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Title: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Scratchman on March 12, 2010, 03:06:24 PM
The set of drawings are in the May/June 1989 Gazette by Rich Dunn. I'm building this loco in 1:16 scale. The drawings are not showing much detail on the back head, valve gear, and the brakes.

I am also looking at the Mini Baldwin and some small Porters. I may do one of each.

Specification.
Builder......Dickson Locomotive Works
Date Built.....Feb 1899
Shop Number .....989
Gauge......23 5/8" (60cm)
Cylinders......6" x 9"
Driver Diameter......22"
Weight......13,000 lbs
Fuel...coal

Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: ron knepp on March 12, 2010, 03:39:25 PM


Hi Gordon

I have the erecting drawings for 5 small Baldwin 0-4-0's on Flickr at the
following link:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/knepp736/

I also have another 6 Baldwin 0-4-2's that I will post if there is any interest.

Ron Knepp


Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Krusty on March 12, 2010, 08:01:02 PM
Thanks for posting those Ron. They're superb drawings. Would love to see the others.
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Post by: RoughboyModelworks on March 12, 2010, 08:24:18 PM
Yes, thanks for the Baldwin drawings Ron... very useful.

Paul
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Scratchman on March 12, 2010, 10:03:18 PM
Thanks Ron those drawings will be very helpful. I like the number 6648 and I will be looking forward to the 0-4-2s drawings.

Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: SandiaPaul on March 13, 2010, 04:43:39 AM
Thanks for putting these up FINALLY someone is willing to share original drawings!
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Post by: marc_reusser on March 13, 2010, 10:26:21 AM
Ron,

Those are really great. Thank you for the time and effort to scan and paost them. Very much appreciated.


Marc
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: ron knepp on March 13, 2010, 01:25:09 PM


I am glad that others enjoy them. I posted 6 more narrow gauge
0-4-2's today.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/knepp736/

Ron Knepp
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: lab-dad on March 13, 2010, 02:23:54 PM
BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!
Thanks a million for sharing!
Got any 0-6-0 Porter?
-Marty
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Scratchman on March 15, 2010, 05:49:05 PM
Here's what I've got done on this little loco.

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Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Ray Dunakin on March 15, 2010, 06:34:09 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: marc_reusser on March 15, 2010, 09:30:10 PM
Beautiful.

Man, you are a speed building animal!


Marc
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: finescalerr on March 16, 2010, 12:59:34 AM
Good heavens! He's building yet another model! -- Russ
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Ken Hamilton on March 16, 2010, 03:56:27 AM
I could watch you build this stuff all day.
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: jacq01 on March 16, 2010, 11:35:03 AM
  Gordon,

  nice, most probably when you read this, all will be finished.................

  to appetize you hunger for small loco's look at the photo's at the bottom of this link page

  http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/showgallery.php?cat=500&si=&page=1&sort=7&perpage=80&password=&ppuser=1800&stype= (http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/showgallery.php?cat=500&si=&page=1&sort=7&perpage=80&password=&ppuser=1800&stype=)

  Jacq
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Scratchman on March 19, 2010, 02:56:42 PM
Thanks guys for your comments.

Here are three more shots of my progress

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Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Frederic Testard on March 19, 2010, 04:48:16 PM
It is superb, as usual. Between your styrene achievements, and this German metal loco scratchbuilt posted this morning, we've had lots of beautiful locomotive building to enjoy today.
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: RoughboyModelworks on March 19, 2010, 05:09:33 PM
Gorgeous Gordon... up to your usual standards as always. I'm just amazed at how quickly your work...

Paul
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Ray Dunakin on March 19, 2010, 07:05:49 PM
Holy moly, that sure is looking great! Speedy too. You're cranking out locos like Baldwin during the war!



Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Tom Neeson on March 19, 2010, 11:01:34 PM
Really beautiful Gordon. Can you give me some advice on how you accurately cut sheet styrene.

Thanks, Tom
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: marc_reusser on March 19, 2010, 11:58:43 PM
WOW!...simply outstanding styrene work.

