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Title: 1:35th Muir Hill rail tractor
Post by: Bernhard on December 02, 2020, 07:00:00 AM
Hello model building friends
You may have noticed that I am a fan of Fordson conversions. Today I would like to introduce you to a new project on this topic: the Muir Hill rail tractor. This is another narrow gauge critter powered by a Fordson tractor.

The Prototype












ManufacturerMuir Hill (Engineers) Ltd, Manchester, GB
Year of construction1925
DriveFordson N
Drive power20 hp
Number of gears3 forward and 1 reverse
SpeedAbout 10mph (16 km/h) in top gear
Track gauge2 ft (610 mm)
Weight4.5 t
OperationalYes
Today's locationPrivately owned by Colin Copcutt, GB

Muir Hill (Engineers) Ltd based at Old Trafford in Manchester, started in the early 1920's. Amongst other products they built rather basic petrol engined locomotives, mainly for narrow gauge. The early locos were little more than a Fordson tractor skid mounted on a rail chassis, with a chain connecting the rear axle of the tractor to the rail wheels. The simple drive concept was a real weak point. If you couldn't sweep the rail tractor at the end of the track, you had to reverse at snail's pace.
The firm was sold in 1959 to the Winget group from Rochester, Kent.

Colin Copcutt, the current owner, writes about his rail tractor with the number 110, its odyssey and its successful restoration:

"Muir Hill No.110 was ordered in March 1925 by T Day and Sons Ltd, the Ford main agent in Okehampton, on behalf of Meeth (North Devon) China Clay Company limited. The China Clay Company quarried ball clay deposits from pits in Woolladon and Stockleigh. Two-foot gauge railways were built to transport the ball clay from the pits to the works and the interchange with the standard gauge railway. More modern locomotives were purchased in the late 1940s and the Muir Hill was probably not used after their delivery.
The remains of the loco were purchased by Rich Morris in 1970 who stored it on a farm in Longfield, Kent. In 1976 it was moved to the Gloddfa Ganol 'museum' in Blaenau Festiniog and then subsequently sold on, in 1997, to the Abbey Light Railway in Leeds.
What I purchased in October 2014 was the bare frames, the buffers, four new wheels, two new axles and a box of assorted castings. A project plan was developed for the restoration of the loco, with the initial emphasis on working towards a rolling chassis. Fabricated axle boxes and axle box keep plates were designed and built, the wheels were pressed onto the axles and new springs made. In the box of castings received, there were some components which were likely to have been part of the original loco braking system. Using these as patterns, a number of new castings were made and machined. The vital parts of the braking system including the handbrake column and all of the brake actuating mechanism were missing so a whole new system was designed. A mixture of castings and fabrications were used for the operating mechanisms together with a second-hand ACME screw thread and nut for the brake screw mechanism.
A Fordson tractor was purchased, overhauled and converted to the correct specification for the loco.
The relevant tractor parts were fitted to the chassis and new drive sprockets manufactured. Drive chains have been fitted, hidden beneath the newly manufactured chain guards".

Now the rail tractor presents itself perfectly restored and operational.

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Post by: Bernhard on December 02, 2020, 07:00:45 AM
The model

Colin provided me with the main dimensions and various detailed photos of the rail tractor. With this I was able to create a first dimension sheet.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 02, 2020, 07:01:31 AM
This resulted in a 3D model with all the necessary detailed drawings for the manufacturing of the parts.

Bernhard
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Post by: 1-32 on December 02, 2020, 11:21:41 AM
Hi Bernard.
that you for a great background it is going to be a wonderful  model-1/35 scale?.
Happy Christmas.
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Post by: finescalerr on December 02, 2020, 12:20:07 PM
Please keep us up to date on your progress. -- Russ
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Post by: Bernhard on December 02, 2020, 12:46:42 PM
Yes Kim, it's 1:35th. News coming soon!
Bernhard
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on December 02, 2020, 09:59:04 PM
Wow, they did a great job restoring that loco! What an excellent subject to model.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:32:33 AM
Let's start with the frame.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:33:04 AM
The side parts cannot be made from one piece because of the pockets.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:33:30 AM
They are therefore composed of two parts.
The pockets are milled into the upper parts with a circular saw blade.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:34:05 AM
The contours of the lower parts are milled on the turntable.
Finally, the upper and lower parts are soldered together.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:34:37 AM
Front and back of the frame are 3D printed parts. This was the only way to reproduce the waffle pattern on the side kicks (unfortunately hardly visible on the photo).
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:35:03 AM
Also the buffer plates are 3D-printed, because I don't have a suitable circular saw blade for milling the slots.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:35:55 AM
The front tractor carrier is also made according to the slice principle:
Milling a profile
Cut off slice
Drilling
Ready!
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:36:40 AM
The crank guide is manufactured in a similar way.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:37:17 AM
The manufacturing of the rear tractor carriers:
First the contour of the lower parts is pre-machined.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:37:47 AM
Then the upper and lower parts are clamped together and the axle hole is drilled.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:38:23 AM
Finally, the parts are cut from the bar.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:39:08 AM
This is followed by the holders for fixing the brake shoes.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:39:38 AM
The last parts: the two coupling bolts.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 03, 2020, 08:39:57 AM
Now all parts are ready for the assembly of the frame.

