Prelude:
Since the operations on my spine to enable me to walk again, I have gone through a long revalidation and have left my wheelchair behind me since August last year.
I am able to walk with a walking stick albeit a lot of pain. But I am independant again and do not mind to pay that price.
2 months ago I suffered breathing problems and received medicines. The side effects of these medicines had a negative side effect on my leg nerves. When I stopped with these medicines, the pain in my legs became less and less, to the extend that I can model again a complete evening without being distracted by the pain.
Already for a long time there have been discussions to build a 1:35 exhibition feldbahn layout between a number of friends from all over Europe.
We live in different countries, like Switzerland, England, France, Netherlands and Sweden and have met during exhibitions over the years.
Last weekend I was in Switzerland with Marcel Ackle and Alan Rees. During this weekend the basics for the layout were laid down.
Each member will build 1 module and 2 linking/support boxes. ( drawings with details will be published in a couple of days)
It will be possible to exhibit a module independant but the intention is to link as many as possible during an exhibition, in the hope that all can come.
Those that are presently not in a situation to built something will be asked to attend as operator and the good times in the evenings.
With this topic it is the intention to show you the development of this unique idea from the moment it cropped up to the first exhibition some time in 2015.
I am studying to incorporate the following :
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to be continued
Jacq
This is going to be stunning. Just go for it Jacq!!!
Ahh, been waiting to hear about advancements with this project idea ;D
Cheers,
Dan
Quote from: jacq01 on August 27, 2013, 02:16:47 AM
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to be continued
Jacq
Yes, and we know which lucky chap gets to supply the 20,000 bricks needed to construct it !
I'm rather looking forward to seeing the results of your meeting for myself ,
Nick
Jacq, I am very glad to hear your health and ability to walk are improving and the pain is subsiding. I eagerly look forward to watching the new project evolve. -- Russ
QuoteYes, and we know which lucky chap gets to supply the 20,000 bricks needed to construct it !
Nick, that is a very kind gesture.
Na.... not only the bricks I am more interested in the roof tiles and slates from you.
I'll never match the ones you showed in Adliswil.
Jacq
i really hope that your health continues to improve.modelling is a
great distraction from the problems of the world
kind regards kim
Jacq great to here that your health has improved.
The new project just sounds wonderful and will be great following this.
Maybe Nick should start the bricks now!!!! :D
Jerry
Somewhere in my pile of Things Bought On A Whim I have a Diorama Debris 1:24 brick mould - close enough?
Jacq, great to hear you are up and around, and that this is moving forward again...sounds like t will be a wonderful collaborative effort that will no doubt yield stunning results. Look forward to the progress.
I'm happy to hear of the improvements in your health! And I'm eagerly anticipating your progress on this very interesting project!
Hi Jacq,
good to hear that you are back and mobile again.
With your last layout and our talks in the "spoorweg museum" still in my mind, I can't wait to see the first result !
Welkom terug,
Marc
here the first setup with general dimensions.
Modules
The view length of a module can vary from 1,20m to 2,00m ( 2 modules of 1,00m)
The depth will be 600mm to enable a return radius at the ends of 250mm.
Height is for al modules equal.
construction details of the modules will follow this weekend.
Transition/ end box
The length and depth of these boxes is for all the same.
It takes care of a return radius of 250mm and gives a freedom of rail positions to the module front of +/- 25 mm.
This box also has some facilities to fit storage drawers/boxes.
Construction details will follow next week.
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Jacq
So, in a sense, this will be a series of three dimensional "paintings/sculptures" with animation, i.e., a train running through them? -- Russ
Yes, that is the idea.
The modules can be linked at random and availability for shows.
Every module has at the back underneath the scenery storage tracks, with the possibility to make a continuous loop.
Each module can be set up independantly.
Jacq
Quote from: finescalerr on August 30, 2013, 11:25:33 AM
So, in a sense, this will be a series of three dimensional "paintings/sculptures" with animation, i.e., a train running through them? -- Russ
Yup , you've got , Uncle Russ . All we are waiting for is delivery of five Decauville locos from Australia and we're good to go . Oh , I suppose we had better build a module or two ! My main worry is knowing what Franck is planning on getting up to .
