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Title: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on May 05, 2011, 06:45:40 AM
I would like to introduce to my model "Klosterstollen" here.
My role model is a former coal mine, the decades after its closure, as a new visitor mine emerged.
So I have a real role model, in the immediate vicinity, of where I live.
Also, it looks to date from my point of view not as romantic as some years ago.

(http://design-hsb.de/berggl03.jpg)

This is thus the idea for my model on a scale of 1:22.5.
So I would start with the current progress at my "Klosterstollen" monastery tunnel model.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/klosterstollen1101.jpg)
Meanwhile, I'm almost 9 feet grating manufactured and installed.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/klosterstollen1102.jpg)
Now is the revision of the wall connections on how to see clearly needed.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/klosterstollen1106.jpg)
Of course, even the missing handrails on the stairs.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/klosterstollen1107.jpg)
Today was even a first impression of my model.

Gladly I will tell more if you wish.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Frederic Testard on May 05, 2011, 02:16:59 PM
I like it, Helmut. The last shot is very nice.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: artizen on May 05, 2011, 03:31:27 PM
Love these large scale prototypes. Always good to see another model from that other forum on here. The track particularly is very well modelled.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: W.P. Rayner on May 05, 2011, 10:11:15 PM
Welcome to the forum Helmut. Interesting concept and we'd certainly like to see more as you progress. I agree with Ian, the trackwork is nicely done. It's always hard to model irregularities in trackwork and still keep it functional.

Paul


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on May 05, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
Looks good! I like the brickwork. Are the handrails made of brass?


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Mr Potato Head on May 05, 2011, 10:33:55 PM
I like the hammer insignia on the gate! Very cool
MPH


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: fspg2 on May 05, 2011, 10:47:14 PM
@Helmut   Be welcome! I am glad you to see here. Nice that you also show here your project.
@Ray  Here (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buntbahn.de%2Fmodellbau%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D4144) Helmut described the production of his railings.
It´s also worth to look at Helmuts web page: click (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.design-hsb.de/&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhj-94n2HpGZjvciLK43aLL42C2KoQ)
I'm just waiting to see your continued progress!

Frithjof


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on May 06, 2011, 01:26:06 AM
Thank you all for your interest.
Since track and tunnel once the most interest have caused, I would like to proceed.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/berggl08.jpg)
I started my model with the portal to the tunnel.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/klosterstollen1111.jpg)
Model door to the mineworkings.
The left wall is primed and painted the right wall is already finished.

Everything to me looks like stone, is the model of medium density fiberboard glued wood.
The material is like cardboard and fixed it there with us in hardware stores.
The stones are pre-milled by a CNC machine in the contour.
I then reworked the surface with an 80-year-old dental machine dental bur.
A Dremel would of course go, but so goes the old dental machine.
Then the walls were then painted by hand with acrylics.
The door can be opened in the model by 2 servo motors.
The goal has been soldered together from various brass sections.
The insignia of mining “Schlegel und Eisen” (hammer and chisel) I drew in Corel and etched.

Here are 2 little videos about the gate.
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/6652541/Einfahrt_in_den_Klosterstollen
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/6617239/Modelltorsteuerung_mit_Servos
In the video you can see that all tracks can be driven properly.

The points have motor drives.
My goal is for all presentations without the intervention from above can operate.
Such animated features to cause me great pleasure and which I have of course even more on the layout.
Did you like to report I even more?

The grids are machined from solid brass, which was cheaper for me as they put together from individual profiles.
(http://www.design-hsb.de/gelaender 05.jpg)
I have an old CNC engraving machine used and so I can make all the milling work well yourself.

On the whole, even make me very important, as models in this scale for a mine train is not for sale.
But the journey is the goal and our hobby.
So I hope to find in this forum even more like-minded.
I like the place more emphasis on quality in modeling.
In order to show you this, I will also try as much as possible to publish new pictures.
I hope you can understand my Google-supported English.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on May 06, 2011, 02:09:58 AM
Your English is easy to understand, Helmut. Your modeling is even easier to understand! Nice work. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: mad gerald on May 06, 2011, 02:26:49 AM
Helmut,

nice to see that you are going to contribute your modelling work here too ... 

Kind regards


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: chester on May 06, 2011, 05:54:13 PM
I like this very much, but what I like even more is what you said:  "the journey is the goal"  Indeed.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on May 06, 2011, 10:15:10 PM
Very interesting work, thanks for posting it. Oh, and welcome aboard!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: marc_reusser on May 09, 2011, 04:59:45 AM
Beautiful work, Helmut. I really enjoy seeing how you go about fabricating some of this. I look forward to seeing more of your work.


Marc


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on May 09, 2011, 04:07:00 PM
Gladly I will tell more about my model.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/gitterroste00.jpg)
Before the tunnel, the ditch is covered with grates as you can.

How many of you ever thought about how to replicate these grids.

Here's my solution:

(http://www.design-hsb.de/gitterroste01.jpg)
I designed etching plates containing the longitudinal and transverse strips.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/gitterroste02.jpg)
After etching, the strips are rotated by 90 °.
Then can be arranged into two parts.
Once soldered with a soldering iron around it.
Thereafter, the grids are drawn off.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/gitterroste04.jpg)
My grates are made of nickel silver, and thus actually been so natural.

The figures of the miners are, of course not to buy and are therefore self-made.
Of course, a Bergman's all in a clean white suit to the mine.
So that the shoes are clean, my small miners have also got a boot scrubber.

The little studs on the side used to serve as access to technology, the Turntable of it.
Again, a Bergman is looking after what is left of left.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/klosterstollen1108.jpg)
The wall has collapsed, allowing the spectators cheering from the outside to look on.
The mining light can of course be turned on.
A servo motor, the head of the Bergman is movable.
Click here (http://www.myvideo.de/watch/5790944/Kleiner_Bergmann_im_Klosterstollen) to view a small video.

As you can see, for me there is still a lot of work, until I reached the standard of you.



Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on May 09, 2011, 10:45:14 PM
Those grids are amazing. I could use some like that for the walkways on my bridges.

Are the bricks all individually set? Did you make the bricks or buy them?



Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: artizen on May 09, 2011, 11:20:29 PM
Yes there's definitely a market for good looking grids!

Amazing attention to detail.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: marc_reusser on May 10, 2011, 12:40:04 AM
The grates are great! ;D So much better than just the typical flat PE often used for such items.

Marc


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on May 10, 2011, 02:03:27 AM
Correction to your post: You already ARE at the level of others on this forum. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: fspg2 on May 10, 2011, 03:00:01 AM
´As you can see, for me there is still a lot of work, until I reached the standard of you.

Helmut, ... that´s the first time I can´t understand you ;)

.... or, is is a little bit of fishing for compliments?

You are quite right here!

Frithjof


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on May 10, 2011, 06:25:06 AM
Oh no, Frithjof;
I made this picture and wanted to show how I make the base plates for the railing.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/klosterstollen1112.jpg)

Then I saw my bungling, I had not seen with the naked eye despite glasses.
Yes such a camera image is just merciless.
Russ so I came to my thoughtful award.

But back to the grids.
(http://www.design-hsb.de/klosterstollen1113.jpg)
I draw the individual blades simply reduced to scale with CorelDraw.
Then I send the data to a company for a friend of the etching technique has and get back the finished parts.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/MauerOstseite03.jpg)
Ray you asked me but even after the stones.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/MCiHO09.jpg)
The course I own on my CNC engraving machine.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/Mauerstreifen 01.jpg)
Either I engrave all the walls are so interlinked that I can connect them.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/Wand West 03.jpg)
Stiffeners or individual from which I can even create curved walls.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/klosterstollen1114.jpg)
The coloring is done with acrylic paints with a brush.
Where is the red color of the brick can well afford with a rubber roller.
The intricacies and the aging but is in any case with a brush.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: eTraxx on May 10, 2011, 06:54:46 AM
Excellent work. I was curious and tracked down your Engraving Plotter ..

http://www.mimaki.co.jp/english/ip/3d/me/me.pdf

Found it online for $690

http://prima-jaya.com/products/Mimaki-Modeling-Machine-ME%252d500.html

Love this stuff!! :)


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on May 10, 2011, 07:24:01 AM
Hi Ed,
only the plotter alone is unfortunately not yet you need a good software.

