Old Wagons

[finescalerr]

Graham, please stop trying to pass off 1:1 scale horse drawn vehicles as models. How childish. Most satisfactory nonetheless. -- ssuR

[greenie]

Graham, please stop trying to pass off 1:1 scale horse drawn vehicles as models. -- ssuR

Hmm, I'll have to ignore that remark, eh.


I didn't take too many progress photos as I didn't think they would be needed, anyway here's what I've got.


This one of the shaft tips.






Photo etched the brass shaft steps at home using the "SteamPunk" method, it actually works.





Then rolled them to fit the shaft and used a jewellers saw to trim them from the bent sheet.





Tried making the seat out of timber, but it was way too heavy, a trawl thru many different forums and bingo, used the timber bits for 'bucks' for vacuum forming the bits out of 1mm styrene.





Then a few shots of it in a very bare state. I used whatever I could lay my hands on, that would do the job I required it to do. The main medium is timber, MYRTLE, then there's acrylic, aluminium, brass, bronzing rods, even silicone 'O' rings for tyres.
Ever tried to paint silicone, well, it can be done, but only if you use this product to seal it first.

http://www.zinsser.com.au/downloads/tech_data/BIN_Info.pdf












regards  Graham

[EZnKY]

Inspirational work Graham.
I love seeing people work with such skill and craft.  It gives me hope for our future...

[Carlo]

Graham -
Do you have a link to the "Steam Punk" etching process?
Carlo

[W.P. Rayner]

Stunning work Graham... these are absolutely beautiful. The wheels alone are works of art in themselves...

Paul

[DaKra]

What Paul said!   The background is the only hint these are models.   

Dave
     

[greenie]

Graham -
Do you have a link to the "Steam Punk" etching process?
Carlo

Here you go Carlo, the thing you have to be very particular about, is keeping the brass CLEAN, I polished the brass sheet before applying the negative. To remove all traces of the polishing compound,  I wiped the brass with a clean rag dipped in thinners, if any residue from the polishing is left on the brass, then the negative will lift off, ruining the etching process.

Spotless is what is recommended, better believe it.

This has been posted before, I think I read it in the Tips, Tricks, Techniques & Tools section.

regards  Graham

http://steampunkworkshop.com/electroetch.shtml

[Mr Potato Head]

Really nice work! how about some SBS (step by step) on how you make your wheels?
thanks
MPH

[greenie]

Really nice work! how about some SBS (step by step) on how you make your wheels?
thanks
MPH

Hi Gil, if you are interested in making a horse drawn vehicle, then have a look at this site.
I have allready added two sections on wheels, with-in this lot. -- ( look for the 'bits' by radish )

http://www.scalemodelhorsedrawnvehicle.co.uk/(Tips%20&%20Ideas).htm

There are many different types of wheels for horse drawn vehicles, ie - the 'sulky' wheels would not be able to be fitted onto a heavy waggon for instance.
You've heard the saying "horse's for course's", well, that's the same for wheels, there are so many variations that can be made, it's a bit hard to do one write-up, that would cover ALL types of wheels.

regards  Graham

[Mr Potato Head]

Thanks I will have a look at this, I was recently at the "Big Hitch" Parade and the Calgary Stampede" and I fell in love with wagons, plus here at  43 degrees north, 116 degrees West, (Idaho)
There are a lot of wagons always on display. I also have a copy of the Collins book, which shows a lot of examples of really cool wagons, plus I have also seen them on display at the Oregon Museum of Western History. I was just looking for more "how to" info, because I didn't want to reinvent the "Wheel" LOL
Thanks
MPH

[greenie]

Gil, have sent you a  PM.

regards  Graham

[Scratchman]

Very nice modeling Graham. Thanks for posting the photos and the information.

Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/

[Chuck Doan]

Yes, excellent work and inspirational too!

[Scratchman]

Here's photos of three wagons I found on my two day road trip I took last week. The sheep-header wagon and the small wagon I found in Manila, Utah. The other wagon was at the Fort Bridger museum in Fort Bridger, Wyoming.

 





I have 36 other photos from this trip over on my Flickr page.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/

Gordon Birrell

[mabloodhound]

I had this link sent to me for plans of a Studebaker wagon and a J.Deere.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kuntz/wagon.html
Might be helpful for someone trying to build from scratch.