you.
at the moment progress on the cargo bike is directed at the base of this small display-210 by210mm [8.5 by8.5 inches]
the base is 2 layers of foam core,this is reduced to 1 layer on the right side.the plan is this area will fall away from the road and is slightly eroded.trenches are cut in the foam core and thin strips of strip wood are taped to the outer edge of the gutter,this will blend into the road base.the gutters will be stone[painted plaster]
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the secound picture shows the poured plaster result.basic scribing is carried out while plaster is still wet.next road base and plaster painting
kind regards kim
Thanks for showing your primitive tools and the nice results they are achieving. -- Russ
I was messing about on Google, and came up with these. Might be useful for you, if they attach themselves properly.....
Dave
hey dave
do you really live in seattle-a very fine city.
ah bex they were the masters of the 15 secound commercial-take bex more like 5 secounds straight to the point.my grandfather died of kidney diese cause bex.i think the rolling stones wrote their song
"mothers little helper' about bex.
kind regards kim
hey all
i love these cargo bikes they keep on giving long after the love has gone.i have changed the scene no more rustic shop ,i have done plenty of them in the past ,no more drift wood stain over carefully distressed bass wood with a few photo shoped signs the world of modelling is full of them i am bored by them ,lets make a few mistakes and look forward to a brave new world.
i have re started with the base and made it smaller,i like it
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kind regards kim
The smaller base helps you to focus on the main subject. Now all other parts of the diorama should direct your eye toward it instead of distracting from it. Composition 101. -- Russ
hi all .
i have been busy this week playing around with a bit of compisition on the cargo bike set.first 2 pictures.
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the scene is of a cargo bike riding past a girl waiting at a bus stop.but what i am trying to express is a scene centered around the bike.the girl is looking at the bike[good legs] with the bike framed by the post and street light bracket.the frount wheels of the bike are leading you out but at the same time creating a centering tension with the girls eyes.
next the sky
kind regards kim
Almost a textbook example of the Rule of Thirds. -- Russ
hey russ
maybe a small item in frount of the wheel of the bike would make it a perfect combination.
all these combinations of compisition are great fun it is easy on a small scale but dealing with more items create challenges.i remember the complexities that the painting masters went to both through colour, layout and perspective.
kind regards kim
fantastic bit of whimsy!
I think often we get bogged down in rivets, and forget to have fun.
this just in my email from the weekly Post oops! PRE-War Cars website: https://www.prewarcar.com/the-popularity-of-tricycles-is-booming-top-10-prices-at-auction
maybe these 3 wheelers will make a comeback?