The beauty of this concept ( I'm sure that nothing new is being done here) is that the "layout" could be set up in a number of different permutations , giving a great deal of flexibility on how it looks . There is also no real limitation to how many modules are used . The main difference , I see , to other similar projects is that there will be no attempt to unify the modules by using the same scenic materials , instead they will be separate little worlds connected by black boxes .
This project would probably never have got off the ground if it wasn't for Jacq's driving force behind it , he is the linchpin . If for no other reason that he can speak lots of languages and can communicate with everyone involved ( even the Welshman living in Switzerland ! ).
Like many people on this Forum , I'm not really into "playing trains" but something like this project is a bit more than that and should be a lot of fun ( not much point doing it if it wasn't ) . So , you are right , they will be "big dioramas with movement" .
Nick
Its an excellent concept Jacq (and crew).
One of the things that always annoyed the hell out of me with various modular groups was the drastic and scene killing breaks in scenery styles between modules. Those changes were perhaps ok when viewing individual modules, but when you step back to observe the bigger picture (which the whole bunch of modules thing is meant to achieve as a large group effort), the view is very disjointed and wrong to look at. This isolating of the scenes, as being done here, works very well to separate the stories, and also creates good flexibility depending on space available at the exhibitions and number of modules available. I can see the framing of each of these scenes also being given a very professional finish that will present very well at shows.
Keeping the concept could be a long term thing as well, especially for the modellers that might work a bit quicker...some guys might end up with several boxes, which could be swapped between various shows (which keeps the display changing and interesting), and also serve well for home layout needs.
Will watch this whole project with keen interest Jacq.
Cheers,
Dan
The Steamy Pudding layout that I am currently building is a series of linked dioramas contained in individual boxes. Each one separated by a divider that allows some flexibility but it was initially designed to be assembled only one way and is a complete circle that the viewer has to walk around. Difficult for some exhibition venues though but good fun to build. I might get to finish it in the next couple of years maybe - only been doing it for four years so far. I made the design decision right back at the beginning that if the layout had no permanent home that it needed to be stackable and in addition to the roof and sides on each module, I have also now added magnetic dust covers on the front (mainly to keep the skinks, cockroaches and spiders out). Australia is a very dusty country!
By chosing this concept, each builder is free to lay his track in depth and height. This within certain limits to suit a min radius of 200-250 mm and a height difference of approx 5-10mm. The hidden tracks in the back are built up of standard H0 track and manual points. As Dan pointed out, we have the freedom of number of modules and line up of modules pending the number and mood of the participants. The advantage of the selected dimensions is that a module and 2 boxes fit in the back of a family station wagon. It is also possible to stack the modules when more are transported, from the same area, in a trailer or small van.
Jacq
Hi Guys,
one of the key features of the new Feldbahn project is that the operating system is based on the TrainworxOz on-board battery Radio Control system. That means no track wiring for rail power, prototypical rough Feldbahn ttrackwork and no electrical connections between modules and ................................... most importantly low speed operational conditions without pick-up problems.
when it comes top operations the fun will really start since each locomotive will be totally independent and operated like the real thing, with prototype cornfield meets entirely possible.
all in all TrainworxOz on-board battery control the perfect solution, not only for the home layout but even more so in exhibition mode.
will wait in anticipation that this team in 5 countries and several continents will develop. In fact there will even be an Australian module, with a Ferry (radio controlled naturally) connecting it to Europe.
Let the fun begin.
have fun & stay cool
BernardS
Subtle Bernard, very subtle ;D
I can see your RC pieces working just nicely around this little effort.
Was looking at some of Marcel's recent work images, and if they are for this project...wow, then just brilliant.
Cheers,
Dan
Another masterpiece in the making...we are all eyes and ears down here holding our breaths ...and following with anticipation.
Abd & Erkut
PS: What on earth is ;TrainworxOz on-board battery control . Is it RC? Jacq, you know what happened to our RC in Dortmund. Is it safe?
