Had a sort out of unfinished junk and some I had lost interests in - some bits to finish and then create a small loco grave yard and scrap pile
so far two battery box critters and a compressed air loco
Barney
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Barney, I like your work and they testify to diligence.
Quite adequate so far. -- Russ
Hi Barney.
you are so close to finishing you should just finish it .it looks great-
cheers
Kim is right - too bad for the junkyard - you should finish the models!
Very cool, especially that compressed air loco.
I agree. Finish them up!
Hi, Barney how are you with painting is the thought of painting stopping you finishing. usually, I think that some finishes are not appropriate and the examples of museum presentation are the best, that is a primer and top coat from a hobby quality spray can .no weathering.
cheers Kim
hi Kim - no its not the painting its just at times I get total peed of with the model e.g. taking to long - not satisfied with certain parts and worst of all scale "jumping" and to finalise accidentally dropping it in the paint shop the Ruth Diesel ending life like that !
Scale jumping I think has been my biggest problem but hopefully I have settled to the larger scale by building small prototypes - example small mining critters and mining equipment all built on small dioramas restricted to 2ft x 10'' so they fit in plastic container boxes for storage purposes
(since our downsizing in house) hopefully these small dioramas will be able to bolt together to form one larger exhibition type layout
So to sum up the scrap yard will be "highly detailed" collection of models at the moment building several small features such as an engine block
with cylinder head removed - old exhaust pipes - a galvanised water tank - old starter motors and generators and so on all small items that I know I can finish ! the mining critters will be on a dilapidated bit of track with rotten sleepers with the battery box loco down a bit of a ditch
So watch this space work is processing well and should have photos soon.
Barney
HI, Barney, you have hit on 2 very good points -space and future use I personally like the idea of building the smaller parts at least you can see some progress
cheers Kim
The nice thing about scrap lines is you can build whatever you want, and all that lovely rust (sorry I'm dribbling!!)
Here's one just a few miles from me here on the Isle of Wight".
Les
Don't forget the angry junkyard dog.
Barney,
I like the scrap yard approach. Much more than another finished 'cupboard exhibition item'. Very difficult to model with a slightly overgrown chaos. Some kind of barn(ey) find.
Volker
Les another classic load of junk loads of dribbling this end too !!
I think Junk - rubbish- grot with rust is part of life if you want a bit of realism in our world of models - but its also nice to see well looked after locos and trucks - its all about a balance
Barney
Perhaps I'm becoming a "wierdo"! As I look around on my day to day travels I seem to look more closely at rust, grot, stains. Too often I go to model exhibitions and see glossy engines, pristine stock - that's not life. Things deteriorate (especially us humans) and that is what I like to reproduce in models. Long live rust!!!! (though it usually doesn't)
Les
Quote from: Les Tindall on January 28, 2019, 06:58:19 AM
The nice thing about scrap lines is you can build whatever you want, and all that lovely rust (sorry I'm dribbling!!)
Here's one just a few miles from me here on the Isle of Wight".
Les
Les, that's not scrap , it's good stuff waiting for a new use ! Do you know what the crane is ? Looks a bit like a Ruston Bucyrus RB17/19 . Am I anywhere close ?
Nick
Its a Preistman
Les
The scrap yard collection is growing - a petrol pump with all its inner bits -a single cylinder stationary engine with water pump and a few galvanised tanks with fittings
Barney
Maybe you could have a yard sale instead of a scrap yard and recoup some of your investment :)
What a beautiful collection of future junk. -- Russ
As always Barney, superb, lovely clean lines great detail.
Les
Barny, such a junkyard can have more flair like make glossy plant. I'm excited to see what happens next.
Nice collection of "junk", and much more interesting than the usual pile of castings.
More junk for the yard (or usable bits for another day) The hand winch - all parts trial fit only so-far needs a few more spacers on shafts and fit a brake - the cogs are nylon and were a bit thin for 1/16th scale so they now consist of two glued together back to back
Barney
the real thing
Bit more work on the old boiler (well past its sell by date) more pipes and fittings and a sheet of metal or old enamel sign with a brick on top !
at the moment in a under coat
Barney
the prototype
Your models look better than their prototypes. -- Russ
What kind of paint will you use to paint the nylon gears?
