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5x5x7 project (1/35 scale)

Started by marc_reusser, December 19, 2009, 10:00:33 PM

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james_coldicott

Hi Marc,

really like that finish. Have been using a similar technique for a while with the exception that the base stain coat is done with turps/ water soluble oils. Advantage being that this doesn't have to dry before going on to the acrylic/ tape part of the process. Attached a pic of some engine house doors in 1/32. Had the same problem with tape pulling splinters through as visible in this shot- clean up is quite easy with a razor blade after the acrylic is dry though.

Looking forward to seeing how the project progresses

Ray Dunakin

So far it looks fantastic to me, Marc! Especially the peeled paint boards -- very realistic.
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JohnP

Marc, the 5x5x7 size- are you conjuring up the ghost of Whit Towers and the NMRA Bulletin privy joke plague from the '70s???

Your boards look great. I wish I had the time to mess around with messing up perfectly good boards.

Has anyone ever duplicated that look of grayed, grainy, flaking paint on styrene parts?

John
John Palecki

shropshire lad

Quote from: JohnP on December 25, 2009, 06:51:00 AM
Marc,

Has anyone ever duplicated that look of grayed, grainy, flaking paint on styrene parts?

John

  Yes , Emmanuel Nouiallier in HO . Check out the Military Modelling magazine website .

  Nick

marc_reusser

#19
Thanks guys.

James,
That looks like it's coming along quite nicely. Is this an in progress project, or do you have any finished photos of the engine house?

John,
I think this same method could be done on styrene. I have an upcoming project (shelf orphan revival) where I plan to try the look on styrene.

Nick,
You need to be a bit mor specific in which Military Modeling magazine....Military Modeler, Military Mideler International, Mililtary Modeler in Review...... ;) :)


I made a little bit of progress over the weekend, and started framing this thing up.....man does it take forever.  It's no Jaqc's sawmill, but at least it's something  ;).....I took this photo outside in direct sun, and the color is very "off", and blown out,...sorry....(yes Russ, I did check the white balance)....no idea why....but it shows the progress. The diagonal brace was 'let-in' to the framing, by clamping the fished framed wall onto the mill table, and milling the proper width/depth diagonal cut into the framing members.





MR
I am an unreliable witness to my own existence.

In the corners of my mind there is a circus....

M-Works

finescalerr

I like it! The diagonal fitting into notches is an elegant touch.

Regarding the photo, I would guess that direct sunlight was the reason the color was blown out. In this case, shade would have put less stress on your camera's sensor and probably would have resulted in a more accurate representation.

That "macro box" from another thread would be just what you need to get the kind of photos you want indoors or out. Remember? It's a cardboard box with panels cut out for tracing paper.

Russ

shropshire lad

Sorry , Marc , I can't be more specific than saying "Military Modelling" magazine website as that is what it is called ! I thought I'd leave looking for the actual website to John as I don't want to make it too easy for him .

   "Military Modelling" is a British magazine that has been going for nearly 40 years . Emmanuel Nouiallier has done a number of articles in it over the last year or two . But you don't need to buy the magazine as the articles are on line . I was under the impression that you were aware of that . Pat (Belg) certainly is .
   But you could just be joshing with me , and know all along ,


   Nick

james_coldicott

Marc,

looking very good so far...can I ask if there is a master plan for a layout? Noticed you are doing quite alot of 1/32 stuff.

My doors are a work in progress but I do have a few more bits prepared- some stone wall castings from my own masters which Nick has seen. In fact, Nick, I'll send you some, as promised about a year ago!  :-[

Look forward to seeing your progress Marc- thanks for the inspiration...

James

Franck Tavernier

Hi Marc,

Nice job! how did you stick the boards? With ACC or white glue?

Franck

mobilgas

Marc,  Glad your makeing progress on this undercover ;) build.  The coloring of the wood look's good... but im a little concerned about the paint bleed through on the back side?      Craig

marc_reusser

#25
Thanks for all the comments guys:

Russ:
I actually have one of those "Photo Studios in a Box"...like MM sells....but I put it away, because the cats seemed to like sleeping in it, leaving hair all over the inside and backgrounds.; So I just got lazy and shot outside.  :)


Nick,
Believe it or not there are several Mags with the same words in their title...that's why I was suggesting clarification.  :)

James,
Would be interested in seeing pics of your castings sometime whan you get a chance.