Marc
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: finescalerr on March 20, 2010, 12:55:34 AM
I am really partial to this loco. It has all kinds of style. You have done a satisfactory job of construction so far, too. -- Russ
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Scratchman on March 21, 2010, 03:32:39 PM
Thanks again for your comments.

Tom, I do my sheet cutting on a pad of quad paper . line up the sheet on the paper to square it and then line up your straight edge with the lines on the paper. Score with an X-acto knife  and break don't try to cut all the way though. this will work good on thicknesses up to .040. For .060 .080 .100 .125 I will use my table saw.

The photo below is showing two tools to cut circles. I got the X-acto circle cutter last Friday and it is so much better than the compass that I've been using for the last past 40 years. All the cuts on this photo are out of .040 thick styrene with the blade in the right way go around three or four times then turn over and go around three or four times and then break loose. If need be clean up with an emery board. the compass is used the same way but may need more times around.

Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/


Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Scratchman on March 21, 2010, 03:34:25 PM


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Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Tom Neeson on March 21, 2010, 08:06:15 PM
Hi Gordon
    Thanks for the pointers. I wonder if the circle cutter could be used for straight cuts on thin material. I think I'll have to pick one of those up.

Tom
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: SDwn on March 22, 2010, 11:35:14 PM
     Nice work Gordon. Can you go over how you made the saddle tank if you do not mind (unless I missed it in an earlier post). I am curious as to how you made the styrene bend so nice and evenly. Did you heat it up or use a jig and do you think that your technique would work in smaller scales. Thanks    Sean
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Scratchman on March 25, 2010, 03:45:10 PM
Tom, I think a straight edge and a X-acto knife is the best way to go.

Sean, the styrene on the water tank and the boiler is put over a core of tubing. You can see the left over part of the water tank core in one of the photo below. One section of  2" tubing inside a section of 3" tubing with wood spacers  I will go into more detail on this type of tank construction in my up coming article in the  Narrow Gauge Annual.

Here's two more photos of my progress on the cab and the wheels
                           
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Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: finescalerr on March 26, 2010, 01:08:55 AM
Gordon, that is just disgustingly elegant. I'm so jealous of your skill that I'm going to stick my head in a vat of acid. -- Russ

(Oh. I must already have done that or else why would I look like this? Now where is the phone number for my plastic surgeon?)
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Frederic Testard on March 26, 2010, 01:25:06 AM
Quote from: Uncle Joker just coming out of the acid bath
Now where is the phone number for my plastic surgeon?
In the bottom of the vat, Russ...

Batman going to the cornaire (if there's some room left).

Apart from this, you're not the only one to be jealous of Gordon's fabulous skills...
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Chuck Doan on March 26, 2010, 08:41:04 AM
Excellent as usual. I really like those curved buffer beams/pilots.
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: SDwn on March 26, 2010, 11:03:06 PM
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks for the picture. I will look forward to seeing it in the Annual.   Sean
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Ken Hamilton on March 29, 2010, 04:43:32 AM
Another masterpiece!  The scratchbuilding on this thing is unreal.......
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Scratchman on April 22, 2010, 05:06:42 PM
Here are the last two photos before I start painting and adding the last of the parts. The wheels will be removed so the wheels and the frame can be painted by themselves. The water tank will be glued on to the boiler before painting. I have the bell and a light for the rear coming from Trackside Details. The cylinder casting is one of the harder pieces there is to model on this type of locomotive. 

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Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: RoughboyModelworks on April 22, 2010, 08:36:47 PM
Outstanding work as usual Gordon. You never cease to amaze me with how quickly you produce these...

