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Title: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: marc_reusser on December 25, 2007, 01:46:43 AM
This project began by cutting up three inexpensive Grandt Line "Koppel" dump car kits that would otherwise build into these:

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The finished cars will be freelanced, but based on prototype concepts and a combination of images from period catalogs. They will 30" Gauge.

Two in progress modified dump bodies  (The painted piece, on the left, in the upper image is a larger car body from an earlier/different project, that I will be using as an example for these side dumps.)

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One of the frames:

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Test fit of a frame with one of the dump bodies:

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The coupler pockets for the cars are fabricated using Precision Scale ?Heisler Coupler Pockets?. The original plastic coupler pocket part is shown on the left. This is then made into two individual coupler pockets by cutting the center out of the original part. A hole was drilled through top and bottom for the ?pin?. A small strip of styrene was formed and glued to the underside (thinner of the two edges on the remaining parts), to create a ?buffer surface?. The edges on the part were then slightly eased and given a radius at the corners. The finished part ready for paint can be seen on the right.

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The car on the right in the image with all three cars was built to represent a "damaged" car that has been scrounged for a part or two. The coupler is missing on one end, and only the bolt remains, the door on one side is also missing, and the steel guard has been bent/damaged in an accident. The door that remains was a pain in the rear, as I want to be able to show the car in a tilted position with the door swinging free, I had to build an operating hinge for it that matches the ones on the other cars. I also had to build half a hinge on the side that is missing the door.

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One of the frames:

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Side and end of one of the cars:

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In this photo of the wheels you can see the two patterns I was playing around with. The left is the original Delrin kit wheel, and the two to the right are more "prototypical" "holed" wheels. (I went with the three hole). To clean and prep the surface of the Delrin after drilling was a major pain in the rear. They were primered with Mr. Surfacer 'Resin Primer'.

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Beginning the painting process:
The rust base color was done in multiple layers. The first coat was done with a mix of Tamiya 'Hull Red' (XF-9), 'Red Brown' (XF-64, and a couple of drops of 'Flat Black' (XF-1). The second coat was done with more 'Flat Black' black being added to the mix, and applied irregularly. The last coat was done using only 'Flat Brown' (XF-10) being irregularly from a distance of 6-8 inches, so that when it fell on the surface it would be slightly "dry" and create a surface texture.

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...a closer view

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Marc












Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: marc_reusser on January 02, 2008, 12:25:15 AM
I can't even begin to describe how I got to this point...but to do all 3 cars took about 6 hours....basically it involded lots of thin rust toned acrylic washes, some mapping with the washes, and some light rust toned washes with white pigment in them.....all dried with a blowdryer to expedite the process.

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Originally I was going to do these in "better" condition...but after looking at a good number of photos one can see that dump cars on small operations really took a beating, and seemed to have only the bare necessity of maintenance. I'll dig up the prototype pics to show the look I am shooting for....has a ways to go....just need to figure out how to get there ;D

Marc
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: finescalerr on January 02, 2008, 12:05:32 PM
Show-off! -- Russ

P.S.: Keep 'em comin'.
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: RoughboyModelworks on January 02, 2008, 01:10:22 PM
These are looking great Marc - especially like the effect on the frame and channel pieces.  Now, if I can just get you to publish this kind of material on our forum  ;) http://www.roughboy.net/index.php (http://www.roughboy.net/index.php)

Bill
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: HectorBell on January 03, 2008, 05:20:38 AM
Marc, no offence,mate, but when do you actually work/sleep/eat!? ;)
Hector ;)
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: TRAINS1941 on January 03, 2008, 07:37:16 AM
Marc

Outstanding work!
But like Hector I'm wondering when you work,sleep & eat?? ;D

Jerry
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: marc_reusser on January 03, 2008, 12:02:20 PM
Thank you guys,

;D  I always thought the hours for sleep are from 3 or 4 am, to 10 or 11 am..... ;D

....hence my disfunctionality in the corporate environment ;D

Marc
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: marc_reusser on April 07, 2008, 05:32:41 PM
Some progress on one of these also....the weathering is driving me nuts....and I am not really that sure about the results/effect....but oh well...it be what it be :-X......two more to get to this stage...and then I will be halfway home. :-\ ::)

Still need to add journal bearings, wheels, and complete the chain retention system/detail.

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End view with faded chalk marking on dump body. Still need top build latch/lever assemblies for dump body ends.

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The Frame:

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The Dump Body Interior:

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Marc

Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: TRAINS1941 on April 07, 2008, 07:16:01 PM
Marc

Glad to see you back at these.  I'd almost forgotten that you working on them.  The weathering is coming along very nicely I can't wait to see them all done and with some kind of engine pulling them.  Just an outstanding job on this project but one would expect that.

Jerry
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: marc_reusser on April 07, 2008, 11:11:44 PM
Thanks Jerry.

Yep, it has been a while since these last saw the glow of the workbench lights...heck I had to even dig back a page or two here to find the thread! ;D

They may end up just by themselves on a siding...or coupled to the tractor loco......in either case they will pretty much be static, since I never actually run anything. ;D

Marc
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: Krusty on April 08, 2008, 04:26:47 AM
Very nice. You're definitely getting the hang of this finishing business.
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: Shadow Pines RR on April 08, 2008, 08:00:05 AM
Marc,
  What kind of camera do you use when photographing your great work? I'm trying to get a good picture with my digital camera and it always come out with little detail maybe somebody can help with this problem (fyi: my camera is  a canon power shot digital) Thank you for any info...