Bernhard
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Post by: finescalerr on December 03, 2020, 11:49:38 AM
That must have required a few days' work. Satisfactory. -- Russ
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on December 03, 2020, 09:38:19 PM
Nice work!
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Post by: Les Tindall on December 04, 2020, 01:23:33 AM
This is incredible micro-engineering!
Les
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Post by: Barney on December 04, 2020, 10:52:37 AM
Very nice - incredible machine work
Barney
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Post by: Chuck Doan on December 05, 2020, 02:55:47 PM
Beautiful work, and a great prototype!
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Post by: Bernhard on December 09, 2020, 07:45:12 AM
Thanks for your interest!

The upper frame part is soldered together now with the resistance soldering device.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 09, 2020, 07:45:47 AM
Then the 3D-printed front and rear parts are glued on.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 09, 2020, 07:46:15 AM
This is followed by the side panels, which are also glued in place.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 09, 2020, 07:46:46 AM
Then the holders for the brakes and the lower rear tractor supports are mounted.
Now the frame is more or less ready.

Bernhard
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Post by: Hauk on December 09, 2020, 09:52:43 AM
Very nice, much inspiring!
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Post by: finescalerr on December 09, 2020, 11:34:07 AM
It's always a treat to watch your models come together. -- Russ
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Post by: Bernhard on December 20, 2020, 07:13:40 AM
The drive of the rail tractor is the next assembly.
(Photos: Colin Copcutt)
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Post by: Bernhard on December 20, 2020, 07:14:34 AM
The 3D-model.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 20, 2020, 07:15:06 AM
The wheel bearings are first pre-milled as a cross-sectional profile, ...
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Post by: Bernhard on December 20, 2020, 07:15:51 AM
... then cut into slices with a circular saw blade, ...
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Post by: Bernhard on December 20, 2020, 07:16:18 AM
... and then drilled. Done.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 20, 2020, 07:16:57 AM
The chains are etched and glued together from three layers.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 20, 2020, 07:17:29 AM
The chain guards also consist of etched parts. The sheet metal strip on top is annealed to make it easier to bend into shape.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 20, 2020, 07:18:07 AM
The individual parts are soldered and glued together.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 20, 2020, 07:18:49 AM
Holders for fixing the chain guards.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 20, 2020, 07:19:28 AM
Now the drive can be installed in the frame.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 20, 2020, 07:20:51 AM
And then the rail tractor stands on its own wheels for the first time.

Bernhard
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Post by: Barney on December 20, 2020, 01:34:14 PM
Very nice -Enginerring in miniature perfect  - are the PE chains available or did you have them made to your requirements
Barney
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Post by: Bernhard on December 20, 2020, 01:55:30 PM
Barney, I have the chain etched as needed because axle distance and number of teeth on the sprockets are always different.

Bernhard
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Post by: finescalerr on December 20, 2020, 08:56:42 PM
You are truly a master craftsman and it is a real pleasure to see your models evolve. Those etched parts are just perfect. -- Russ
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on December 20, 2020, 09:42:55 PM
Wow! Great work! Can the wheels still turn, or are they held in place by the non-functional chain?
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Post by: Bernhard on December 21, 2020, 12:31:15 AM
Thanks guys. Ray, yes the wheels can turn. The holes in the hubs of the sprockets are slightly larger than the axles. The axles are even properly sprung.

