Old Wagons

[Scratchman]

Ray, thanks for the info on the Dump Bottom Wagon. It's close to the Dump Bottom Wagon in the Kemtron plan book #15 

Chester, nice job on the Jordan kit and thanks for adding the article on the Watson wagon.

Here's a scan of the cover Wagons Kemtron plan book #15. The book also has plans for a 1925 Ice Wagon and a 1870 Wells-Fargo Mud Wagon.



Here's a scan of the cover Heavy Motor Trucks Kemtron plan book #14.



Gordon Birrell

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[Scratchman]

The last time I checked these Kemtron plan books were still available though Precision Scale Co.

Gordon Birrell

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[DaKra]

Those plans look very interesting.  Is there much commercial interest in 1/48 horse drawn wagon kits?  They look like something I could get excited about. 

[finescalerr]

I happen to model the pre-automobile era but I'm in a tiny minority. Most narrow gaugers model 1935 and later. And the standard gauge market couldn't have more than a dozen modelers of the pre-auto era in all scales combined.

But you might sell kits to people who just like wagons regardless of their interest in trains. Somebody at a recent NG Convention sold some laser cut wagon kits and a few of my friends bought them.

Russ

[Scratchman]

Grandt Line has some great 1:48 scale wagon wheels.

Gordon Birrell

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[LeOn3]

But you might sell kits to people who just like wagons regardless of their interest in trains. Somebody at a recent NG Convention sold some laser cut wagon kits and a few of my friends bought them.

Russ

I don't know if you mean this guy Russ, but I recently found this on the internet and I think that these wagons are some nice kits to build although I've never seen one for real. http://www.g-m-e.com/images/HO_S_O_WATER_WAGONS.jpg

Leon

[DaKra]

Hm, yeah... once again... I am well outside the mainstream.

But these wagons are so cool, maybe I will do a one-off in 1/48.   Or maybe just a set of technical drawings.  Simply out of personal interest.   

Russ is this something you'd be interested in for an article? 

Dave   

[finescalerr]

Absolutely.

Dave, if you were going to the trouble of an article, then I would approach it this way: How a laser kit manufacturer designs a wagon from the ground up. If you build it with a really nice finish, then I would want the steps you go through to achieve that as well. Your company name would be included in the article to encourage people to check out your product line.

Russ

[DaKra]

Hi Russ

That sounds like a really good plan.   Maybe I'll do that beer wagon.   

Dve

[Ray Dunakin]

That ore wagon is one of the many things on my long list of "someday" projects -- things that aren't a high priority but would be fun to build. I'm modeling a later era but I could have it as a "historical display" in one of my mining towns.

[Scratchman]

Here's more wagon photos. These are sitting in Fairview, Utah.





Gordon Birrell


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[DaKra]

Got the Ivan Collins book yesterday, quick & courteous service from Wildhorse Books, and well worth the money.   Beautiful models, well photographed.  A few plans in the back, too.   Collins built some cartwright's tools in the same scale of his models, like a tire bending machine, then actually used them to build the models.   

Thanks for finding that link Paul. 

Dave

Those are fantastic. I seem to remember seeing a book about his models many years ago, maybe 45 or so, at the public library. The pictures sure did ring a bell. His wagon plans are available online at Wild Horse Books & Art. The site also has many colour photos of his wagons.

Paul

Edit: From what I've been able to find out, the Oregon Historical Society holds his collection.

[searoom]

For several years Don Kralik at Xeodon had three excellent 1/48 wagon kits.        http://xeodonrail.com/
These were very accurate and delicately cast in resin. They are now out of production but perhaps Don could be coaxed......

[Scratchman]

Dave I'm ordering the book and a few sets of plans. Would you list the plans in the book for me so I don't end up with two sets of plans for the same wagon?

Gordon Birrell

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[DaKra]

Hi Gordon

You'll really like this book!  I'm cautious about buying more books these days, as I have too many, but this one is excellent if you're interested in model wagons. 

The plans in back are Concord Coach, Road Coach, Albany Sleigh, Hearse, Dump Wagon and Sheepherder's Wagon.  They're reproduced pretty small though, about 7.5" x 5".

Dave