I actually have no plans for a layout (I think if I did ever run something some folks I know would die from shock  ;D)....the farthest I am thinking is of a possible diorama for 2013....but thats about as realistic as sighting a Yeti. ;D   Except for the Bman conversion, I am actually doing everything in 1/35...it works well as a crossover with the military modeling.....though seeing some of the really big stuff here has made me twitchy to try something larger.


Franck,
I use Elmers yellow carpenters glue to glue all my wood.


Craig,
The bleed through (actually it's, seep under)  was from me rushing and not thinking at the beginning...I then corrected the problem midway, and got lazy again towrds the end. It happens if not carefull to hold the peice in place when applying the color.....if the piece shifts any paint that gets onto the adjacent surface  seeps under, or gets smeared on the back.  Luckily, because of the acrylic board coloring method, I can go back and "touch" up most of it, so it will not be noticeable....I did so on the wall that is already glued in place (except for on the arced board above the framing)...still need to do it on the seperate wall. [I'ts much easier to do the touch-up before the boards are applied to the framing.....but I am not always known for my patience or willingness to follow orderly methods.  ;D ]



To paraphrase Gene Hunt...."this project is moving about as fast as a spastic in a magnet factory!"  ;D


MR



I am an unreliable witness to my own existence.

In the corners of my mind there is a circus....

M-Works

JohnP

You know, it just hit me (well, a thought did as well as the nice heavy Belgian style ale in front of me this New Year's eve), since I signed on to this forum I have been looking at mostly model photos of old, flaky paint and rotten boards. Same for all the time I spent looking at the big stack of Outdoor/Finescale Railroader I got this summer. I think it is time to go out with camera and take photos of real crapped-up things. I need to get a perspective. Maybe the collection could combined into an art book. Or how about (seriously) an online resource for all modelers- an indexed photo website of real world surfaces and finishes? One could have a rock foundation or painted barn boards on the screen while modeling. It could be used by military, RR, figure, diorama types, etc. Or maybe it's time to take down the bourbon...

John
John Palecki

marc_reusser

John,
The info in much the manner you mention pretty much already exists on FLICKR....so have that Bourbon, sit back and browse some of these links (you'll probably be quite a while...so you might want to bring the whole bottle, and some coffe and snacks as well ;) ):

Abandoned
http://www.flickr.com/groups/abandoned/pool/

Aging Images
http://www.flickr.com/groups/95713725@N00/pool/

Rural America
http://www.flickr.com/groups/rural/pool/

Rural Decay
http://www.flickr.com/groups/ruraldecay/pool/

Doors
http://www.flickr.com/groups/thedoors/pool/

Urban Decay
http://www.flickr.com/groups/decay/pool/

Weathered Wood
http://www.flickr.com/groups/90429795@N00/pool/

Tin Roof
http://www.flickr.com/groups/84149689@N00/

Urban Alleys
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=urban+alleys&page=2&z=t


This one is not FLICKR...an it has gobs and heaps of really outstanding reference photos (all very good quality photography as well):
http://www.pbase.com/jakobe/decay



....and theres tons more.....I am sure Chuck will be able to provide more links.


A thing to do/consider here might be a section like othe Bibliotheque section on the MIG forum.....it is only for posts on refernce material, techniques, etc......no chatting or follow-up posting, or otherwise.


MR
I am an unreliable witness to my own existence.

In the corners of my mind there is a circus....

M-Works

David King

QuoteA thing to do/consider here might be a section like othe Bibliotheque section

I'll second that motion!  I've found feferance sections or stickies in other forums to be very helpful.

David
"It's almost written down as a formula, that when a man begins to think that he has at last found his method, he had better begin a most searching examination of himself to see wether some part of his brain has gone to sleep." - Henry Ford

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marc_reusser

Quote from: David King on December 31, 2009, 10:11:40 PM
I've found feferance sections .......
David

....I see you're having some Bourbon as well ;) ;D


here is another neat set of 33 images of old brick, and wood examples I just came across while looking for something.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/theomen666/sets/72157621837355725/



MR
I am an unreliable witness to my own existence.

In the corners of my mind there is a circus....

M-Works