I cannot free or cheap software known a driver for ME has MIMAKI.

Such engraving machine but gets very encouraging, as signs are now laser cut.

I use Eurocut Professional (http://www.eurosystems.lu/index.dml?sprache=eng)

Here are 2 pictures with examples of parts that I created on the machine.
Even if it is OT at this point something.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/xrotteile07.jpg)

(http://www.design-hsb.de/xrotteile10.jpg)


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: lab-dad on May 10, 2011, 09:25:44 AM
Quote
(http://www.design-hsb.de/xrotteile07.jpg)

(expletive) deleted!  :o :o :o :o :o

AMAZING! :o :o :o
That is BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
more information please!!!!!!!!
-Marty


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Chuck Doan on May 10, 2011, 10:50:00 AM
Great work Helmut! Technology is changing so much in modelling.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Mr Potato Head on May 10, 2011, 04:19:05 PM
who said life was fair? becasue it's not! Nice
Gil
your new BFF


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on May 11, 2011, 12:08:54 AM
Hi every body,

(http://www.design-hsb.de/klosterstollen1115.jpg)
I promise I will write from my CNC brass mine early next month when I'm back from vacation.

Image added


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: JohnP on May 11, 2011, 11:07:46 AM
I am so happy there are people who still work like craftsmen. One would think the manual, creative hobbies are dying out.  But this work by Helmut proves otherwise. The quality has never been higher.

Technology does help- the engraving machine is used in a very effective way. I can understand how the bricks and walls are made.

Helmut, how did you make those beautiful locomotive parts?

John


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on May 11, 2011, 12:08:44 PM
Hi John,
Thanks for the recognition, but also I would like to learn more about the artificial aging of you.

The locomotive is the result of a change in PE set before me.
I received 2 sets at that time and also built two locomotives from it.
(http://www.design-hsb.de/schalkers12.jpg)
A locomotive I have given to Marcel here from the forum.


All that can be seen with me, is it yourself or at least from a kit that I change emerged.

The engine driver was out of a car mechanic kit.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/lokfueh03.jpg)
The figure actually knelt in front of the car and changed the wheel

(http://www.design-hsb.de/lokfueh06.jpg)
The change took place with these tools and the 2 components plastic.

All figures are also still real examples from the real bill.
(http://www.design-hsb.de/steigerhsb01.jpg)
That's myself

The locomotive dcc receiver and so hard, not only the lights but also the pit light of the miner can be switched.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on May 11, 2011, 02:17:54 PM
Helmut, you look very realistic. Your parents did an excellent job of modeling you. -- ssuR


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on June 20, 2011, 01:26:48 AM
I'm working on another detail in a wheelbarrow.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/schubkarre03.jpg)

It was formed from a nickel silver set.
Now I have to make handles and natural aging.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Malachi Constant on June 20, 2011, 01:44:34 AM
Helmut --

That's a wonderful little wheelbarrow, full of character.  Lots of fun watching you develop a scene that you know so well.

Cheers,
Dallas


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Frederic Testard on June 20, 2011, 03:22:57 AM
The detailing and finish of this wheelbarrow are very nice, Helmut.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on June 26, 2011, 12:36:09 PM
Meanwhile, the wheelbarrow has also received islets and the last piece of wall was also designed in different colors.

(http://design-hsb.de/schubkarre04.jpg)


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on July 20, 2011, 01:18:00 AM
It goes on in my coal mine.

Once it was the diorama to decompose further.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040702.JPG)
Cover plate removed for better access

Where I was at it, I've also done the same time a picture from below.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040706.JPG)
Diorama from below.

The reason for this workthe pivot platform is that I want to integrate as the original.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7526/13P1020537b.jpg)
The swivel base model

Now I could roll the car on my first pivot platform.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040707a.jpg)
Very first test of the swivel base.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040708a.jpg)
View of the swivel base down in the diorama.

After the first successful test, I can now build on the pivot soothes platform.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on July 20, 2011, 01:33:50 AM
Not bad. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on July 21, 2011, 07:10:15 AM
But it goes further and the last days I've spent so that the latch on of the pivot platform design, here are the first pictures.
(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040710.JPG)
Lock for pivot platform (locked)
(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040711.JPG)
Lock for pivot platform (unlocked)
Of course it works, and to my surprise, even better than the original.
Only it is of course quite finished yet, but that in between to watch, maybe even interesting.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on July 21, 2011, 02:42:56 PM
Pretty cool. I like the concept of the pivot platform -- kind of a small turntable for tight spaces.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on August 08, 2011, 03:54:23 PM
Hi Ray,

thank you very much, here is the continuation of modeling.

Since I do want to build this army field in the model railroad track, I have worried only once a pattern of an original.
(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7526/13P1040763.JPG)
Army Field Railway Track

First I have the clamps built on the model to scale.
(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040724.JPG)
Clamping plates for army field railroad track.

Then after I built a pattern, a threshold model.
(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040768.JPG)
Army field model railroad track emerging patterns already primed with a rust color.

The sleepers are cut from polystyrene waste.
For the holes I have just as for the track made a jig.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040764a.jpg)
I start the Army field model railway construction.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on August 09, 2011, 02:18:31 AM
You have lost your mind.

In a good way.

Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: nk on August 09, 2011, 07:21:25 AM
nice work on the track details.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: marc_reusser on August 16, 2011, 03:40:18 AM
BOAH!...super!

M


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on August 25, 2011, 08:10:09 AM
Meanwhile, I've been tinkering and would like to present the results here.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040773a.jpg)
Siding with the locked and Heeresfeldbahn thresholds.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040813a.jpg)
Siding finished with gravel.

Even on my boots so I Wascher busy with roof sleepers.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040770.JPG)
Etched as part of the roof threshold

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040772.JPG)
Connection via terminal plate with screws and nuts M 0.6, of course electrically isolated.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040778.JPG)
Roof sleeper track from below.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040784a.jpg)
Roof sleeper track with coin for size comparison.

The track is designed for the tunnel established by mine cars.

Of course, moving models offer even more and why I have built more quickly a spinner.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040789.JPG)
Turntable stage with electrically isolated rails.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040809a.jpg)
Circular track with a hub and sliding contacts for power transmission.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040814a.jpg)
Turntable fitted with servo drive.

So now is build it further, because on Sunday the 4th September, I want to show my model in the monastery gallery.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on August 25, 2011, 12:12:09 PM
Wow, that track is put together just like the real thing!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on August 25, 2011, 02:08:43 PM
Most satisfactory. Should you ever want to publish the diorama, I might know somebody who could help .... -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on August 26, 2011, 05:35:26 AM
This will be the completion take some time but until then I can still write the occasional report.

Just as there are only supplement once again a picture of a model of the turntable.
Ray, yes, such a construction is modeled after a challenge.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7526/13berggl02.jpg)
Monastery tunnel turntable with catch hills beyond.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040818a.jpg)
Servo-drive turntable view from below.

In collecting the hill then inserted and the drive of the turntable.

Russ, I think when I'm on is perhaps a more beautiful you are reporting.
It still lacks a lot of detailed work especially aging and weathering.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on September 03, 2011, 03:13:00 AM
Since I want to issue to-morrow on Sunday 09/04/2011 in my model convent gallery, I have the unit mounted to the sample times.

What a show day is always a good test for the Was Built To test for functionality.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040832a.jpg)
Overview of exhibition mounted.
As in the real tunnel monastery is also a registry office, I have such a scene recreated a photo after the ceremony, also in the model.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040833a.jpg)
Sample mounted for exhibition.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040835a.jpg)
Swivel base with aging, such as the prototype of the beams was also secured with a chain.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on September 03, 2011, 09:18:27 PM
Very cool! Nice to see an overall view of the model.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on September 04, 2011, 03:03:52 PM
g
Hi Ray,
But how can you look at the empty parking and presentation tracks, I must build more waggons for the presentation.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Malachi Constant on September 04, 2011, 05:49:33 PM
But how can you look at the empty parking and presentation tracks, I must build more waggons for the presentation.

