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« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2009, 05:20:09 PM »

Nick,

Which one is the "Rat Trap Bond"?.....am not familiar with that term.


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« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2009, 11:21:09 PM »

In a desperate serch to vindicate myself re. Nicks comment about my messily grouted wall  Wink Grin, I just had to take a pic of this wall on my ride today. This wall probably dates from around 1925-35.


What I actually found an interesting detail for future reference.....the dark weathering streaks in the second photo....note that the first and second images were taken only about 21' (7 meters) apart on the same wall....no streaking in the first, but there in the second.......why?......the streaks are due to the decomposing leaves (over years) that have been dropped on top of the wall at that location (probably also dirt/grime washed/dripped off the tree and onto the wall and washed down).

Note how the area below the 'watertable'/ledge is also darker...again from the decomposing vegetation, the accumulated grime from the upper wall section, and the splash from rain and irrigation on the adjacent ground surface.



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« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2009, 11:37:25 PM »

Here a couple more reference pics.

The first shows some of the brick degradation in the water table area.

The second is the sign at the gate...note that there are holes and cracks from a previous sign.


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« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2009, 12:00:14 AM »

Lastly I edited the sign down to remove "Pasadena" in case somebody wants to use the sign for a model.


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« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2009, 03:25:35 AM »


     great stuff,  love the very different effects of nature on such a small area.

     
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Lastly I edited the sign down to remove "Pasadena" in case somebody wants to use the sign for a model.

     I will not infringe the council's rights when using this sign??  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes    3529 is only valid for Pasadena ?  Huh Huh

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« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2009, 12:23:32 PM »

Nick,

Which one is the "Rat Trap Bond"?.....am not familiar with that term.


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  Marc ,

  What I call "Rat Trap Bond" is the same or similar to the "Ideal All-Rolok Walls" on the third page .

  This was sort of known as a "poor mans" brick bond as it used about a third less bricks in its construction and was therefore used in buildings where keeping costs down was important . It is actually an early version of a cavity wall because there are voids within the wall . This , ironically , probably meant that the houses kept warmer than an equivalent sized solid brick building because the air in the cavity helped slow down heat loss . I know of two houses that were built like this . I will try and get some photos , maybe next week .
  I have used this bond on a couple of occasions when I have built retaining walls . They are more decorative than structural as they are backed up by concrete blocks .They work best when the bricks have a roughish texture on the side that is visible .
   The wall in the photo is part of my front wall . The dark bricks are old paving bricks and the wall is curved .
  This is one of my favourite bonds ( how sad can you get , having favourite bonds) because it is not often used and if the right bricks are used can look very effective .

   Betcha wish you hadn't asked now ,


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« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2009, 02:06:32 PM »

Jacq:
I am sure the city won't mind. Wink  Yes the ordinance is/was for Pasadena only....but what the ordinance is about is unknown to me. (Must be something regarding trespassing in city property Wink Grin).......a search through the Pasadena Minicipal Codes did not turn up an ordinance by that number......probably is one almost as old as the wall, and has since "fallen off the books".

I thought it was a neat sign, because here you typically see these types of signs in black & white, or red & white,...so the blue was different.


Nick:
Thanks for the clarification. We have had to use a similar construct (cavity wall) so that we could fill the core with reinforcing bar and cement. (Seismic requirements here in shakey California).  I like your wall.....wish there was more of it......I do however note that you did not use any 'king' or 'queen' closures at the corner on the right.  


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« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2009, 03:55:50 PM »

Marc,

   Have a look at the drawings that you posted . No King , Queen or even JOKER closers on those walls either , just two headers next to each other. The wall I posted a photo of runs into another wall that is laid differently and also what will eventually be a gate post . The bricks were laid so that the headers were in the centre of the bricks above and below , and the end bricks were just the size of the gap that was left .
  There is quite a bit more of the two walls in this bond , but much is covered by vegetation . I'll have a go at taking some more photos tomorrow .

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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2009, 02:17:17 PM »

Marc ,

   Here is a photo showing "the bigger picture" of my front wall .

   One day I'll finish it ,

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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2009, 03:30:01 PM »

Lovely.

I notice you have the closures on the house Wink


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« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2009, 04:33:45 PM »


   did you use Silverwood Huh

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« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2009, 01:33:19 AM »

Lovely.

I notice you have the closures on the house Wink


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  It's not the house . It's my garage/workshop/playroom/sanctuary.
  Different brick bond ... different use of bricks . Closers are used on English bond but not on Rat Trap .


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« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2009, 09:25:06 PM »

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I got my samples of PBLT precision board while I was in Salt Lake. They gave me a 3 1/2" x 5" sample of every weight, and then they told me the cost!@#$. They said I could get any thinkness but it would be hard to ship in thiner sizes. I am going to use some of my samples for foundations and columns. I am still looking for something other than blue foam. I am planning on making a hot wire table to cut blue foam into different thickness, I have the wire and the electrical source all i need is some time to build it. I will post a picture when done. I will also post the walls when they are done, I have two cut, and two to go.
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« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2009, 02:30:11 AM »

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« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2009, 03:00:50 PM »

Yo Unc!
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