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Madera Sugar Pine Lumber Company # 1 Old Betsy

Started by Scratchman, July 12, 2009, 07:36:50 PM

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Scratchman

The only drawing I was able to fine for this little loco was the one side view. I did not know the scale of the drawing or if there is any other views in the book "Thunder In The Mountains". My drawing is just a guess. I don't know what other photos are out there, this is all I have.

The wheels and the start of the frame and boiler.



My drawing with the painting by Steve Allely on the cover of the Sept/Oct 1984 Gazette.



http://www.gearedsteam.com/other/other_opqr.htm

http://www.cagenweb.com/madera/MadHistory.html

Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/

jacq01

#1
  Gordon,

  here a scan of the full page with front and rear views from the book Thunder in the mountains from Hank Johnston.
  There are also a 20 photographs showing mor or less details of the loco.

 

  Maybe someone can get you a undistorted print for you, so you can measure.

  I am looking forward to see this evolve. 

  Jacq
put brain in gear before putting mouth in action.
never underestimate the stupidity of idiots
I am what I remember.

finescalerr

Gordon, I have a copy of the book if you need the plan or some photocopies. -- Russ

Scratchman

Thank guys for your input. Russ I would love to see a better view of the two ends and any close up of the back head or cylinder area.

Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/

Ken Hamilton

Looks like you're off to another great start, Gordon.
This is going to be fun to watch.

(What did you slice to make the wheel treads?)
Ken Hamilton
www.wildharemodels.com
http://public.fotki.com/khamilton/models/

Scratchman

Ken, the wheel tread is made from Traditional ABS Round Tubing from Plastruct. "Code TB" this tube  runs from 1-1/2" to 6" O.D. I used the 2" TB 200 for the wheel treads and 2-1/4" TB 225 for the boiler.It comes in 18" length and was around 7.00 each I cut this with my Cut off saw with a 8-1/4 finishing Blade 40 Carbide teeth. The Gray in the middle of the wheels are Rings/flanges also from Plastruct "code RI" these run from 5/8 to 2-13/16"great stuff for the scratch builder.

Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/

TRAINS1941

Gordon

I thought you might rest for a bit.  Looks to be another interesting thread to follow.
And you have already started!!

Jerry
Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food?
George Carlin

Ken Hamilton

Yikes.  Mighty fine work for a big saw like that. 
Beautiful work, Gordon.  Thanks for the Plastruct info.
Ken Hamilton
www.wildharemodels.com
http://public.fotki.com/khamilton/models/

HOn3_rr

I was just looking at that cover this morning and thinking what a wonderful model this would be, and then logged on and noticed the link to 'unread post since last visit', and here was this thread.  Going to be watching this carefully..  perfect timing!!
--KP--
Life is too short to build all the models I want to.

Ray Dunakin

Very cool. Looking forward to seeing it come together.

Visit my website to see pics of the rugged and rocky In-ko-pah Railroad!

Ray Dunakin's World

Scratchman

Here are three photos of the Boiler and Water Tank. Now on to the Frame.







Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/

Ken Hamilton

Wow...is this the essence of scratchbuilding or what.
Breaking down a prototype into simple shapes, duplicated them
perfectly in scale and putting them all togther as a recognizable object.
Beautiful job, Gordon.

Between you and Chuck, we're going home.
Ken Hamilton
www.wildharemodels.com
http://public.fotki.com/khamilton/models/

Scratchman

Thanks Ken for your comments. And sometimes the shapes aren't so simple. This was my first U shape water tank.

Gordon Birrell,   I love working with Styrene.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/

finescalerr

Is this already developing into another masterpiece or what? Way to go, Gordon!

By the way, for those of you building in smaller scales, the current RMC has an article about building HO tank cars. The rivet detail on the model was unusually neat so I found the part of the article where the author explained what he did: He applied Archer rivet decals -- resin rivets on decal film. They are available in various sizes and spacings. While I haven't yet checked out Archer's website I suspect they are usable up to 1:48 scale.

Russ

jacq01

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  Gordon,

  you are going like a rocket.  We can't keep up finding those little steam critters  :D :D 

  Russ,

  the Archer products appears to offer a large amount of possiblities, nor only rivets, but also welding beads, casting numbers, etc.  Something for Marc with his militairy projects.

  http://www.archertransfers.com/catSurfaceDetails.html

  Jacq
put brain in gear before putting mouth in action.
never underestimate the stupidity of idiots
I am what I remember.