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General store in O scale (learning exercise)

Started by lab-dad, October 19, 2008, 04:15:25 PM

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lab-dad

I played around with an extra brick wall casting to try some new techniques.
Any comments or suggestions?
There are no old brick walls here in Fl for me to inspect.

Thanks
-Marty

TRAINS1941

Marty

Some nice progress going on there.  The front is looking good can't wait to see how it looks with the glass windows.
Don't know that much about brick but I think when I look at brick up here it could be a more orange/red but I guess that depends on where the brick was made.  And maybe the picture isn't showing it as the real color, that you have.

Jerry
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Chuck Doan

Try Flickr, search for "GRoups" or "tags". Try brick, old brick, brick walls, etc.
"They're most important to me. Most important. All the little details." -Joseph Cotten, Shadow of a Doubt





http://public.fotki.com/ChuckDoan/model_projects/

marc_reusser

Marty,

I have issues with the darkness and coloring of the brick.

Much of what irks me I think is the clash between the dark color, and the character of the brick wall (the TY style of dillapidation).....speaking purely generally  and from my experience & observation in regards to this type of structure (I am sure there are images out there to contradict me)....to get this amount of dillapidation and wear on a brick wall, the brick would tend to be of a more poreous and "softer" consitancy...as this would allow it to "crumble" and "errode" in the manner replicated......these types of bricks tend to be of a lighter coloration.....sort of like the one image Russ's on TNGS. ....and Before I get completely hammered here......Yes, color is in large part due to the type of clay that was used to make the brick.....but in this same vein...certain clays are far more porus and brittle than others.....and...depending on how a brick is fired, will also affect its color, and structural integrity/quality.

There are loads of "brick painting recipies" out there.......and I have one from a military modeling mag...if you want, I can scan it and send it to you.

Marc

I am an unreliable witness to my own existence.

In the corners of my mind there is a circus....

M-Works

chester

I agree with your assessment of the softer brick Marc. Usually referred to as Slamon (most frequently bastardized into 'Salmon') brick it is unfired and usually used as a filler or interior brick but quite often because of it's lower cost is mistakenly used outside. Typically a very bright orange in color.

lab-dad

Okay guys first off thanks.
I was fishing for comments, I wasn't crazy about the color and the appearance is somewhat subjective. I wasn't sure what to do, so I asked.
I do agree it needs to be more orange.
I am not structural expert, and have no desire to build all new walls, I'd like to learn /improve my brick coloring build the building and move on.
Anyway.....
I added some powders, painted in some "burnt" ones and photographed it in better light.
What now?


a close up (disregard the "holes", its an extra)

marc_reusser

It's much better...maybe some semi transparent beige-orangish washes on areas/briks.

But now what bugs me is the sheen :-\.....is it just the photography......or do they actually have that sheen? For the condition of the bricks and type/era of the building, these things need to be DEAD flat.
(Shame...Shame.....you sealed with dullcoat didn't you ;) ;D ;D )

Marc
I am an unreliable witness to my own existence.

In the corners of my mind there is a circus....

M-Works

lab-dad

Yes there is a sheen.
It was there before I sealed it with MATTE ACRYLIC!
I think the bricks should look more "powdery"
I used cheapo art acrylics, I guess I am going to have to use vallejo for everything?
I may try another using a paste made from powders?
Any suggestions on paint to use? may be I should have thinned and washed the color on?
At least i am making progress and learning!
Thanks master!
-Mj

marc_reusser

Funny guy :P...don't go calling me me master, I stink at doing bricks.......but am never lacking for an opinion.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'll see if I can dig up that article.

Marc
I am an unreliable witness to my own existence.

In the corners of my mind there is a circus....

M-Works

jacq01

#24
  Here a site with some potential reference. http://www.cgtextures.com/

  Click on bricks and a lot of samples open, click on a sample and more variants are shown.
  Similar for cloud - or other backgrounds.

  Jacq
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shropshire lad


shropshire lad

Marty ,

  If the wall is hydrocal you can either go the "Lane Stewart" route or the "Randy Pepprock" route . If the wall is resin ... shame on you!


   Nick

marc_reusser

Err...which "route" or what methods did you use, Nick ol' boy.


Marc
I am an unreliable witness to my own existence.

In the corners of my mind there is a circus....

M-Works

shropshire lad

Lane Stewart , of course. I never seal the plaster walls before painting . I use artist's watercolours, as Lane describes in the articles he did in the Gazette in the early Nineties.Are you familiar with them ? If not we'll have to do something about that .
  The Randy Pepprock way partly seals the plaster first and and uses acrylics to colour them .
Neither way is "better" than the other, it is down to preference.

  Nick

lab-dad

Thanks Lad,
I never seal my PLASTER castings.
I think where i went wrong on the test one is too much, too thick, too poor paint.
I am going to try again, using different paint, technique, alcohol.

Marc, i would appreciate seeing the info on the technique you mentioned, after all I am trying to learn/use new ideas.
Thanks! Oh and ditto what Nick said, no chains no prize!
-Marty