Well, yes ... but these things take time!  Meanwhile, you have made a lot of progress on your model ... and it is becoming a very interesting diorama.  -- Dallas


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on October 08, 2011, 04:55:29 AM
Meanwhile, I have a lot of work at my house done, at the breaks my model make progress, but so it's gone a little further.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040900a.jpg)
Track not so empty look, has been built the Waggons.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13PC210340.JPG)
The wall is also produced from stone wall stiffeners.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040896a.jpg)
Meanwhile, the insight into the pit arisen.

Now it continues with the interior of pit and to color scheme ist the next Work.
Also on the Waggons, there are still a lot of work.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on October 08, 2011, 10:34:04 AM
Very cool!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on October 08, 2011, 01:28:20 PM
Masterful. But, as my wife would ask, "How much money did you earn from building it?"

Women!

Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: eTraxx on October 08, 2011, 01:54:19 PM
@Russ ...



Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on October 08, 2011, 03:17:42 PM
Thanks to you guys

Russ no money, but many happy hours model building.

Ed, this is fortunately not my problem, my wife has its own bank card.
To my account
::)


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on October 09, 2011, 01:33:30 AM
Just to set the record straight: My wife never asks for money. But she sees no point in spending any significant time on unprofitable pursuits. It's a cultural thing. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on October 09, 2011, 09:53:20 AM
As a small addendum, an image of the original coal mine.
(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7526/13P2020122.JPG)
In Future it should look so in to my model.
But first I must go now measure, so that I can really resemble the original.

Luckily I have the best wife in the world that accepts everything.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ken Hamilton on October 10, 2011, 10:29:26 AM
I really like this model.
It's a lot of fun to look at and I LOVE the turntable.
Wonderful work!!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on October 13, 2011, 02:55:39 PM
So it continues.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040911a.jpg)
View of shaft II, this view there will be so no more later.

But yes, I want to represent the workover of shaft II and for that I need miners.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040906a.jpg)
Basis for modeling, I use these Preiser track workers from 1900.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040910a.jpg)
By milling work and 2K spatula, and they were rejuvenated by more than 100 years.
It must still be made the painting.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on October 19, 2011, 01:34:03 AM
(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040951a.jpg)
What are the two workers to wait?


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on October 31, 2011, 04:12:28 PM
Meanwhile, I managed to finish the bucket and so the question is answered.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040958a.jpg)
The bucket goes down.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040959a.jpg)
Of course it works, and the slide can be actuated via the handle.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on January 12, 2012, 04:56:10 PM
Meanwhile, I've tinkered and a further bridge crane has emerged.

So I can then raise the bucket from the well and place on a wagon for emptying.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050074.JPG)
Bridge crane with bucket

Now it is time to construct the drive, because of course this model will be shown also in function.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on January 12, 2012, 06:46:47 PM
That sure turned out nice!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ken Hamilton on January 12, 2012, 08:25:46 PM
It sure did.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on January 14, 2012, 08:42:00 AM
You will not believe it but the time frame was really so.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7526/13P5280058.JPG)
Shaft II in the workover.

First attempt was actually originally the bucket of the transport of concrete had been used to raise the hoist.

Unfortunately, the chain was far too weak and also a tripod was set up.
With the reel from the brake mountain then managed to pull the bucket up.
Only you got the bucket is not empty then over the car.
Why then my suggestion that I have implemented the model with the trolley and hoist.
I can also implement the function in the model and make.

Only would the reel for the ropeway are far outside of my diorama and the drive ropes for the crane will simply disappear in the nothing I can find not so good.

Therefore I have considered the need for workover simply obeying an additional reel use of which are in the real mine also still more available.

As you can see, it goes with me and not from without compromise and imagination.

Moreover, the real monastery tunnels so often been converted and changed what I've sometimes been difficult to assign all of the appropriate age.

I had just started with little time to plan and build the photo above was my submission.

But I quickly copied some.

The crane is operated with 3 ropes, 2 pieces for front and back of the trolley and one for raising and lowering the load.

I have to build the frame 2 and 5 along transverse grooves milled in an MDF plate, and this also the same as used Lötlehre.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050081a.jpg)
Drilling and Solderframe for crane frame.
The standpipes have 2 mm diameter and 1 mm cross braces.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050091a.jpg)
Roles, hook and bearing block for crane.
In the 8 mm wheels I have 4 mm ball bearing with 2 mm thickness pressed one.
The hook is almost identical to the other and just cut from a 3 mm plate milled and then trimmed.
I have the bracket with the circular saw from a 10 mm square-worked brass rod, and then drilled on the milling machine.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050083a.jpg)
Rollers in the bearing bracket with the three ropes.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050084a.jpg)
Trolley with running and supporting role of 3 x 1 mm ball bearings.
Chop with the sheave.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050090a.jpg)
Trolley and crane hooks.
The hook itself is endlessly rotatable.
Thread M1 and M1,4, thickness 0.5 mm cable.

Meanwhile, I was able to test the function temporarily by hand and found that all the cables run properly.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on January 14, 2012, 12:35:13 PM
Very impressive miniature engineering!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on January 14, 2012, 02:59:27 PM
Satisfactory. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on January 18, 2012, 04:24:10 PM
So me no one in the shaft II falls into it and I have no problems with the competent department of the model for mining office get, I've begun to build a railing around the opening to the shaft.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050096a.jpg)
From one side milled flat plate.
As with the other rails, I've milled the grid of a plate.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050101a.jpg)
The finished machined and brazed railing.
The door and a brace missing see photo model.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on January 20, 2012, 05:57:41 PM
Since I've ordered once new drills and cutters, I have the waiting time to build a door for the demarcation of the entry in slot II

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050106.JPG)
The parts for the door.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050107.JPG)
The assembly took place in the welding and teaching deck.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050110.JPG)
The finished door is examined here and shown forth.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on January 22, 2012, 05:10:59 PM
Thereby having, I also have made ​​the hinges to the door.

Here I drew in part on a Frithjof technology (http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=1424.msg31005 # msg31005).

However, to see something different, as shown on the following image.
I immediately made ​​a hinge with two eyes.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050115.JPG)
Door hinges.
I've also attached a hole in the tape and at the door.
This allows much easier to position the hinges and dowels through the wire as the connection is even tighter.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050116a.jpg)
Shaft II with door shut, of course, to open.

Next I want to build down the ladder.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on January 22, 2012, 05:55:00 PM
The fence and gate turned out very well!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on January 25, 2012, 03:31:08 PM
Hi Ray,

thanks for the recognition.

I've now built ladders.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050137.JPG)
The ladder to descend into the shaft II

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050136.JPG)
Since I have worked so well built yet another equally needed ladder.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050122a.jpg)
Head in soldering tool, unfortunately, the photo is not so successful.

The rungs are made of 1 mm and the wire bars of 1.5 mm tube.

The lesson could be so also to produce a circular saw with adjustable cutting depth.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on January 26, 2012, 03:08:40 AM
No casual observer ever will realize or appreciate how much skill and thought and planning and hard work went into the details. Most satisfactory. (That ladder is just PERFECT, as are some other details.) -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on January 30, 2012, 03:14:10 AM
So now I want yet to even show a better picture of the ladder.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050144.JPG)
Head after soldering into Mastertool.

But there is a further and I started to manufacture the pulleys for the tripod.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050148a.jpg)
Pulley 1 half back.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050149a.jpg)
One half of the front pulley.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050150a.jpg)
Front and rear pulley.

The editing was done by both sides and I had to hold and align drilled 0.5 mm holes at the corners.
With an adhesive film layer additionally everything was kept.

The two halves are soldered together now and into the middle of a ball bearing is a pressed yet.

When I built all the mechanical parts, of course, still lacks the color, the weathering.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on January 30, 2012, 01:27:15 PM
Machining the pulley is beyond my pay grade. But the photo showing how you aligned the ladder parts for soldering is worth a thousand words. Thank you! -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on February 05, 2012, 05:53:49 PM
So it goes now I am working on with the tripod.

This frame is used for lifting loads.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050168.JPG)
Tripod head joint.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050173.JPG)
Three leg kicks and foot.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050166.JPG)
Small parts of the tripod.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on February 26, 2012, 11:28:42 AM
Are nowadays, I built underground in the shaft II continues.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050206.JPG)
Shaft II with insight into expansion.
The vertical pieces of wood were used in the original track as slats for the cage.
The thickness of the rear pipe for pumping water and other pipes for compressed air and steam to the different soles.

