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« on: July 12, 2009, 08:36:50 PM »

The only drawing I was able to fine for this little loco was the one side view. I did not know the scale of the drawing or if there is any other views in the book "Thunder In The Mountains". My drawing is just a guess. I don't know what other photos are out there, this is all I have.

The wheels and the start of the frame and boiler.



My drawing with the painting by Steve Allely on the cover of the Sept/Oct 1984 Gazette.
 


http://www.gearedsteam.com/other/other_opqr.htm

http://www.cagenweb.com/madera/MadHistory.html

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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2009, 02:07:13 AM »

  Gordon,

  here a scan of the full page with front and rear views from the book Thunder in the mountains from Hank Johnston.
  There are also a 20 photographs showing mor or less details of the loco.

 

  Maybe someone can get you a undistorted print for you, so you can measure.

  I am looking forward to see this evolve. 

  Jacq
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2009, 02:23:26 AM »

Gordon, I have a copy of the book if you need the plan or some photocopies. -- Russ
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2009, 12:26:51 PM »

Thank guys for your input. Russ I would love to see a better view of the two ends and any close up of the back head or cylinder area.

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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2009, 01:41:01 PM »

Looks like you're off to another great start, Gordon.
This is going to be fun to watch.

(What did you slice to make the wheel treads?)
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2009, 04:30:40 PM »

Ken, the wheel tread is made from Traditional ABS Round Tubing from Plastruct. "Code TB" this tube  runs from 1-1/2" to 6" O.D. I used the 2" TB 200 for the wheel treads and 2-1/4" TB 225 for the boiler.It comes in 18" length and was around 7.00 each I cut this with my Cut off saw with a 8-1/4 finishing Blade 40 Carbide teeth. The Gray in the middle of the wheels are Rings/flanges also from Plastruct "code RI" these run from 5/8 to 2-13/16"great stuff for the scratch builder.

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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2009, 06:52:35 PM »

Gordon

I thought you might rest for a bit.  Looks to be another interesting thread to follow.
And you have already started!!

Jerry
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2009, 07:31:01 PM »

Yikes.  Mighty fine work for a big saw like that. 
Beautiful work, Gordon.  Thanks for the Plastruct info.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2009, 07:51:03 AM »

I was just looking at that cover this morning and thinking what a wonderful model this would be, and then logged on and noticed the link to 'unread post since last visit', and here was this thread.  Going to be watching this carefully..  perfect timing!!
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2009, 09:16:06 PM »

Very cool. Looking forward to seeing it come together.

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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2009, 07:00:39 PM »

Here are three photos of the Boiler and Water Tank. Now on to the Frame.







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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2009, 08:22:47 PM »

Wow...is this the essence of scratchbuilding or what.
Breaking down a prototype into simple shapes, duplicated them
perfectly in scale and putting them all togther as a recognizable object.
Beautiful job, Gordon.

Between you and Chuck, we're going home.
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2009, 11:29:56 PM »

Thanks Ken for your comments. And sometimes the shapes aren't so simple. This was my first U shape water tank.

Gordon Birrell,   I love working with Styrene.

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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2009, 02:14:45 AM »

Is this already developing into another masterpiece or what? Way to go, Gordon!

By the way, for those of you building in smaller scales, the current RMC has an article about building HO tank cars. The rivet detail on the model was unusually neat so I found the part of the article where the author explained what he did: He applied Archer rivet decals -- resin rivets on decal film. They are available in various sizes and spacings. While I haven't yet checked out Archer's website I suspect they are usable up to 1:48 scale.

Russ
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2009, 02:59:41 AM »

  Gordon,

  you are going like a rocket.  We can't keep up finding those little steam critters  Cheesy Cheesy 

  Russ,

  the Archer products appears to offer a large amount of possiblities, nor only rivets, but also welding beads, casting numbers, etc.  Something for Marc with his militairy projects.

  http://www.archertransfers.com/catSurfaceDetails.html

  Jacq
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