Well......enough idle chit-chat, back-slapping, promotion, and theory......let's see some building/WIP/SBS! ;) ;D ;D
Push, push, you don't give a guy the change to present some decent drawing.
Here the first sketch of the module landscaping with trackplan.
Initially the set up was tried in a 1200mm size module.
I was not happy as the sides cramped ( compressed) the farmhouse and landscape
too much.
The plan is now divided over 2 modules of 900-1000 mm and reflects the painting a lot better.
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Jacq
Jacq, This looks like an exciting project on many fronts. Can you tell me who did the painting of the mill in your initial post, and its location, if indeed it is of a reall mill town with that nice cupola in the background. Thanks so much.
Narayan,
Quote from: nk on September 10, 2013, 08:57:40 AM
... Can you tell me who did the painting of the mill in your initial post, and its location, if indeed it is of a reall mill town with that nice cupola in the background. Thanks so much.
... sorry for interfering, but following Jacq's threads (as well) I noticed that Jacq has mentioned the name of mill before ...
Quote from: jacq01 on November 14, 2012, 03:00:34 AM
... Shortly I will start with a similar topic like the logging project, covering the building of the "Erftmühle" painting in 1:35 ...
... which seems to be located in Germany ... the painting itself is done by Andreas Achenbach IIRC ...
Cheers
Satisfactory. -- Russ
Narayan,
the painting is by Andreas Achenbach, a member of the Düsseldorfer Schule, It measures 1,65 x 2,30m und is owned by the Kunsthalle in Düsseldorf. End 2011 the painting with many other of representatives of this group were exhibited. I had an invitation for the opening but was not able to go as my wife became ill.
He made so many sketches of nearly all his watermill paintings in Grevenbroich, that the people called it "Achenbach's Mühle"
The Erftmühle is a non existing place created in the studio, but shows a good representation of the area around Düsseldorf.
The copula in the background is from a castle not far from Grevenbroich.
I live some 60 km from the place.
Jacq
Jacq and Gerald, Thank you very much for the background info on the artist and location. I work with paintings all day, so having a bit of background about the picture that formed the inspiration of the project is a good thing thing to know. And besides I have learned about Andreas Achenbach of the Düsseldorfer Schule whom I would never have known about otherwise. Thanks again.
"...The people called it 'Achenbach's Mühle'"
Let me see if I got this right: In America that would be "Achin' Back's mule", right? Well, that makes perfect sense. Why carry it all yourself if you can get a mule to help? Ol' Achin' Back was no fool.
ssuR
Quote from: finescalerr on September 11, 2013, 12:52:01 AM
"...The people called it 'Achenbach's Mühle'"
Let me see if I got this right: In America that would be "Achin' Back's mule", right? Well, that makes perfect sense. Why carry it all yourself if you can get a mule to help? Ol' Achin' Back was no fool.
ssuR
Russ ,
There is a seat warmed up next to me here . I suggest you come and fill it .
And why not? -- Russ
I have started a 1:5 scale model of the module I will build. Particullary the construction.
Unfortunately the batteries of my camera are flat so photo's will follow soon.
The layout of the module has been changed slightly to accentuate the rural character.
The O&K MD2 loco by Mark Hesketh has arrived. I am impressed by the crisp etching.
I have to get my soldering skills out of the cupboard as I haven't used it for a very very long time.
This loco will receive a chassis with RC from Bernard.
Jacq
jacq
What does a O& K MD 2 look like? is it a Mallet? or industrial locomotive? Who Is Mark Hesketh ?
excuse my ignorance, but living here in the states I am kinda out of touch with 1/35 modelers and services, since I'm building a 1/32 layout I can use all the information I can get Thanks
MPH
Here the website of Mark Hesketh
http://heskethscalemodels.com/ourshop/cat_745010-Locomotives.html (http://heskethscalemodels.com/ourshop/cat_745010-Locomotives.html)
O&K MD2 is a small "feldbahn " loco , similar to the small loco's built by Marc.