The rust on the beams is otherwise genuine.
In addition I have the Instant Rust Set of TRIANGLE used Crafts.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050212.JPG)
In any case, the two can finally begin with the sinking of the shaft and I fit into the model.

If you want to see my monastery tunnels once live, this can, moreover, on the  NUSSA 2012  (http://www.jw-modellbahn.de/html/nussa_2012.html) first time in 2012 03./04.März Stadtoldendorf do.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on March 17, 2012, 06:08:44 AM
Hello,
because my posts here know I have little resonance, the question is what this.

What should I do better or differently.
Or should I just leave it better, my work is just too interesting for this forum.

I admit that I had only a little English in night school, and therefore use the Google translator and so trying to explain my posts.

Personally like answers to as PM or e-mail.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on March 17, 2012, 12:45:55 PM
Personally, I think your diorama is very creative and well done. Your building techniques are excellent. I look forward to each post. Please do not go away or stop posting.

Maybe some of the experts here could help you achieve an even more realistic finish on some parts of the model (or a future model). If anyone volunteers, I hope he will keep the writing simple and use a lot of pictures.

Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: artizen on March 17, 2012, 04:11:11 PM
I have been following this build on buntbahn.de

Incredible detail and research.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on March 17, 2012, 07:11:08 PM
I too have enjoyed following along with this build! Please continue posting!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on March 18, 2012, 12:45:37 PM
Thank you for the answers.

I am well aware that I am with very different objectives, such as the majority of the members of this forum here run my model.

So yes I had to ask for even allowed to get a better understanding of the orientation of my posts.

My personal goal is the model, according to an authentic original Mine near my house.
It is also my goal to incorporate animated functional Scaled details with me because not only will the trains be the only thing moving.

I just bought 7 pieces model servos to exactly this to set.
This functionality is of course difficult in words and pictures to give back but maybe I manage this so soon in a video.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: artizen on March 18, 2012, 04:14:15 PM
Videos are good!

Looking forward to seeing them.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: fspg2 on April 10, 2012, 12:52:03 PM
At a German narrow gauge exhibition a few days ago Helmut showed his "Klosterstollen".
On a movie at youtube we can see many functions Helmut has placed to his great model. (from minute 4:05 to 7:40)
Click here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypwsl7UidLY&feature=youtu.be).


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on April 14, 2012, 04:37:46 PM
Hi all,

Currently, there are some news about my work bench.
As seen in the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypwsl7UidLY&feature=youtu.be) is moving with me not only the train but I have also tried other parts to design flexible.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050314.JPG)
Winch to lift the "Teufkübels" container.

Everything from brass and soldered construction, only the screw, the gear and ball bearings are buying parts.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on April 14, 2012, 06:59:13 PM
Really nice work! I enjoyed the video too -- loved all the animation!



Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: fspg2 on April 15, 2012, 12:53:51 AM
Where is the small winch placed? Do you have a photo to see how big it is?


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: marc_reusser on April 15, 2012, 01:55:03 AM
Helmut,

Please do continue posting your work and progress on this project. I think the subject, attention to detail, fabrication techniques and quality of craftsmanship is wonderful. I do watch and follow, but don't often post, because it gets old always posting "great work"  ;D  ;D....and like with Frithjof's work...the machining/fabrication techniques are far beyond my abilities, but I find it truly fascinating and educational to watch/see them and the results.

Thanks for posting the video. Great to see the layout in operation. Enjoyed seeing all the mechanisms in action.


Marc


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on April 15, 2012, 02:39:18 AM
I agree with Marc. How many times can you say "great"? -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on April 15, 2012, 09:07:52 AM
Hi all,

I would like to continue my story and show more pictures.
Once I had found that although I have all sorts of detailed pictures of the original of the winds, but unfortunately not a suitable overview photo.
So I'm in good weather with the monastery dog tunnels and have only once made ​​the pictures show.
Yet it is incredibly convenient to be a model for the model to have very close.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7526/13P1050316a.JPG)
In this view of the gear box is very nice to see.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7526/13P1050317a.JPG)
Winch shaft I in coal mine tunnels Park from the monastery.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050315.JPG)
Winds with the cover open and 1 cent coin for size comparison.
The gear box is fastened with screws M 0,8 and the ball bearing holder with M 0.6 screws.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050308.JPG)
The gear box with the holders of the ball bearings.
The small nuts have a key length of 0.6 mm.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050302b.jpg)
In the bearing retainer was cut M 0.6 thread so that it is possible to remove the drum once.

Hi Ray, yes, we're both in the model miners.

Hello Frithjof, just for you with a cents, I have also taken the extra large coin.

Hi Marc, I guess you could also just have time to train to come to me.
For me there is every Tuesday evening support for other modelers with building tips.
Perhaps I should also report the training times times, if it interests you.

Hi Russ, yes I think it's clear what you mean.

To all, if you have any questions as I do it then so very much like.
Otherwise, the wind is still not finished and it is for me to build even further and report.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on April 15, 2012, 11:07:16 AM
Wow! The machining of these parts is amazing! It's almost like making a watch.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: fspg2 on April 15, 2012, 01:31:39 PM
Well done! I like it! Fortunately, it is in scale 1:22,5!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on April 17, 2012, 03:39:45 PM
Hi Ray,

I am also volunteer for several years been in the mines and that experience inspired me again and again during the construction.

Hello Frithjof,
yes the scale and the scale of this are very important for me.

But now to my winds and how they originated.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050321.JPG)
Bending tool for wind frame.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050318.JPG)
Bending tool with 2 mm wire for the frame.
A 1 mm drill is used in the 2 mm drill bit as a stop.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050319.JPG)
Soldering jig for corner flaps in the wind frame made ​​of aluminum.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050325.JPG)
Meanwhile, the winds bronzed and mounted on the sample.
The use of ball bearings has proven itself, the cable drum runs very well.

Now I can make me more concerned about the installation and the actual drive and make the electronic control.

Of course, lacking even the color and aging.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Chuck Doan on April 17, 2012, 04:21:24 PM
Amazing for the build quality AND the  fact that it works.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on May 10, 2012, 04:25:16 PM
Hi all,

I have long pondered how I can solve this.

Was important to me to be able to drive all the way in digital form, but the top priority was the absolute reliability.

So for me, soon stood firmly with one servo control of  MBTronik  (http://www.mbtronik.de/).
Finally, I'm already so great experiences.

For this I have then determined the required stroke or way and have 3-speed servos chosen.
I have yet to be determined to the required diameter and then all put into action.

I would imagine the result today.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050364.JPG)
Hoist rope deflection to drive, because the servos are under the cover.
To ensure that everything runs smoothly, all ball bearing pulleys.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050367.JPG)
Deflection under the cover plate integrated into the wind.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050402.JPG)
Left and right drive for winch for the trolley.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050377.JPG)
Components of the trolley drive.

I need some fine tuning to make the program but as you could in this  video (http://www.myvideo.de/watch/8547766/Klosterstollen_Kranbruecke_Schacht_II) see everything runs quite satisfactory.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on June 18, 2012, 03:27:09 PM
Hi all,

it must go even further and so I take the time and build on.

On shaft II still lacks the trap doors, and so I started the door hinges to produce.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050582.JPG)
Door hinges for trap doors.
The door hinges have the following dimensions:
Length 3 mm, diameter 1.8 mm, 0.5 mm bore.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050631a.jpg)
Door hinges 0.5mm mounting holes drilled.
In addition I have built this tool from a 15 x 15 mm brass rod.
As a piece of dowel pins 2 old carbide end mills with shank diameter of 3 mm were used.
An M3 screw clamps everything.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on June 19, 2012, 01:38:03 PM
Remarkable. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: marc_reusser on June 22, 2012, 02:07:34 AM
Wow.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on July 04, 2012, 01:39:50 AM
Hi all,

now my project is again slightly better and hopefully it pays for an interim report for you.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13Schacht_II_Falltueren.JPG)
For me the design of individual components are as shown here for the flaps of the manhole cover in 2 D in the milling.
This has the advantage that I can use the data for the milling files very easily.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13Schacht_II_Falltuer.JPG)
Construction for the actuation of the flaps for the manhole cover.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050656.JPG)
Parts of the flaps for the manhole cover.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050672.JPG)
Parts of the flaps for the manhole cover soldered together.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050675.JPG)
Hinges for manhole covers are not cleaned.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050677.JPG)
Hinges cleaned for manhole covers and blackened.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050681a.jpg)
Manhole cover mounted on valves.