Bernhard
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Post by: Barney on December 23, 2020, 02:25:36 PM
What are the steps in making PE parts - will the company do the drawings if a "basic drawing" (freehand Drawing) with sizes is supplied - Im interested in those drive chains -I need six of various sizes for my Keystone skimmer project
Barney 
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Post by: Bernhard on December 26, 2020, 02:53:49 AM
Barney, the supplier needs a 1:1 drawing of the complete etch sheet, with front and back side.
He then etches the sheet from this.
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Post by: Bernhard on December 26, 2020, 02:54:29 AM
The chain is built from 3 layers, each 0.3 mm thick.
The hubs are turned parts that are put on separately.
I don't know if my supplier draws the etching templates himself, and if he delivers abroad (he is based in Germany). I can ask him after the holidays.
But I could make the drawing for your chains. Maybe you have a supplier near you.

Bernhard
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Post by: Bernhard on December 26, 2020, 01:28:03 PM
Barney, good news: the supplier also works with fully meshed hand sketches and delivers to England.
The supplier is: http://www.aehc.de/Modellbau1/ (http://www.aehc.de/Modellbau1/)
Email documents to Thomas Engel: CDS@AeHC.de
Please send him your complete contact information, so he can follow up if needed.

Bernhard
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Post by: Barney on December 27, 2020, 05:23:31 AM
Bernhard - thanks for sorting my PE issues  will be in touch soon - sent you an email
Barney
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Post by: Chuck Doan on December 28, 2020, 10:18:22 AM
Amazing! Fun to see how it it built.
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Post by: Franck Tavernier on January 11, 2021, 03:07:51 PM
Awesome craftsman work!

Franck


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Post by: Bernhard on January 19, 2021, 11:31:10 AM
Back to the topic: the next assembly is the brake of the rail tractor. Again, Colin Copcutt's photos provided me with valuable information.
(Photos: Colin Copcutt)
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Post by: Bernhard on January 19, 2021, 11:31:42 AM
The design: a few parts are slightly simplified so that they can be made at all.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 19, 2021, 11:32:14 AM
First, the contour of the traverses is milled on the rotary table.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 19, 2021, 11:32:45 AM
Then the parts are slotted ...
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Post by: Bernhard on January 19, 2021, 11:33:35 AM
... and finally soldered the bolts for the brake shoes.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 19, 2021, 11:34:22 AM
The lever is slotted, then drilled and cut to length.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 19, 2021, 11:35:14 AM
More small parts follow:
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Post by: Bernhard on January 19, 2021, 11:36:00 AM
I had to do the brake linkage twice because I didn't look closely enough at the photos.
Above the correct version, below the scrap.
Something like this happens from time to time.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 19, 2021, 11:36:56 AM
Parts for support and bearing the brake spindle:
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Post by: Bernhard on January 19, 2021, 11:37:25 AM
The handwheel is brass, 3D printed/cast at Shapeways.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 19, 2021, 11:37:58 AM
The brake is now partially pre-assembled. The rest can only be attached after painting.

Bernhard
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Post by: finescalerr on January 19, 2021, 01:06:39 PM
World class fabrication. -- Russ
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Post by: Bill Gill on January 19, 2021, 01:54:54 PM
Bernhard, Your work is exemplary.
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on January 19, 2021, 03:45:29 PM
Fantastic work on such tiny parts!

What I love about this forum is the wide variety of skills, methods, and materials used by the various modelers in pursuit of the same goal - creating realistic scale models.
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Post by: finescalerr on January 19, 2021, 08:36:01 PM
That gives me an idea: I'm going to ask each guy here to create a part of my next model so I won't have to build, paint, or weather any of it myself! -- ssuR
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Post by: Barney on January 20, 2021, 01:59:19 PM
I agree with all- plus a very nice piece of miniature engineering
Barney
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Post by: shropshire lad on January 21, 2021, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: finescalerr on January 19, 2021, 08:36:01 PM
That gives me an idea: I'm going to ask each guy here to create a part of my next model so I won't have to build, paint, or weather any of it myself! -- ssuR

You're getting a bit slow in your old age , Russ. You should get everyone to contribute to your next model and get them to pay for the privilege. It would be like a subscription and everyone who contributes gets to have their name included on a very nice scroll personally signed by yourself , which could then be purchased for the special introductory price of $9.99 for a limited period .