Jacq
Quote from: shropshire lad on August 30, 2013, 02:52:17 PM
The beauty of this concept is that the "layout" could be set up in a number of different permutations , giving a great deal of flexibility on how it looks ...................................... there will be no attempt to unify the modules by using the same scenic materials.
Which leaves Nick free to build what he likes best:
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All you have to do is imagine the dear little trains running behind this masterpiece.
Thanks Jacq!
yes I know this model now, sorry senior moment, I wanted one of these but he only made them in 16.5 gauge and I am modeling in 3/4" gauge 1/32-2ft
that's a small model, how all that sound and DCC going to fit inside?
this I gotta see
MPH
Hi Jacq. where is your track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnZLmBQhHcE
Good you make a 1: 5 model of your layout.
I'm curious about the picture s.
You already know what rails and sleepers there be used
John
That little loco looks great, and sure runs nice and slow!
Nice loco.
For 145 euros I would have sold you my contraption....oh that's right...you want one that runs ;D
Alas Gill, wpuld send you my 1/32 one, but it is of no use to you, as it runs on HO gauge track. ;D
The rails will be code 83 with a height of 2,1 mm. This is 0,1mm out from standard S10 rail used on " mainlines"
Sleepers will be 5,0 x 3,0 mm wood or steel as 3d printed by Daniel.
For info: http://www.feldbahn.de/ (http://www.feldbahn.de/) model tables
The O&K body is ready and I am waiting for the Chassis to arrive. photo's in daylight tomorrow.
Coming weekend I will attend the Euromodelbouw in Genk. In the same weekend there is RAMMA in Sedan and SMF Challenge in Veldhoven.
As some repairs are needed on the mill layout, most modeling time coming days will be spend on these repairs.
Jacq
Pssst Jacq ... ;)
Quote from: jacq01 on October 07, 2013, 10:55:15 AM
... The O&K body is ready and I am waiting for the Chassis to arrive. photo's in daylight tomorrow.
... need some additional O&K photos (taken in an O&K feldbahn museum) ... ?
Cheers
It has too many clamps and not enough steering wheels. How can anyone possibly drive it? -- Russ
That is a tamed loco in the zoo. ;) sponsored by a paint manufacturer ;D ;D
Here some real sample photo's:
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And the model without chassis, prior to cleaning and primer:
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Quote from: jacq01 on October 08, 2013, 06:40:00 AM
That is a tamed loco in the zoo. ;) sponsored by a paint manufacturer ;D ;D
Here some real sample photo's:
... *dang* ... I guess Marc has overdone the weathering again ... ;D 8)
BTW: Nice little machine ...
Hi Jacq,
Beautiful succeeded the loc.
looks complete.
Hi Jacq,
It is looking promissing.
BTW did you know there is a narrow gauge museum near Rijssen ?
Might be interesting to take a look for some reference.
Regards,
Marc
finally some progress:
health has improved to the extend that I can use those parts, necessary for modeling, again. :D ;)
Walking is still slow, even with a walking stick.
The loco is ready for final paint. Hairspray layer is dry.
Friday the 2 sets of tipper cars by Bernard Snoodyk and Mark Hesketh arrived. ;D ;D
I am impressed by the value for money. 3 cars per package, all brass for approx € 50.
I will post photo's as soon as my youngest son has returned the camera................... >:( >:(
Standards for the modules have been developed and will be put up here when the camera....................
Jacq
Glad you are feeling better Jacq.
I was wondering where you have been and what you were doing. Please stay well and healthy. I look forward to the photos. -- Russ
Marcel's module:
http://public.fotki.com/jacq01/dioramaplans/marcel-module.html (http://public.fotki.com/jacq01/dioramaplans/marcel-module.html)
A narrow variant with a depth of 44cm and a seperate shelf for the return/storage.
Boxes at the side can be used for return or through track to the next module.
The module has 2 sections of 1.00m forease of transport
My module has als 2 sections with a depth of 60cm and the return/storage underneath the scenery.
Jacq
After a number of times in hospital, I hope to stay out of the clutches of the care industry for a longer time.
the project has started and Marcel is busy with some buildings on his module.
