Maden.. which means Mine in Turkish ...is actually the name of the town which dwells in mining in the southeast of Turkey...is about to become our next project.
A couple of snapshots of the town:
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Erkut
Looks great! Love those stone bridges.
That sounds exciting, Erkut. Will you model the town above the tracks in the first pic?
Yes we are Frederic, infact the layout will be in two sections; the town above the station complex and the mine itself which will be full of surprises. ;)
Erkut
Abd and Erkut,
a very nice choice. Not too large, many shunting possibilities and not too overwhelming mining facilities.
Please spend plenty of time to work out the storage and fiddle yards to enable a good handling of trains.
Jacq
Oh, you haven't built it yet? I thought the photos were of the completed layout. -- ssuR
Some more pictures,
we donot forget the antic monuments that there is a copper mine worked in BC 9000 u ll find one picture below
pls once more check the bridges lot of sources for us
one of them typical midibus and one man walking on rails here is Maden Turkey all Legal,if ended by casualty we going to say Destiny!!.
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commenced by paperworks lokhaus..
regards
A.Usta
hi erkut
big project what scale are you going to use?
do you live close by ?
i checked out the location on google earth it is a very rugged area a good source of local stone.the location for a model is good as there are tunnels on either end of the yard[there are a lot of tunnels on this section of line].is the rail line of stratigic value as it seems to be going in the direction of iran ,iraq and syria.personally i find this area of the world very interesting [no i don,t work of australian military intellegence but sometimes i think i am james bond]
kind regards kim
Hi kim,
The layout will be HO, just like Selcuk, estimated 11 meters long.
Its the landscape that fascinated us, very rugged and baren, opposite to the layouts that we usually see covered with green trees and foilage. Rough terrain it is, Abd's favorite.
Its a copper mine and the railway has no significant value.
Brgds
Erkut
Please show us your progress on the engine house. -- Russ
Are those old photos of the prototype, or are they still using steam locomotives?
Quote from: Ray Dunakin on January 11, 2013, 12:53:10 PM
Are those old photos of the prototype, or are they still using steam locomotives?
Ray, the steamers are all history now, infact the last batch was pulled out of service in the 1980's. Photos depicts the 1960-1970's.
Erkut
Ok Gents here we go.
If its a mining layout you need mechanical loco's pulling the mine tippers. Our extensive search yielded to two kits of British origin from Nigel Lawton.
They arrived:
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However panic struck us....they are micro small :o
Kit's contains etched brass body parts, etched nickel-silver chassis, cast exhaust and radiators and finescale wheelsets.
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will you please check out the size of the motor:
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the actual size of the loco's is as on the boxes: 34mm (W) x 60mm (L) x 32mm (H)
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Constructing these kits requires a lot of precision and micro surgery.....I'm chickening out....and passing all these to our team member Aykut....who is heating his iron.....I promised to do the paint and weathering.
Signing off.
Erkut
Wow, that's tiny!
I have seen larger bacteria. -- Russ
Erkut,
you might want to consider Busch's new Feldbahn system. I have been experimenting with it a little. It runs on a modified Z-track and might lend itself to some kitbashing with those beautiful Lawton kits.
Here is some more info.:
http://www.busch-model.com/download/prospekte/2012/2012-feldbahn.pdf
Thanks Christian,
They look good and with a little bit of weathering will perfectly do the job.
These will be our plan B if Aykut fails to construct the above kits.
But hush hush at the moment.....I'm a bit of masochistic in character and want to torment him ;D ;D....he doesn't have to know at this stage.
Erkut
Micro surgery on the kits have started;
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...I feel sorry for Aykut ;D
Erkut
That looks challenging. Even with the precision of photo etched parts it would be hard to solder everything in exactly the right place. -- Russ
Those bits do look rather small... but then compared to a ladies Swiss watch, they are positively huge.
Michael
Progress is indeed slow, Aykut is about to flip his mind;
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Abd and I are doing a lot of research on the town and we came up with a lot of interesting facts and figures. The town was rich in copper and chrome. Chrome being the main ingredient of steel & stainless steel production.We found out that the Germans were quite active in the area specially during the war and contributed a lot to the mine and town itself....as we dig in it gets interesting.
anyway the station plan and the cable system built by the Germans;
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Erkut
Latest progress so far;
Motor mounted;
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..and on to the body;
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Erkut
Looking great Erkut, if this is your first with brass it looks even better. I have one of those lying around and never got the courage to start on it.
I don't think I've seen a friction drive like that before.
Contrary to Selcuk, before hammering in on to the layout, we started doing things in backward order, i.e,the loco's of that era. One is the GE U18C diesel.
Abd's on to it, progress;
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Erkut
Nice photo etching!
Aykut's nearly finished....
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....I asked him if he tucked in a speaker and digitized it......and quickly took cover in the bunker. ::)
Erkut
Very cool PE work.
He has now got the feel of it..... second one almost ready;
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Erkut
Nice. -- Russ
Cool. Those are HO scale, right?