I can always combine with one another for individual milling files and all things in the right spot position.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on July 04, 2012, 02:28:18 AM
Impressive. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on July 04, 2012, 10:30:06 PM
Excellent!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on July 12, 2012, 06:39:37 AM
Hi all,

But unfortunately after with the hand repeatedly inflicts damage, I decided to automate the flaps and doors.

In order to facilitate automation, however, but I had to make some changes.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050688.JPG)
This is where new bands for the stable bay-barrier.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050715.JPG)
The bands are now ready to be milled.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050706.JPG)
Meanwhile, the bands are mounted and also a power to do so.
When soldering with the flame, not a good color burned on the railing, but what can be addressed again determined.

So now I have a brand new cover for the shaft to produce in order to automate the manhole covers can also.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on July 12, 2012, 04:50:53 PM
Look at those hinges! Lord have mercy!! -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on July 12, 2012, 05:00:16 PM
Marvelous!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: 1-32 on July 13, 2012, 12:44:06 AM
great project and great skills
this is right up my alley,i can see that you are having a lot of fun over a long period developing the scene.
it is so good to see something different-european modellers have that something that puts them apart.
regards kim


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on July 24, 2012, 03:25:12 PM
Hello,

first of all thank you for your interest and positive reactions.
So it goes on the shaft can be so closed for safety reasons.

So I set about to make the flap for the Manhole cover moving and for better functionality and just about servos.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050721.JPG)
Servo drives with brackets for the manhole cover.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050741.JPG)
Parts of the servo-cam for the damper actuator.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050740.JPG)
The servos with the cams to the valve actuator.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050728.JPG)
It is driven by a 0.8 mm 0.5 mm with associated parking Bowden wire in conduit.

Still missing the wooden panels so that it is really safe.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on October 02, 2012, 12:55:18 AM
Hello,

voiced by the health break, we go from here finally.

As you can see I could already see an exhibition.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050858a.JPG)
Visitors Stromberg 2012.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050892.JPG)
But this is not under construction, new tripod especially interested here, but what you will see in the next picture.

The stand consists of the remainder of tube sections 1, 1.5 and 2 mm in diameter.
All other small parts including the thumb screw on the top emerged tiller.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/8892/13Z21Ansicht02.jpg)
Yes the monastery stollen We now controlled with the Z 21 from the Ipad.

As a special advantage I see the opportunity not only to be able to wirelessly control the vehicles, but also at the same time, a visual user interface for all my support special functions.

The full course would also work with a cell phone or other tablet computers.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on October 02, 2012, 01:48:03 AM
The photo gives a good idea of the size of the diorama and, therefore, of the models. Much of what you do is very small and that makes it even more impressive.

The people in the photo look slightly younger and more fit than the typical American narrow gauge hobbyist.

Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: fspg2 on October 02, 2012, 04:39:19 AM
I couldn´t be there at the show in Stromberg unfortunately, but as Helmut was still a few days longer there on vacation, I could see many of the details at his Klosterstollen.
At the pictures things look huge ... but in reality scale 1: 22.5 is rather small :)


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: 5thwheel on October 02, 2012, 10:41:46 AM
What type of material are you using to make the ladder assembly jig from? I see you can silver solder on it with out it burning up.



So now I want yet to even show a better picture of the ladder.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050144.JPG)
Head after soldering into Mastertool.




Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on October 02, 2012, 12:06:50 PM
Hi Bill,

No, the ladder is only soft soldered and served as a base a wood fiberboard.
I got bored of the ladder rungs, 1 mm holes in the wire bars.
Therefore, the sprouts also keep only soft soldered.

If I with silver hard solder I use a fireclay brick.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1040693.JPG)

The parts I have not soldered secure a little gypsum.
After soldering with the flame I'll give a little water on the red-hot stone and this simply disintegrates.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: 5thwheel on October 02, 2012, 01:09:23 PM
Thank you Helmut,

I was hoping you used something that cpu;d be machined and yet used for silver soldering. I amusing a compressed material used as a liner in wood stoves.  It si about 3/4" thick.  It is soft enough to stick pins into for jigging but a bit too much crumbly to machine.  It does drill well.

Bill


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/minis-etc/Popcorn/3assemble.jpg)


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on October 03, 2012, 12:42:51 PM
Hi Bill,
which seems to be a very interesting material from which you report.
Unfortunately, this material is unknown to me and I would like to know more.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on October 03, 2012, 04:14:48 PM
Hello,

in the meantime I was able to finish the shell of my lamp stand out as much as 35 self-made items.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1050894a.jpg)

Now just fill in the LED's, the wiring and painting.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: michael mott on October 03, 2012, 10:54:48 PM
Helmut the material looks like soft firebrick it is crumbly but good for soldering, it can be shaped with coarse metal files easily for special applications regarding soft or hard soldering.

Wonderful job on the lamp tripod and lamps.

Michael


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on November 25, 2012, 02:38:01 PM
Hello mine train fan's,

I am delighted to see you all on a little virtual driveway invite in my Model Monastery tunnel can.

It goes to the entrance here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVwhBKVg92U&feature=youtu.be).

The film is a single from the film by Niklas Petau taken on Nussa 2012th


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on November 25, 2012, 02:52:46 PM
This entire project, from concept to execution, is amazing. The video puts it all together impressively. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Malachi Constant on November 25, 2012, 09:00:48 PM
Beautiful!  The detail and delicacy of that tripod lighting rig is amazing.  -- Dallas


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on November 26, 2012, 12:00:03 AM
Well done! Nice to see everything in motion.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Wesleybeks on November 26, 2012, 06:09:32 AM
I love that spotlight tri pod. Very well done.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on July 07, 2013, 04:45:38 AM
Thanks to a suggestion by Gil I started my track construction.
There should be a 5 m track with grooves thresholds in scale 1:22,5.
The track width of 600 mm results in my model 26.7 mm.
The model rail profile is S10 = Code 125 = 3.2 mm.

The grooves are thresholds of Thomas Engel.
First the etched sheet is then pressed in a mold to the profile.

But I attach importance to the electrical isolation of the rails.
The track will be used as a solid programming track for DCC on my layout.
That's why I glued a position of a tissue from the bottom of the rail profile.
The mounting brackets are machined from plastic and screwed tight with 0.6 m bolts and nuts.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13IMG_0444.JPG)



Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: marc_reusser on July 08, 2013, 04:42:16 PM
Beautiful piece. Looks almost exactly like the real thing (I actually thought it was when I first glanced at the photo). What material are the teis/sleepers (Schwellen) made of? Nickel Silver?


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on July 09, 2013, 12:52:22 AM
Hi Marc,

yes it is all made ​​of nickel silver.

Only until the confused looks something similar to the original one, I'll probably still have some work.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13IMG_0446.JPG)

Meanwhile, the track panel is assembled and blackened.

Now it only needs the rust to see how I can do.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: okiecrip on August 20, 2013, 07:53:24 PM
that is awsome :)


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on August 21, 2013, 01:43:52 AM
You just noticed? -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on September 02, 2013, 04:40:37 AM
Hello,

time for model railway exhibition on 07 and the DEV 08/09/13  (http://www.museumseisenbahn.de/index.php/de/aktuell/234-moba2013.html), I was able to finish my cover for my monastery Great model.

But see for yourself:

(http://spannwerk.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/614/medium/image25.jpg)
Once the model is clearly recognizable by the logo now.
Then it contains an LED lighting is also dimmable.
In addition, the aperture display is not installed, is running a presentation to the "Klosterstollen" model.

(http://spannwerk.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/614/medium/image26.jpg)
The other side also bears the logo clearly visible and a control monitor for the built-in video cameras.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on September 02, 2013, 02:27:28 PM
Congratulations on getting it ready for exhibition. I hope others will be as impressed as we are. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on May 12, 2014, 03:22:55 PM
Hello,

I have long ceased to report from my mine ..

But I wanted to do with my railings on.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7526/13P1060594.JPG)
For this I needed such a mounting bracket as handrail support.
Thanks to the proven magnetic tapes taking measurements is not a problem.
In addition, a few sketches with dimensions and the Self is nothing to prevent more.