In 2 weeks time I'll pick up Nick on the airport and hope to have a good time with him, Marcel, Leon and John on OntraxS.
I have started with 6 tipper skips by Bernard and have to finish painting the feldbshn loco.
Jacq
Layout construction is, of course of interest. What I think all of us consider more important is the reconstruction and/or repair of your body. Please stay healthy and I hope you feel better. -- Russ
Quote from: finescalerr on February 20, 2014, 01:24:43 PM
Layout construction is, of course of interest. What I think all of us consider more important is the reconstruction and/or repair of your body. Please stay healthy and I hope you feel better. -- Russ
Ditto!
I built the first parts for the new project.
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More photos see here:
www.feldbahn-modellbau.ch/album/v/feldbahn/remise (http://www.feldbahn-modellbau.ch/album/v/feldbahn/remise)
Regards Marcel
Beautiful Marcel!
Holy carp, that is amazing work! So real, and so artistic.
From what I have seen until now that may be some of your best work, Marcel. -- Russ
I have just decided to revise my role in this little project . To one of dogsbody ...
Mehr kaffee , Herr Ackle ?
Nick
I love the whole team work aspect of this project. And if Marcel's teaser is any indicator of what's to come, the we are in to witness something great coming together.
Wonderful artistry Marcel. Textural sensory overload. So much story just in a small section of wall.
Nice to see your name on a forum again Jacq...unfortunate to hear you in hospital again, but good also to hear you getting out occasionally as well. Always get a little bit excited when one of your postings appears here, to see where this great little project is up too.
Nick...where you been??? I'm sure you can manage better than dogsbody. Someone is also needed for the role of chief cook and bottle washer, as well as a head of heavy lifting and moving.
Enjoy the forthcoming trip to Ontraxs gents.
Cheers,
Dan
I followed the link and the photos there are truly huge. Confident modellers can show off their work full screen and you still can't tell it's a model. BTW the screen size is a 27" iMac so the image is massive. Check it out - worth the effort.
Quote from: Marcel Ackle on February 23, 2014, 01:59:11 PM
I built the first parts for the new project.
Very nice, Marcel!
Actually dogsbody is my role. Nick should at least ask before making me redundant.
More to the point... Ontraxs is the premiere for our new 1/35 project. Thousands flocked through the entrance and waited in long queues to get their first glimpse of this much heralded master work. And here is what they saw:
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Satisfactory. -- Russ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm92bFc057c&feature=youtu.be
About 5 minutes in...found some very beautifully detailed scene. Wonderfully modelled Marcel!
Dan
Oh Man!
Interest in modeling is returning after a long struggle with doctors, surgery and pain.
The final verdict is that my hands and fingers will start doing again what I want them to do, so modeling will be possible again ;D ;D
The use of my legs is a different story, normal walking or pushbiking will not be possible. I have to use a walker to get around.
During all the clinical investigations, they discovered heart problems I was not aware of. 2 long sessions in hospital resulting in tests, tests and tests. They found nothing serious......
They are not able to help with the ( neurological)pain in my legs without medicines with nasty side effects, so....................
It had a large impact on my mental resilience.
My life has settled down a bit, living the last 2 years without my wife and organising my interests again was not easy.
18-19 October show in Leuven (B) where I will see my friends again, Marcel, Alan, Nick, Ronald and John, plus many more.
I am controling and repair where necessary the modules.
Also took up the 1:35 project.
A carpenter will assemble my modules so I can start on the landscaping and buildings.
I have started soldering the skips and painting the loco's. Too long since I used the resistance soldering unit and the airbrush.
Progress will be a bit slower as usual, as I also have to take care of all the household work.
Glad I am able to return to a surroundings that appeared lost for me.
Jacq
Good to see you back. Here's hoping you can get back to a normal routine.
Take care of yourself.
Will be looking for some of the beautiful work your do.
Jerry
I was concerned about you, Jacq. I am glad you are able to model again and that you have posted something. -- Russ
Welcome back!
even though you never really left!
-Mj
Nice to see you back looking forward to your new venture
Barney
Glad to see you back Jacq! ;)
Franck
Welcome back! You were missed.