Barney, this is just great, inspirational stuff. I was thinks of making a winch and boiler too (16mm scale - 1/19th), so now I know how to do it! Recognise the winch location (Black Country Museum - a wonderful place for modelling ideas).
Les
Ray I use an enamel based paint in this case I have used Humbrol Tank grey /dark grey - is it important to remove the slimy effect of these nylon gears by giving them a good washing in warm water and washing up liquid . and if possible when dry give them a quick rub with 400 grit paper it gives them a bit of a key - the same goes for glueing it also helps to score the flat surfaces with a knife to give it extra grip
photo shows a quick under coat of humbrol of the parts I can to get to for spraying the whole thing all parts still a trial fit (a few edges to clean up )
The Enamel paint does stick well - top coat can be an acrylic colour if preferred But I have found the acrylic based paint pretty useless for under coating these slimy nylon surfaces
I have also used car paint cellulose with success on nylon but it does get up your nose a bit and gives you one hell of a headache
Barney
Looking good, Barney!
Barney, thanks for the info on painting nylon.
My favorite prep for plastics is a Dawn Dish Detergent. While on a tour of a railcar manufacturer in the summer of 1980, our tour guide informed us that the factory used it as a de-greasing agent for many machined parts prior to painting and assembly because as a consumer product it could be simply sent down the drains without treatment. The stuff arrived in55 gallon drums. They did however, pass all of the cleaning waste water through an oil separator to remove any oily residue. Try a bit of it with very hot water in a power washer at the end of the winter to clean the undercarriage of your car and rust and grime will be limited to your model shop.
When you have made the one with the most holes and rivets along comes a simple version
boat yard scene from Les
Rust inspiration
Barney
and a bit more
The first bits ready for the yard - well nearly - The petrol pump and the winch - bits to touch up and a few more weeds all the parts will be on small bases which will then be fitted to the main diorama
the pump
the winch
This petrol pump looks fantastic :o! Maybe those rotten sheets might benefit from some more rusty look all over, it looks a bit like it has been painted after it had rottened away.
The pump looks fantastic. I agree that the rusted out panels need to have more rust around the holes.
That is some of your best work. Most satisfactory. -- Russ
Even a Scrapyard can get wonderful under your Hands.
yes, great petrol pump.
Sorry Barney, been away (holidays), just picked up the thread. Yes the derelict pump looks great. Some of those photos of the real derelict wagons make you think - what was it used for? There you are - dioramas that lead to questions.
Les
Thanks everyone for your comments - rust on the rotten bits now being done - the rust on the pump is more coming from the inside and bubbling the paint up like the wings and sills of older cars but yes the bits were its total rot needs a rust effect on the top
Barney
Attended a meeting of the Slim Gauge Circle on Sunday - So I thought better show willing and take a few bits and pieces - I put parts of the scrap yard on a temporary
base - Not everything was "screwed down" so that it could be removed later to be installed on the bigger base board at a later date.
A few things not happy with the cogs on the stationary single cylinder engine I think are a bit course and need thinning down. The scene needs a bit more colour - started now making boxes of junk and more components with more colour e.g. starter motors /shelf brackets/engine blocks and old cans the list is endless but you have to make a start somewhere !!
So have a quick walk round the junk yard and keep your hands in your pockets -
Sign to be erected "Vandals and Thieves will not be prosecuted but next of kin will be informed"
Barney
And some more
I guess the operative question is whether the things you don't like really look bad ... or do they just look imperfect to you? Maybe a little more color (such as shrubbery) here and there but, as it stands, the diorama is rather adequate. -- Russ
Looks very good to my eye's ;D
Hello Barney,
scrap places have a special flair for themselves and you have succeeded very well from my point of view. Now it is the case, however, that it depends where the shotgun is located. In a desert it is very dry and therefore little or no green. In climatically wetter areas it looks very different and it can even occur that a tree has grown through such a scrap part. So everything is possible and nothing wrong, it only depends on where your junkyard should be located in.
Hi Barney.
looks like a well-balanced scene like the cover on the boiler chimney and the painting
cheers
Looks pretty darn good to me!
If possible, you might try photographing it outdoors in natural light. That can helpful in determining if something is truly "off".