Here is the mounting bracket for fastening the rail stanchion.
(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13IMG_20140512_213823.JPG)

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13IMG_20140512_213705.JPG)

Originated from 4 piece brass milled parts.
The length is 13.3 mm or 0.525 inch.

Otherwise, I've worked a long time on the electrics to fit the operation to IPad with DCC to.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on May 12, 2014, 09:18:43 PM
I guess you made that piece pretty perfect. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Hydrostat on May 21, 2014, 03:05:54 AM
Hi,

Helmut invited me to add an item to his Klosterstollen model. He sent this pile of wooden sleepers to me.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/9000/5715IMG_7606.JPG)


Those were going to be part of another pile. This one:


(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/9000/5715P1230122.JPG)


The pile served as  emergency stop for wagons running down the line from the waste tip.

 
(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/9000/5715P6070211.JPG)


Depth had to be reduced in the model. That's the result:


(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/8928/5715IMG_7633b.jpg)


(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/8928/5715IMG_7630b.jpg)


(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/8928/5715IMG_7625b.jpg)


(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/8928/5715IMG_7627b.jpg)


Band clamp is made from self adhesive copper foil, which was burnished and painted with Gouache.


(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/8928/5715IMG_7628b.jpg)


Cheers,
Volker


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: lab-dad on May 21, 2014, 06:46:23 AM
I really like this!
So simple but yet elegant!
I cant wait to try out all these scenery tips i have been seeing here!
-Mj


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: BKLN on May 21, 2014, 06:54:05 AM
Great color on the rocks, Volker!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Peter_T1958 on May 21, 2014, 12:23:28 PM
Great! This would be an ideal sample for stonework in my own area in my hometown.
It looks the same as in your work and I especially like the subtle greenish hue.
It is so: wherever I look, I see green stone walls. It's a fact, I used not to pay any attention before.
I thought that it would be an interesting project, to photograph the same wall month after month from the same angle to find out how much the colour of the object differs from season to season ...

Just a small remark  to the wood grain: It seems somewhat too pronounced to me ...

Keep up your inspiring work!




Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on May 21, 2014, 12:45:43 PM
I have some very old railroad ties in the backyard with grain as pronounced as what Volker created. I have no criticism of the model.    ...Yet. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Hydrostat on May 21, 2014, 12:49:30 PM
Thanks, Marty, Christian and Peter,

Just a small remark  to the wood grain: It seems somewhat too pronounced to me ...

you're absolutely right. Helmut prefabricated the sleepers including the grain the same way he did before for his model. We talked about that. It was Helmut's deliberate decision to forego an more realistic appearance considering all the other built in sleepers of the Klosterstollen would look somewhat coarse otherwise. I think he was right. And - funny tio mention: When Helmut started with this model in 2005 (?) it was state of the art!

It is another sort of wood (I have beech ties), which is very difficult to engrave at the faces. Helmut, what is it?

Cheers,
Volker


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on May 21, 2014, 02:06:11 PM
Hi,

the railroad sleepers are much older as Volker wrote.
About 30 years ago I created wooden sleepers for this model.
(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6281/13HSBMod01.jpg)
About 10 years ago I used the first thresholds for a diorama, which is the basis for my model today.
The fact is also that very old weathered cracked sleepers have already been used on the original mine, for construction.
When building my model I'm trying to build the state of 10 years ago after the originals.

I think it would be no good image result when I would use different styled timber for the model.

At the moment I just create the missing railings.
(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13IMG_20140521_161526.JPG)


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: eric on May 21, 2014, 03:09:19 PM
I like the lichen and moss on the rock pile. I really feel humid and cold to the touch
eric


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on May 21, 2014, 08:19:15 PM
Nice job on the rock pile, and the handrail! The texture and coloration of the rocks is excellent. The texture of the ties is also good too, assuming they are meant to represent old, heavily-weathered ties.



Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Franck Tavernier on May 29, 2014, 01:33:13 AM
Excellent work!

Impressive construction techniques used... ;)

Franck


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on February 10, 2016, 02:56:57 PM
After I had reported longer anything more at this point, I would like to raise the coverage again, especially since in other threads the topic Mining is shown.

As at any other mine also belongs to the Monastery tunnel compressor station which of course I also want to simulate the model.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7526/13P5280058.JPG)
Here, the compressor station next to the shaft can be seen, and as it will be also on my model.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/7526/13P1060452.JPG)
Here is another recent picture of the now displaced, modified compressor station.

But now to the model:
At first I tried simply to build plastic, but this proved to be very difficult due to the sometimes very low wall thicknesses, the compressor station. there with us an extra garbage can for recycled materials Fortunately.

So I resorted to the tried and tested for my material metal back and already with some cutting and bending, I could solder the station with the help of some brass scrap strip the model together.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1070821.JPG)

The roof was made of an aluminum offset printing plate.

Here is a photo of the items.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1070824.JPG)

By separating in assemblies of different colors, it is now easier to perform the paint job.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1070826.JPG)

Meanwhile, the compressor has received the first color.

Meanwhile, other small parts are as signs u.s.w. added.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13P1070829.JPG)

Watching are actually not all, since they are later on the back of the viewer.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on February 10, 2016, 04:13:52 PM
Helmut, You may have started modeling the compressor in plastic, then changed to brass, but your work looks like solid gold to me. Not only do your models look good and accurate and highly detailed, they are also sturdily constructed.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: 1-32 on February 10, 2016, 07:25:40 PM
hi helmut
looking really good
cheers kim


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on February 10, 2016, 07:35:40 PM
Another excellent addition to your diorama. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on February 10, 2016, 09:44:55 PM
Holy cats, that sure looks great! Hard to tell it's not full-size.



Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: lab-dad on February 14, 2016, 05:49:56 PM
The brass model is gorgeous!!!!
Great job
Marty


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Chuck Doan on February 14, 2016, 08:10:15 PM
Beautiful job.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on December 27, 2016, 05:22:45 AM
Hello,

I just wanted to report again.

With my monastery model I participated in the Miba competition "Ripe for the stage" and occupied a 3 place.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13Reif_f_r_die_B_hne_3_Platz.jpg)
Urkunde 3. Platz Miba Wettbewerb "Reif für die Bühne"

Reason enough to continue working. Inspired by visits to miniature wonderland, I would also like to install a button that the audience can use to trigger an expiration. For this I have chosen the shaft II here I have just tried to show the desired procedure manually.

https://youtu.be/MDs_atVZp9I (https://youtu.be/MDs_atVZp9I)

The sequence consists of a Piezotaster with green and red identification, after all, 6 servos and the light in shaft II. For this I looked for a control, which made this possible. I found this control in the Netherlands with PiCommIT and the OC32. The OC32 as can be seen in the next video can be controlled manually, via a PC or DCC. The OC32 has 32 outputs or inputs. This can be connected to buttons, switches, LEDs, motors or servos and magnetic articles. So everything you want to control or regulate your model railway.

In order to gain experience, I first built up a test installation with the OC32 and all components required for the sequence control at the monastery studs.

Then I am intensively involved with the manuals available for this and I also visited seminars offered by PiCommIT.

The result I can present here today the test installation works now flawlessly the process, but see for yourself:

https://youtu.be/XtMPWW7_M1c (https://youtu.be/XtMPWW7_M1c)

Now I can do the next OC32 in the monastery tunnels.

Since movements are best shown in the video, at the moment no pictures and only videos.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on December 27, 2016, 02:08:21 PM
Congratulations on the award and the electronic device is very clever. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on December 27, 2016, 02:21:37 PM
Congratulations, Helmut! Glad that your mine diorama is getting seen by a wide audience.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on December 27, 2016, 11:56:04 PM
Very cool!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: 1-32 on December 28, 2016, 01:51:36 PM
hi Helmut.
well done with your new model.
happy new year cheers


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on June 27, 2017, 02:48:57 PM
Hello everyone,
I build my model scale faithfully in scale 1: 22.5, according to a real model. Furthermore, I have not reported anything for a long time because of many other projects. Now I bought a SONY Cyber-shot DSC-QX100 and tested this on my model. I have times tried to take picture shots, which served me as a model as a model in the model as a similar persistence.