Quote from: Ray Dunakin on March 06, 2013, 07:24:09 PM
Cool. Those are HO scale, right?
Yes they are Ray...infact HOe, 9mm I think.
Finally I got my hands of filming these little critters in action. We borrowed N scale rails from a friend and found a DC supply unit to test them vigorously.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlrBE5NEwD4
My honest opinion is, although they are nice kits I have my doubts of how they will perform in exhibition environments....its their endurance coefficient that bothers me.
Will they be able to take the stress of running continuously is my question...pulling those tippers?
If instead of relying on a rubber thingy contact with the motor to turn the wheels it would've been better to use a kind of a gear mechanism....anyway that's my opinion......now on to weathering them...
Erkut
Erkut,
please let me give you the same advice given before by Christian: Try the Busch Feldbahn system. It is running slowly on Z gauge 6.5 mm which is much closer to 600 mm gauge at the widespread prototype. Of course I don't know which gauge there was at the place. A magnet at the locos and metal plates in the rails provide good driving quality. A friend of mine has one and I was amazed how convincing it worked. Disadvantage: It runs at one speed only. Obviously you may even let it run on different speeds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKOsL5wdYQo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKOsL5wdYQo).
Volker
Hi Volker,
I'm about to weather these critters and loosing confidence in them day by day. Its the driving mechanism that bothers me:
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If the motor doesn't sit tight it turns idle, if too tight doesn't turn the rubber wheel. Too much precision...not good for exhibition environments.
I've checked the Busch system and it looks Ok apart from the loco which appears toy like honestly. But with a bit of weathering I believe we can overcome that. Abd & Aykut are travelling to Dortmund Fair in a couple of days so they will have plenty of time to check out the Busch system.
Erkut
Hi Erkut,
Perhaps you can even track the drives of the bushveld use for your brass models.
There are the Busch 12199 Feldbahn (http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/produkt/Busch/44-15-0-189209-025004-0-0-0-0-2-0-grp-de-p-0/ein_produkt.html) drive unit to be rebuilt.
With a Heißwolf SFR 300 throttles (http://www.modellbahn.heisswolf.net/html/fahrregler_sfr300.html) the web then you can also glide smoothly.
But there will also be a DCC module of Busch as throttle (http://www.busch-model.com/online/?rubrik=14&topnav=3&art_id=12390&sprach_id=en) for 5 sections.
Or build a new chassis.
Have fun with your project
Dear Erkut,
sorry to hear you are having trouble getting your loco to run well. I have built 4 of these for clients and they all run really well. Looking at your photograph you have removed the motor tensioning etch and not built the rear motor mount correctly. Note that the chassis should look like this...
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When built thus the motor cannot move longitudinally and you have a spring that can be used to tension the motor against the O ring friction drive. A simple solution would be to mount the motor in a tube that is soldered at the back end of the motor and maybe some elastic to tension it against the friction wheel at the front. A rubber band around the whole chassis would probably suffice.
Hope this helps. Also Nigel is very good at post sales support should you need it
Kind regards
James
Hey Guys,
Its been a while that we haven't posted anything regarding MADEN. We were I guess far too busy in our daily lifes, however here is the latest update;
The critters are finished;
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there is now a new player in town, Abd's diesel electric DE 20000 series brass loco;
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The team traveled to MADEN for research purposes and photographed the area, and would you believe, in a cab of a DE 22000 (dead Jeolous);
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The now deserted mine entrance;
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..the mine cars
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...and the tipper
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prepare yourselves for a wild ride in the wilderness;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNB213NHfmQ
the tipper still works after all these years;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bLUhfWV-Fk
Erkut
Looks like it was a terrific trip. Nice photos, too. Thanks! -- Russ
What a wonderful place Maden looks to be. I can see now where you get your inspiration from.
Great pics! That little mine loco is an amazing piece of work. It's hardly bigger than an insect!
The Maden depot is beautiful.
QuoteMy honest opinion is, although they are nice kits I have my doubts of how they will perform in exhibition environments....its their endurance coefficient that bothers me.
Will they be able to take the stress of running continuously is my question...pulling those tippers?
On my H0 Dreimühlentalbahn, the narrowgauge locs gave a lot of problems. in the workshop they ran alright at slow speed, but under exhibition circumstances mostly contact problems occured approx 1 to 1,5 hours after opening time. In these small loco's minidecoders ( Lenz and Kuhn) were fitted. because of the contact problems these decoders did not last long. So it became a static feature. >:(
Jacq
As much as I like these little critters I agree with you Jacq and thats why we are shifting towards Busch's feldbahn system.
Erkut
Are those minuscule critters incomplete; will they receive more detail and finish? Or do I understand from the above comments that you will replace them with something that better exemplifies your talent? -- Russ
They work alright Russ, no problem there.Check out the above film.Its that they are too delicate to perform in exhibition environments. You need something more robust that will not let you down while spectators are watching. I do not want to use the hand of god during the show if something goes wrong. 3 of these will be working on the layout continuously....we simply do not want to take that chance.They will be static models next to the mine entrance.
