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Author Topic: 5/16" or 8mm O.D. Steam gauge face?  (Read 7969 times)
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« on: September 01, 2014, 11:25:18 AM »

I am puttering along on the 1/16th Shay.
Once I accomplish something worth sharing I will do so.

In the mean time I need to create the artwork for the steam gauge face.
It needs to be 5/16" or 8mm (5/16 is preferred).
Searching the 'net provided no good images.
I also know printing it out on my home printer is not good enough.
I was thinking of printing a photograph scaled to the right size to keep the quality up.
I hate to buy a set of decals for one gauge

Any suggestions, ideas or a good image and how to use it?

-Marty
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2014, 12:49:52 PM »

Marty, I have had good luck with drawing the item several times oversize and then reducing it to scale on my printer.  Print on low gloss photo paper.
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2014, 02:29:50 PM »

Try the Gn15 Tome -issue 6 - May 2007      http://tome.gn15.info/06_May_07.pdf
lots of nice gauge faces
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2014, 05:40:07 PM »

Barney,
Thanks! Those are great
But unfotunately they look like crap when i print them.
I even tried at 50%...?
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2014, 06:11:45 PM »

Hello Marty,

I am a lurker and have been following your Shay project with great interest. A couple of years ago I etched a full size gauge face for a Lombard Log Hauler. This was an exact copy of an original. Other than the Lombard text this is a typical Ashcroft locomotive etc. gauge face and measure 6-13/16" O.D. I created the artwork in AutoCAD. It would be very easy for me to modify it to be a "generic" gauge face and scale it to meet your needs if you think it would work for you.

If your interested I can send you a PDF or JPEG.

Best regards,

Terry

Here is the finished etched gauge face:
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2014, 08:38:20 PM »

And..... here is the art work cleaned-up so its a generic locomotive gauge face.

The original I had to go-by was un-finished brass but I have seen quite a few that were silvered brass (like a clock face) with black letters. Based on the size of the original plate scaling it to 1/16 would make it about 7/16" O.D. That little bit of increased size might help with the printing.

I hope this helps!

Best regards,

Terry

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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2014, 09:53:58 PM »

Marty, what resolution is the image you're using? What kind of resolution can you print at?

When I have to print out a very small, detailed image, I make a copy of the original image and reduce it so that it retains the highest possible resolution. (This takes some fiddling with the options.) Then I print as if I were making a photographic-style print, with the printer set for "best quality".

Of course there are still limits to how well a cheap printer such as mine can reproduce something very tiny.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2014, 05:52:01 AM »

TERRY!!!!!!!!!!!

THAT IS GREAT!

I was initially thinking you did the gauge in scale (not 1:1)
I guess I need to mess with my printer instructions....

Mr. Potato Head is working on a decal for me so may be this will work for him, and save him some trouble!

Thanks a lot!

-Marty
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2014, 07:04:29 AM »

No problem Marty,

If you go the decal route you could also do a real silvered face if your gauge body is brass. Its a simple process that involves rubbing on a solution which leaves a microscopic layer of electroplated silver.

http://www.jaxchemicals.com/jaxshop/shopexd.asp?id=76

Here is a motometer face I etched and silvered a while back.

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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2014, 07:50:07 AM »

Bin your printer - something wrong - I only have a Cannon Pixma iP4700 printer and reducing the size of the large face to 5mm across is still readable !
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2014, 01:33:17 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2014, 03:54:31 PM »

I can print them, as far as the black type and white face that's easy, for the brass face I can lay down gold first then print black, but I think it would work better if the decal was clear and put over a brass disk, oh well he'll have to play with it, it's the details he's good at
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