Here are some examples:

(http://www.design-hsb.de/berggl08.jpg)

(http://www.design-hsb.de/berggl08m.jpg)

(http://www.design-hsb.de/berggl03.jpg)

(http://www.design-hsb.de/berggl03m.jpg)

(http://www.design-hsb.de/berggl02.jpg)

(http://www.design-hsb.de/berggl02m.jpg)

Certainly everything has not been finished yet and much more can be improved.
Only my biggest problem building site the electronics, I could finally solve, because I can everything everything like doors, turntable and cranes put into function and now reliable over my mobile phone.





Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on June 27, 2017, 09:05:25 PM
Nice! I like seeing the comparison of prototype scenes with the model.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on June 28, 2017, 12:39:17 PM
Me, too. Your model a very accurate miniature of the full size tram. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on June 28, 2017, 07:24:32 PM
Nice work, Helmut. Thanks for posting the prototype photos to see how closely you constructed your model.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on February 10, 2018, 03:01:06 PM
I have long been building on my model of the Visitor mine “Klosterstollen”. The model represents the entrance with the mine railway into the “Klosterstollen”. I not only attach importance to model-like models, but to me, things have to work even more smoothly. That's why not only trains, but also all gates and cranes can still be moved. Meanwhile, it all works even via ITrain with Dinamo and Z21 controlled by the PC. This is because not some plan is executed, but the visitors start by means of key press functions and the operation itself.

At exhibitions I was asked again and again how does this actually look underground, in other words in the mine. As a supplement I plan a fiddle yard that is supposed to get on a sete then the terminus station in the mountain. However, there will also be concealed storage possibilities. I thought about presenting small scenes from the mine.

Just how I had thought for a long time until I got the right inspiration on Facebook. The Cakebox challenge of the British model Railway newspaper BRM was reported there. I read the conditions and thought class that fits exactly. The maximum size of the scene must fit into an 8 x 8 x 6inch cakebox.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox02.jpg)

The first difficulty began with the fact that there is no such cakebox to buy in Germany. I solved this problem by simply creating such a box of MDF myself.

Then the planning and the reflection began with which scene I start. I also decided again for a special company presentation. On approx. 1500 m studs, the studs go through an already 1871 fully walled zone. In the visitor mine, a pit wagon with a compressed air reel is pulled out of the tunnel at this point. As a pit guide I have demonstrated and explained this in the original many times myself. So, I can also use the 3d printed figure very well for it.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/CakeBoxGW01.jpg)

My design shows the bricked start of the tunnel of 1871. I drew the masonry after a photo of the original.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/StollenAusmauerung.jpg)

The masonry I will engrave in again in MDF. Everything should, of course, fit completely into a cakebox, but still consist of a box open to the front. Of course, this will hopefully enhance the impression of a mine.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox03.jpg)

The button with the green ring is a button that will start a small show. To do this, I will supply a microcontroller with a battery. The few SMD LEDs will hardly consume electricity. I believe that the issue will definitely be solved by a power supply. A servo will then pull the pit wagon out of the tunnel.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/CakeBox04.jpg)

In the meantime, I have made the first walls of MDF and ground them. As I write this here, on my milling, further stone strips are created for the stud lining. I would like to build the tunnel on the other hand like a hull on frames.

This is how I build a fully functional model-based micro layout in scale 1:22.5 with a 26, 7mm gauge to only 8 x 8 x 6 inches to complement my monastery studs.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on February 11, 2018, 02:14:54 PM
I love how accurately you plan your models, create the parts, and assemble them. Your work is satisfactory. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Barney on February 11, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
Well its different with atmosphere - nice workmanship
Barney


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on February 11, 2018, 04:14:08 PM
Many Thanks, Russ and Barny.

in the meantime, I have constructed further parts and milled them on the CNC machine. Of course, first of all, only the bricks with their joints and the outer contour of the components. Directly on the CNC machine I have painted all joints with acrylic paint gray. This is like a primer and first improves the MDF. With the roller shown in the picture then follows another primer in the stone color.
(http://www.design-hsb.de/CakeBox05.jpg)
For this I give a few drops of ocher and brick red on a glass plate. With the roller, the color is only roughly mixed by rolling and then rolled onto the MDF.
As desired, the color only reaches the raised areas, giving the stones a very beautiful, irregular base tone in the brick color.
(http://www.design-hsb.de/CakeBox06.jpg)
The many stone strips are intended for the reproduction of the lining of the tunnel.

Next up is the pedestal on which the track is coming, which, of course, will get a cavity by placing the OC32NG, which will then be responsible for the animation.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on February 12, 2018, 01:11:55 AM
Fascinating! I'm always happy to see more of your work on this mine.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on February 13, 2018, 03:21:30 PM
In the meantime, I have made the wall parts and the stone strips for the tunnel and put them together for the test. Of course also the cobblestone with "Schlegel and Eisen" and the year 1871.
I would like to use the diagonal to get as much track length as possible. In addition, by the slope of the insight in the actually much too short studs are not so accurate that are in the original finally 25m.
(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox07.jpg)
What do you think?


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on February 13, 2018, 08:13:08 PM
Looks great so far!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on February 19, 2018, 11:18:07 AM
Since I go to exhibitions more often with my “Klosterstollen” model, here are 2 pictures, how I simplified the transport.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13IMG_20180219_123246.jpg)
Transport my “Klosterstollen” model from the upper floor down and back.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13IMG_20180219_122247.jpg)
From the EC via a ramp to the car and back.

Thus, the transport is possible without outside help.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on February 19, 2018, 12:14:06 PM
Helmut, Your work is always inspirational to see and read about. The cake box mine view is no exception. I really like how you replicated the mine entry and how it will all fit diagonally in the box.Your storage and transportation method for the diorama is also impressive.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on February 19, 2018, 01:48:03 PM
Ditto. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Greg Hile on February 20, 2018, 01:40:51 PM
Ditto Russ' ditto. Very creative, both in design and logistics!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on February 21, 2018, 12:48:39 AM
Amazing!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on February 23, 2018, 07:30:15 AM
Hello everyone, here's something from my workbench for my Cakebox project.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/CakeBox08.jpg)

Meanwhile, I have been able to finish the lining of the tunnel.

The goal is a functional model of 8 X 8 X 6 inches.

Frame size IIf, scale is 1: 22.5 and the track width is 26.7 mm.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on February 23, 2018, 08:57:15 AM
Excellent, Helmut!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on February 23, 2018, 12:56:14 PM
Everything fits correctly, just as you designed it. That must be satisfying. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on February 24, 2018, 01:16:21 AM
Well done!

What is the texture or paint on that ore cart? It looks sparkly.



Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on February 24, 2018, 05:59:22 AM
hello, thanks for the positive feedback.
Ray, unfortunately I can not say how the car is painted, he belongs to a series of cars that have been given as a gift.
Although I have used the same base well for a homemade. I suspect there is still some of the gray base color after weathering.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on March 08, 2018, 01:40:56 PM
In the meantime, the shell for my BRM Cakebox model has been completed.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox10.jpg)
For the rehearsal I put the self-built of my BBA mining locomotive in scene.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox11.jpg)

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox12.jpg)

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox09.jpg)

Everything is to be disguised later so that as a sight and insight only the front view remains.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on March 08, 2018, 02:55:18 PM
That will be pretty spectacular when you finish it. Even now it looks great. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on March 08, 2018, 07:51:46 PM
Helmut, Your cakebox model is shaping up most impressively!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on March 10, 2018, 01:17:00 AM
Looks great! An impressive amount of work, but I'm sure for you it was a "piece of cake".    :)



Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Barney on March 11, 2018, 08:48:27 AM
Looking good - its got a bit of an ghostly look in the tunnel !
Barney


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: LesTindall on March 11, 2018, 01:18:04 PM
Perhaps a G scale "spook"!

Les


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on March 11, 2018, 06:05:38 PM
First of all thank you for your contributions.

I've used the weekend to build the model, of course it's not finished yet and especially in the photo is merciless to see where needs to be reworked. But try makes smart and it should go on. So a little bit of color and a little bit of gravel make up a lot.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox13.jpg)

On the far right is my first attempt to model rocks.