Shows are different. I know better then anybody else. During the first day at Dortmund show something horrendous happened to me. I was controlling the loco's with our handheld radio controller. Suddenly a steamer started to move out of my control increasing its speed...then the diesel...as if someone else was controlling them...total mayhem ....people are watching....someone took the photo of that incident...me trying to control the freaked out loco's;
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lesson learned never use radio controllers in exhibitions that have a lot of radio interference! We brought the main controller upfront and carried on.....so I won't take my chances on these critters.
Erkut
No worries - things can-not get any worse - or can they ? just keep taking the tablets .
Barney
first 2 in stereo
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I presume this is the dip or should it be dunk ? in Humbrol paint approach ?
Lovely rendition of oil and grease stains ;D
Barney ,
I'm impressed . Your work is coming along in leaps and bounds and your paint finishing is superb . I reckon even Chuck could learn a thing or two from you . And your politically correct portrayal of the Elephant Man as the driver is pure genius .
Who says we are all hyper critical on this Forum ? We know when to give praise when praise is due .
Nick
So do ya wanna sell it , Barnicle ?
Hi all
Education calender just commenced,Bells rang for me
,project vitalization date will be 1940's under management of German goverment
supplying German pots and pans factories chrome and copper :))
here few pictures of HO works
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blade turns and cutting thin balsa
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regards
A.Usta
Can you tell us a little more about the ovens?
QuoteCan you tell us a little more about the ovens?
U catched the secret detail..
In those years lots of diesel loko accidents and lack of spare parts in Turkey
they use boilers of non operating steamers..
regards
A.usta
Nice. Are the bricks around the boiler hand painted? If so, you must have a much steadier hand, and better eyes, than me!
HO scale, huh? Rather acceptable. Too bad school will interfere with your modeling time. -- Russ
Quote from: BKLN on September 20, 2013, 11:01:12 AM
Can you tell us a little more about the ovens?
Its actually a boiler house creating steam to run the wheel configuration next door which in turn will operate the elevators of the mine.
Erkut
Quote from: Ray Dunakin on September 20, 2013, 07:20:20 PM
Nice. Are the bricks around the boiler hand painted? If so, you must have a much steadier hand, and better eyes, than me!
Ray,
Abd has a way in filling the gaps between the bricks. The wall is plaster. He paints the whole wall red first. Then seals it with matte varnish. Next he uses grey color oil paint and covers the whole wall with it again. This time he uses a cloth to wipe out the excess gray from the surface leaving the grey filling between the bricks...voila!
Erkut
Nice looking work!
Here is another one from Abd;
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Erkut
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Maden loco shed in 1978
today Maden loco shed,R.I.P we have few stones back.
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more workshop for Maden loco shed
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doors are ready
continue
regards
a.usta
Nice work. Thanks for posting. -- Russ
Very nice. The prototype was certainly an interesting place, it's too bad the engine house is gone now.
Excellent work, Abd.
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finally I am on working Maden trainstation
piece would be on board 80x52 ,when details will complete
will exhibit in transportation museum for 6 monts,
t4 we would inform the visitors for our new projects
regards
a.usta
Beautiful. Thanks for posting. -- Russ
Stunning! For a moment I thought that was a prototype photo.
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A kind of brick in Turkish calling Briket
here above a ruin building in Maden
more pictures,Detailing works almost half..
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regards
a.usta
Most satisfactory. -- Russ
Really cool!
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Dapol turntable about 8 euro use few plastic parts and circle rail
here pictures narrating how to do handmade turntable
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stones all ceramics
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washing water base black paint
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after oilbase paints and finally pigment
regards
a.usta
That turned out great, very well done!
Thank you for posting those photos. Nice work. -- Russ
That does look good!
Great work. What was the use of the two wooden parts extending from either sides of the central stone pivot block? Were they aimed at helping centering?
Hand made,doors and dumper functional opening-closing
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regards
a.usta
You are getting better and better......................
Will it be ready for OntraxS 2017 ?
My modeling is non existing anymore. Troubles with my legs make it hard to stand up freely and my hands are not always able to do what I want.
Will contact you soon.
Jacq
The gondolas look very good. Thank you for keeping us up to day.
Jacq, I'm very sorry to hear about your physical problems and your inability to model. Maybe it's time to stop being an athlete and become the coach.
Russ
Very nice string of cars!
Jacq, I too hope you get better.
Quote from: jacq01 on July 27, 2015, 09:18:12 AM
You are getting better and better......................
Will it be ready for OntraxS 2017 ?
My modeling is non existing anymore. Troubles with my legs make it hard to stand up freely and my hands are not always able to do what I want.
Will contact you soon.
Jacq
We wish you soon healty days,
I hope ,will be ready for Ontraxs 2017,than Dortmund.
We glad to see you with us in Ontraxs 2017
regards
A.Usta&Erkut
Nice work.