Regards.
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: finescalerr on April 08, 2008, 12:47:57 PM
As a start, try shooting your models outdoors in sunlight. Use a tripod. If your camera has manual settings, set the f/stop to the highest number (e.g., f/9). Use the 3 or 5 second shutter delay feature when you shoot the photo (the thing that lets you shoot a self-portrait) to avoid moving the camera with your finger as you shoot. Motion will blur the photo and obscure detail. With sufficient light and a steady camera you should get better results.

Russ
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: morgan Hill models on April 08, 2008, 08:26:13 PM
Beautiful work Marc, love that rusty, grundgy, grimey look you do soooo well. Really warms the heart!! ;D
-Jon
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: marc_reusser on April 09, 2008, 01:41:16 AM
SPRR;

I am far from a competent or knowledgeable photographer....I tend to just muddle through and have learned over time what works for me. I basically shoot several different ways....depending on what I am shooting, how important the shot is (IE. is it just for a quick post, or is it for the website or a mag.)...and depending on how lazy I am.

The camera I use is an "older" (or so they mock me at the camera store) Nikon 8400, with 8-megapixels. And like Russ, I almost always shoot with a tripod, and with the the "timer" funcion, or the remote shutter release.

"QUICK SNAPPIES"

For the "quick snappie" of stuff on the bench (like the railcar photo in the Tractor Loco thread), I shoot in "Automatic", with the "Macro" setting, .JPG format,  lighting was with my workbench lights which are old 2 bulb drafting lights (easch light has a 60w incandesc. and a flourescent ring). This gives a pretty good color balance.

The recent dump car and tractor-loco pics (also just some quick shots)  were shot in natural daylight (overcast), in "Automatic" mode, with "macro" setting, .JPG format, on a curved white photo "seamless" background.

INDOOR SHOOTING:
For images that I plan on using on the website, or submitting to a mag (or that I just want to look more "professional") I shoot indoors at night (so I don't get any color conflict from sunlight coming into the space).....I use 3 500/1000w halogen worklights for lighting (1000w for primary source, 500w for secondary/fill source, and 500w aimed up at ceiling for ambient/bounced light).  I set the camera to "Manual" settings, and then adjust exposure and depth of field as needed. Then I do what is one of the most important things, and that is to properly "adjust the white balance", also rember to set the camera to "macro"  .......now the final factor that needs to be decided is "image type".....I prefer to shoot as .RAW, in the highest mode/resolution possible, as this will give me the best type/highest quality and information image to work with in a photo editing program such as Photoshop.  If I don't feel like dealing with the editing of a .RAW image (or if your camera doesn't support that), I use .TIFF format (which is still far superior to .JPG in file/information quality)

OUTDOOR SHOOTING:
Like Russ, I also tend to occasionally shoot outside in the shade or in direct sunlight, if I feel the image/model calls for it.  Here I use pretty much the exact same settings and process as described for the "indoor" shots above. Just always be sure to re-adjust/re-set your "white balance" if switching between shade and sun.  Also...when shooting in shade, make sure that there is no sunlight or specks of sunlight hitting the model or the "seamless" background (or visible anywhere in the camera lens/viewfinder) as this can throw off your color  and white balance.

Hope this helps.

Marc
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: marc_reusser on April 09, 2008, 01:46:42 AM
Thanks Jon. 

BTW. I haven't forgotten/flaked I will drop you a line in the next day or so.

Marc
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: RoughboyModelworks on April 09, 2008, 10:58:41 AM
Excellent work as always Marc...

Bill
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: Shadow Pines RR on April 09, 2008, 05:00:31 PM
Ask and thy shall recieve... Thank you Marc and Russ.  I will give it a try, dont know if I will invest into a tripod but possibley a nice cardboard box.
Regards
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: marc_reusser on April 14, 2008, 02:31:51 AM
Today was a lot of time for a small amount of progress.

Two of the cars are to receive painted on stenciled numbers. This needed to be applied prior to adding the dust/dirt weathering.

To create the numbers, I used the photo-etched brass HO number-board pieces as stencils. (they are a bit smaller than I preferred, but the smallest 1/35 ones I had were too big). The stencils were attached to each end of the dump bodies using Tamiya masking tape; then the rest of the car was masked  to protect from overspray.

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The stencils were then airbrushed using Valejo Acrylics off white. The upper portion of the stencils/numbers received more paint coverage than the lower portion.

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The Numbers after the masking and stencil were removed.

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Because at this point the numbers are to neat and white in contrast with the car (even though they are meant to represent numbers that were painted on in the more recent past). Using a Gunze 2000 grit sanding screen, the numbers were carefully sanded to give a more weathered/worn/aging appearance. The sanding also helps remove any raised edge that can occur around the numbers when using/spraying stencils.

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The finished, "screened" numbers.

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And so it continues.....


Marc


Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: azflyer2001 on April 15, 2008, 02:38:01 PM
Marc,

The dump cars look great!!! I never would have thought to use HO number-board pieces as stencils, great idea. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing.

Travis in Mesa
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: chester on June 15, 2008, 06:18:22 PM
Marc, Just wanted to share this photo I took this afternoon at the narrow gauge museum in Boothbay Maine. It was just so similar to what I've been following of your build.
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Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: marc_reusser on June 15, 2008, 11:47:20 PM
WOW!! Chester....absolutely freaking great!!.

Thanks so much for posting this...what a great piece of reference material!


Now I just need to figure out how much I need to change/modify/add to what I've done.  ::)


Really appreciate you taking and posting the pic. Thanks!


Marc
Title: Re: 1/48 Steel Side-Tip Dump Cars
Post by: TRAINS1941 on June 16, 2008, 05:17:17 AM
Chester

Great picture thanks for sharing that.  I'm sure Marc's car will now look so much like the real thing nobody will be able to tell which is which!

Jerry