    I'm off to cast 10,000 bricks for you .
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Post by: finescalerr on January 21, 2021, 01:36:40 PM
Nick, I think I'll hire you as my business manager. -- Russ
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Post by: shropshire lad on January 21, 2021, 05:12:56 PM
Quote from: finescalerr on January 21, 2021, 01:36:40 PM
Nick, I think I'll hire you as my business manager. -- Russ

Do I get my own office with my name on the door and the key to the executive bathroom ?
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Post by: finescalerr on January 21, 2021, 09:04:30 PM
Go stand in the corner! -- Russ
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Post by: Chuck Doan on January 21, 2021, 09:14:32 PM
Beautiful work Bernhard!
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Post by: Hauk on January 22, 2021, 12:52:31 AM
You are the Metal Guru!
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Post by: shropshire lad on January 22, 2021, 01:00:51 AM
Quote from: finescalerr on January 21, 2021, 09:04:30 PM
Go stand in the corner! -- Russ

Well ,that didn't last long .
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Post by: TRAINS1941 on January 22, 2021, 05:50:05 AM
Quote from: shropshire lad on January 22, 2021, 01:00:51 AM
Quote from: finescalerr on January 21, 2021, 09:04:30 PM
Go stand in the corner! -- Russ

Well ,that didn't last long .

Do you ever sleep???

Jerry
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Post by: shropshire lad on January 22, 2021, 06:02:50 AM
Quote from: TRAINS1941 on January 22, 2021, 05:50:05 AM
Quote from: shropshire lad on January 22, 2021, 01:00:51 AM
Quote from: finescalerr on January 21, 2021, 09:04:30 PM
Go stand in the corner! -- Russ

Well ,that didn't last long .

Do you ever sleep???

Jerry

Jerry,

  You forget over here in civilisation we are ahead of you in time . Nominally 5 to 8 hours  , but in reality 50 years !

  Nick
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Post by: Bernhard on January 24, 2021, 08:42:28 AM
Thanks for your feedback.

For the tractor, I again fell back on the model from Plusmodel.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 24, 2021, 08:43:21 AM
This is now already the third model that I build. And each time I am more annoyed about certain inaccuracies of the actually otherwise good model:
The stub axles of the rear axle are crooked.
I tried to improve this by first milling the mounting surfaces in a jig and then drilling the axle holes.
The success was unfortunately only moderate.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 24, 2021, 08:43:54 AM
In addition, the fuel tank is crooked on the base body of the tractor when viewed from the front.
This can be hidden to some extent by gluing a 0.25 mm thick shim to the contact surface of the tank support.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 24, 2021, 08:44:30 AM
With a few tricks, the tractor was ready after all.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 24, 2021, 08:45:04 AM
Now all parts are ready for painting and assembly.
The primer is done with a solvent-based varnish from Mr. Surfacer, ...
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Post by: Bernhard on January 24, 2021, 08:45:40 AM
... the final painting with water-soluble paints from Vallejo.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 24, 2021, 08:46:04 AM
Now the drive can be installed ...
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Post by: Bernhard on January 24, 2021, 08:46:29 AM
... and the brake can be completed.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 24, 2021, 08:47:00 AM
The tractor is built up, ...
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Post by: Bernhard on January 24, 2021, 08:47:30 AM
... and finally the chain guards are mounted.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 24, 2021, 08:47:59 AM
With this, the little rail tractor is ready, and can be released into its natural environment.
Thanks to the support of Colin Copcutt, the model is very close to the prototype. I have therefore also deliberately refrained from aging the model, because the prototype is also freshly painted and clean. In doing so, I accept that the paint job is somewhat lacking in depth and texture.
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Post by: Bernhard on January 24, 2021, 08:48:30 AM
...
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Post by: Bernhard on January 24, 2021, 08:49:11 AM
And off we go to the next project.

Bernhard
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Post by: finescalerr on January 24, 2021, 01:33:31 PM
You turned a mediocre kit into a masterpiece. Satisfactory. -- Russ
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Post by: Design-HSB on January 24, 2021, 02:56:49 PM
Bernhard

thus the model has a certain museum character, which I consider very successful.
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Post by: Chuck Doan on January 24, 2021, 09:03:05 PM
Just a beautiful model Bernhard! Great job!
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Post by: 1-32 on January 24, 2021, 09:36:03 PM
Hi Bernard.
As another modeller is this scale range personally just great will look forward to seeing it at work.
Cheers Kim
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Post by: Franck Tavernier on January 25, 2021, 12:19:40 PM
Beautiful job Bernhard!

Franck
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Post by: Barney on January 25, 2021, 02:12:54 PM
It looks fine - loved and looked after - fresh from the paint shop
Barney
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Post by: Ray Dunakin on January 28, 2021, 09:02:54 PM
Most excellent!