Paul
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: finescalerr on April 23, 2010, 12:44:17 AM
Gordon, you ol' rascal, you are always an inspiration! -- Russ
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Post by: Chuck Doan on April 23, 2010, 07:06:23 AM
Excellent view of all the different materials.
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Post by: DaKra on April 23, 2010, 07:20:40 AM
Nice!  What do you use to hide the grain in the wood parts?  I guess thick CA?   
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: lab-dad on April 23, 2010, 11:44:44 AM
Stunning!
I could look at that all day!
Marty
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Frederic Testard on April 23, 2010, 04:52:39 PM
Even in this unpainted step, this is a fabulous model. Like Marty, I could watch it for hours.
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Scratchman on April 29, 2010, 04:48:12 PM
Thanks guys for your comments. Dave I use a thin CA on wood parts that needs the wood grain hidden.

Here's two photos of the frame finished and painted.

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Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Ray Dunakin on April 29, 2010, 08:17:28 PM
Gordon, on your locos, how do you attach the cab? Is it usually removable? If so, do you prefer to remove the entire cab, or attach the front wall permanently and make the rest removable?

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Post by: lab-dad on April 30, 2010, 06:18:27 AM
Beautiful colors & initial weathering  Gordon!!
-Marty
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Scratchman on April 30, 2010, 06:47:30 AM
Ray, Only 3 out of my 14 locos have removable roofs and none have a removable cab. Removable roofs are sometimes necessary but they are always very hard to model. The closed cabs on my work trucks do need removable roofs so you can see the interior. Any model with a full interior like a caboose or building I will go to the extra work to make the roof removable. The cab on this Dickson is very open so there is no reason to have a removable roof.

Gordon Birrell

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Scratchman on May 23, 2010, 11:11:31 AM
Almost got this one finished. Still needs some added work in the cab and the cab still needs to be glued on to the floor. After this work is finished I'll take and post  more photos. 

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Gordon Birrell


http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: finescalerr on May 23, 2010, 12:23:47 PM
I absolutely love that locomotive! What a beautiful little masterpiece! -- Russ
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: jacq01 on May 23, 2010, 12:24:49 PM
   doesn't need any remarks or praise, just watching it...................

  Gordon, thanks.

  Jacq
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Scratchman on May 23, 2010, 07:08:46 PM
The headlights, bell, pop valves, lubricator, injector and the three large valves are from Trackside details.

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Gordod Birrell


http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Malachi Constant on May 23, 2010, 08:11:42 PM
Stunning!
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Ray Dunakin on May 23, 2010, 10:26:56 PM
Beautiful! A very well-proportioned, attractive little loco, and the backhead details look terrific.
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: lab-dad on May 24, 2010, 06:34:19 AM
AWESOME, just Awesome
Gives me inspiration for my little loco!
-Marty
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Franck Tavernier on May 24, 2010, 11:04:31 AM
Really impressive Gordon!

I would like to be able to do the same thing in 1:35!
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: marc_reusser on May 26, 2010, 12:03:52 AM
Really beautiful Gordon.

Marc
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Scratchman on May 31, 2010, 02:03:23 PM
Here's two photos with the little engine on my diorama one in black and white and one in sepia.

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Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: chester on May 31, 2010, 05:04:01 PM
Quote from: Malachi Constant on May 23, 2010, 08:11:42 PM
Stunning!

Indeed!
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: LLIAXTEP on May 31, 2010, 05:43:50 PM
Thanks for the inspiration, Gordon.
Looking forward to your article in the annual.

Alex
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on May 31, 2010, 06:43:22 PM
I love the short wheelbase on that loco.

Nice diorama!

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Post by: finescalerr on June 01, 2010, 12:55:39 AM
Supremely adequate. -- Russ
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Post by: Ken Hamilton on June 01, 2010, 04:22:59 AM
Love those vintage pics. Another beautiful job, Gordon.
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: TRAINS1941 on June 01, 2010, 05:02:02 AM
Gordon

Beautiful work and beautiful pictures!!!  Another outstanding model by you.

Jerry
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: Chuck Doan on June 01, 2010, 06:58:32 AM
Good to see it done, Gordon! Neat prototype, and of course, a beautiful model of same.
Title: Re: Mini Loco Dickson locomotive Works 0-4-0ST
Post by: marc_reusser on June 03, 2010, 11:22:05 PM
She's a real beauty. Wonderful workmanship.

Marc