Westlake Publishing Forums

General Category => Modellers At Work => Topic started by: Design-HSB on August 22, 2015, 02:19:52 PM

Title: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Design-HSB on August 22, 2015, 02:19:52 PM
Hello to my project "Klosterstollen" I need a container intended as a section on my model.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F7526%2F13berggl05.jpg&hash=a91fd8056d3b43c919961461ab14ce9e08ddfbcb)

The contours of the container corners, I have taken from the drawing and machined from 0.5 mm brass sheet.
The fold lines are milled with a engraver and the MS 58 was annealed before buckling, so that nothing breaks.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F9197%2F13P1070564.JPG&hash=607446cfe5cd02843b25231204762c76aa2cde41)

It is also able to produce my first vertical corner profile.

Since it was not possible for me to bend such a profile of sheet metal, I cut it from 2 sides of a 1.5 mm sheet.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F9197%2F13P1070591.JPG&hash=f8845581d53fc3dc8ed8f82e3bcea1cac90aa085)
Working with construction approximately 12 hours.

So I'm going to every part of what I can produce a milled prepared for my container on.
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on August 22, 2015, 05:51:53 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Bill Gill on August 22, 2015, 07:07:32 PM
Helmut, a very good start to another one of your terrific projects!
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: 1-32 on August 23, 2015, 01:39:26 AM
hi helmut
great start how big -length.width,height will be the finished model.are you going to paint it.
kind regards kim
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Design-HSB on August 23, 2015, 07:16:47 AM
Hello, thank you for the interest then it is worth indeed continue to report.

An original 20 feet container has the following dimensions in mm in the model and the scale of 1: 22.5

Length: 6058 mm = 269.2 mm
Width: 2438 mm = 108.4 mm
Height: 2591 mm = 115.2 mm

I will restrict the container than half relief on the length of about 65.6 mm.
I want to paint the container in the green at the time originally used.
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: lab-dad on August 23, 2015, 11:24:07 AM
Nice!
Any pictures during the engraving process?
How deep do you cut anc what bit?

Marty
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: finescalerr on August 23, 2015, 11:32:08 AM
Which one is the model? -- Russ
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Design-HSB on August 31, 2015, 11:51:53 AM
Hello there,

Unfortunately, my container, because but for a totally different look, nourish.

Luckily he still is so close to me and I can go remeasure him without problems.

Then I was able to construct more parts and mill already.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F9197%2F13P1070632.JPG&hash=c354d3e95cffbc09d6e0e4ff3beae46ca960e6b6)
Everything milled from 0.3 mm brass.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F9197%2F13P1070636a.jpg&hash=4632a3a6e2455b8d4f5adf9252ff8f291e0a89ed)
Overall, I already about 1000 pieces introduced my short piece of container 0.5 mm holes in the brass, with only a second-hand drill.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F9197%2F13IMG_20150831_201807.jpg&hash=5526a990fe48daad22076258dfb9fd7275720953)
Here to see the use tools engraving tool with a point angle of 92 °, drill 0.5 mm and two milling discs 1 mm.

Now it is time once the missing pieces to construct the sidewalls.
After that, I want only the container assemble to then the doors to be able to build exactly fit to size.
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: finescalerr on September 01, 2015, 01:13:34 PM
You are so good at working with metal it's frightening. -- Russ
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Design-HSB on September 01, 2015, 03:17:55 PM
Hello there,

now I was able to turn parts and have soldered a corner to the sample.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F9197%2F13P1070639.JPG&hash=73a40c5e01dd06ee7bf0d5e9b011157cf5615c60)

Hi Russ, yes I love working with metal, for me there is no better material for model building.
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: lab-dad on September 02, 2015, 05:11:16 AM
Looking good!
Can I assume you are using CAD software to mill the parts?
What are you using? (software & mill)?
Mj
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Design-HSB on September 02, 2015, 01:28:41 PM
Hi Martin,

this is my milling cutter really only one engraving for signs that can only 2.5D.
But she is very precise in the CNC 2 dimensions.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F6484%2F13P1070645.JPG&hash=957eb38fcc7d400edc27488362a9243fa4bccd7a)
Mimaki ME 500

As software I use EuroCut Professional (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurosystems.lu%2Fsoftware%2FEuroCUT_Professional-eng.htm%3Fclosewindow%3Dja&sandbox=1) with this software I can draw and going straight to the Mimaki as a plotter.
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Design-HSB on September 27, 2015, 03:13:54 AM
Hello there,

now I could solder the frame of the container together.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F9197%2F13IMG_20150927_115216_2.jpg&hash=0c733426ee012670ae9f7e829c88b6c33c041e81)

After soldering I can clean the frame only in the dishwasher, more will follow later but there also is pending a floor cross member, as a support for the wooden floor.

Wall, floor and ceiling are the prototype of a multi-layer wood panel, so I'm going to make these parts from 1 mm plywood.
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Bill Gill on September 27, 2015, 05:40:11 AM
Very nice, Helmut, but how did your dishwasher survive the cleaning? :)
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Design-HSB on September 27, 2015, 11:34:41 AM

No problem Bill, the dishwasher, the usual.
So little acid and as much water what should happen there.
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Design-HSB on November 20, 2015, 05:26:02 AM
Unfortunately I had to due to surgery on his right hand to take a break, but now it can go further.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F9197%2F13IMG_20151010_195544.jpg&hash=591fa90ff0603eaa0bccf798e4ce0679a67a9bc3)
Even with handicap I could hundreds 0.5mm riveting solder and thanks to a Resistance soldering tool went this really optimal.

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Ffotos%2Fdata%2F9197%2F13IMG_20151116_213921.jpg&hash=17a75f50ff0df24023a54cca71cb9d1e23a9821f)
The Pertinax plates are merely soldering agents and are later replaced with plywood.
The inner retaining strips I could milling and drilling, thanks to the repeatability of my CNC machine all adds precisely.

Now even lack the internal fan panels and then I can start with the doors.
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: finescalerr on November 20, 2015, 11:43:09 AM
The work is excellent and I hope your hand gets better very quickly. -- Russ
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on November 20, 2015, 07:33:13 PM
Quote from: finescalerr on November 20, 2015, 11:43:09 AM
The work is excellent and I hope your hand gets better very quickly. -- Russ

Ditto!
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Bill Gill on November 21, 2015, 05:56:22 AM
Helmut, looks good, take care of your hand.
Title: Re: 20 feet Container in Scale 1:22,5
Post by: Stoker on November 26, 2015, 06:55:07 AM
Splendid fabrication. I find the miter groove and fold method you used to make the corner boxes especially top notch work. I have never seen that attempted with metal, it is a fairly common technique for producing boxes (1:1) for stereo equipment, speakers and such. This thread caught my eye because I have actually been looking at getting one of these (a 1:1 40') and had to take a look and I am glad I did.  I almost went ahead and bought a real nice one last week (The floor looked like an Apitong bowling alley- was basically brand new), but I am thinking I need to put a concrete slab for it to sit on first, otherwise the darned packrats here in the desert would have a metropolis built under it in short order. Keep up the great work, will be following along!