When looking into the tunnel, the wide-angle lens may have created something special, and I hope that I will not be classified among the G model makers. Because the size G applies in Germany, rather rough and my goal is to build in the building II and the goal of building Finescale models.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on March 14, 2018, 05:46:37 PM
Meanwhile, the small dioram has been installed in his box and I have made a first light test with RGB LED lighting in the box.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox14.jpg)

What do you mean too blue or?


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: 1-32 on March 15, 2018, 03:00:08 PM
hi Helmut love the bricks in the tunnel regards kim.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on March 16, 2018, 02:01:02 PM
Hi Kim,

Thank you for your contribution yes, such a brickwork always works well.

From Frithjof I got the tip to cover the RGB LED's with a yellow filter. For this I just painted the RGB Led's with transparent yellow paint.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox16.jpg)

Here you can see the result:

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox15.jpg)


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on March 16, 2018, 10:21:21 PM
Much better.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: nalmeida on March 19, 2018, 03:48:59 AM
Now it's starting to look like art. Wonderful.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on March 19, 2018, 07:37:08 AM
Thank you for the positive feedback, because for me it is important to see if you see it that way.

My mine model has a real role model in my place of residence. It is important to me to set this as natural as possible. Since it is a visitor mine, in which also functions of mining are demonstrated, I would like to do this in my model so. This will include a pit guide / miner who explain the place to the visitors and demonstrates the function.

In the original, the meaning of the historic place is explained underground and pulled the mine car with a reel from the tunnel. All this should also happen in my model. For this I need a sound module for the explanation and the noise of the moving mine car. Of course, this has to happen synchronously with the model's procedure. To realize all this I started to install the electronics.

Since everything has to fit into the 8 X 8 X 6 inch Cakebox for the challenge, that's not all that easy. For the power supply is a battery pack with 12 volts installed, but that can be switched on and off via a switch. In addition, the switch has another position in which an external power supply can be turned on. This is the first time the power supply is secured.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox17.jpg)

The central control of all processes is carried out by a Dinamo OC32-NG. This is a freely configurable sequence control system for model railroads with 32 I / O inputs and outputs. Since I have a resistance bank in the first bank, I can use it as an input, servo output or to drive a Led. I am already in a model making servo with which I would like to move the mine car. Since such a servo also requires 5 volts, there is the additional board SP04, which suppresses the servo signal and is responsible for the 5 volt power supply. But I also need 5 V DC for the AVT sound module which I also connected to the SP04.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox18.jpg)

Everything can be triggered later by the viewer himself by pressing the button on the front itself. In addition, there is a board with relays that serve security and exclude incorrect operation. Because even if the start button on the front is pressed several times, it must not come to any malfunction.

I have begun to wire the cable, but only finally complete the wiring when the servo is firmly mounted.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on March 19, 2018, 11:32:33 AM
Clever engineering; excellent execution. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on March 19, 2018, 11:50:04 AM
The painted LED lighting makes a good improvement to the scene. The sound and animation are also going to add good things to the diorama.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on March 20, 2018, 08:54:17 PM
Very, very cool! 


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on April 03, 2018, 07:21:30 AM
Time for an update.
In the original with a compressed air driven reel, a pit car is pulled out of the tunnel at the demo-site. Such a reel is of course not as a model, reason and chance to build this reel itself. Unfortunately, at the moment there are no options available to draw such a reel in 3 d in order to have it printed. Only my hobby is model making and I prefer to do everything with my possibilities myself. I was able to buy a engraving machine that produced a company called badges. This machine can be controlled via HPGL character files, which I can generate with a 2 D CAD software.

So, I create just a lot of items which then assemble to a whole.
(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox19.jpg)
The parts for the reel model.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox20.jpg)

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox21.jpg)
Shell of the reel as screws I used for mounting M0, 6 model screws and cut the tapped holes by hand.
There are still some very small parts that I would like to create but I am satisfied.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on April 03, 2018, 11:59:29 AM
Superb. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: fspg2 on April 03, 2018, 02:16:15 PM
I'm always excited about how you can mount such small parts with your huge hands ;-)
Great job!
Frithjof


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on April 04, 2018, 05:48:57 AM
Hi Russ, thanks for the confirmation.

Hi Frithjof, thanks for your question Yes there helped eternal training because I grew up with my hands together. Luckily, she stopped growing at the size 11 or XXL glove. Only if you are 1.94 m tall, little hands and feet would look funny too. I also do not use magnifying glasses, but need a good sliding lens. But you can look forward to more than this morning I was in the mine and bought some original charcoal to make the model authentic.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on April 04, 2018, 05:53:52 AM
That is another excellent functional piece for the diorama.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on April 04, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Superb craftsmanship!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on April 07, 2018, 12:31:05 PM
(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox22.jpg)
Meanwhile I was able to complete the model of the compressed air reel as you can see and it is now complete.

The fact that I arranged the track diagonally in the middle because of the largest possible length, the wall also yields a wider width for thrust. As a result, the water basin is still visible and so I have built it as well.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox23.jpg)
First I engraved the wall joints for the 3 wall parts with a 0.5 mm cutter in 5 mm thick MDF.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox24.jpg)
Then I milled the outer contour with a 1.5 mm cutter.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox25.jpg)
First sample of reel and water basin. The reel is now also mounted and blackened on its base plate. In the background the water basin, which in my opinion revalues the scene.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox26.jpg)
Finally, a look at the Cakebox model, which fits perfectly into a cakebox, but is far from finished.



Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on April 07, 2018, 01:24:10 PM
That looks very satisfactory and, when it is complete, should be even more satisfactory. The composition--how you angled the diorama into the box--really adds to its appearance. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on April 09, 2018, 01:22:58 PM
Ditto what Russ said! 


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on April 14, 2018, 03:23:49 AM
Russ and Ray,

I will continue to try everything not to disappoint you here, so see how it goes on.

In the meantime, I have completed the servo drive for the mine wagon. I used a servo which makes almost 6 turns. The included pulley moves about 500 mm of rope, which is about 100mm which I need far too much. So, I made the smallest possible pulley myself. I need 2 rope drums sitting on a shaft. A rope drum wraps the rope and the other one. The servo shaft has a diameter of 6 mm which results in the core of my shaft from a 7 mm brass tube. As a drum I use 8 mm brass tube which in turn fits on the 7 mm shaft. I fixed a rope drum firmly on the 7 mm shaft and the 2 is twisted bar to be able to clamp the rope.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox27.jpg)
The individual parts for the rope drums.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox28.jpg)
The two individual rope drums.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox29.jpg)
The assembled rope drums.

The model of the compressed air reel serves as a deflecting roller. Due to the size of the Cakebox, however, I have to divert the rope at the end of the tunnel one more time. Actually, wanted to use ball bearing pulleys. Just seemed to me this too elaborate and I have just times 2 mm brass tube which I have bent with a self-made bending device appropriately. As a rope I use 0.5 mm of scale rope from a radio. After the installation I tested it with a Servotester, which was to the full satisfaction.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox30.jpg)
Here is a picture of the mounted compressed air reel with the carbon seam at the bottom left.

The compressed air reel is now mounted and above all coloured, including aging. Since the underground in the mine is made of clay at this point, the compressed air reel is additionally braced with a support against the ceiling. This prop is also part of the model and was rebuilt and aged by me from brass.
Since the miners in the monastery tunnels at this point have stumbled on the coal for the first time and that is still to be seen there today, I have also modelled this with original charcoal from the monastery tunnels.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox31.jpg)
The servo drive with the two rope drums.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox32.jpg)
View through the tunnel to the compressed air reel with the 2mm brass guide tubes.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on April 14, 2018, 12:19:30 PM
Perfect, as always. A very unusual subject to model. You will attract a lot of interest when you display the diorama. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on April 15, 2018, 09:10:26 AM
Thanks Russ,

first test run, for my scale 1: 22.5 built diorama, the monastery tunnel extension. Controlled with Dinamo OC32 NG.

https://youtu.be/L6lAQRcGKzI (https://youtu.be/L6lAQRcGKzI)


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on April 15, 2018, 10:48:30 AM
Looks like all is working well. Was the flashing yellow light a warning signal before the mine car was moved?


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on April 15, 2018, 11:25:57 AM
Bill, this is supposed to be a neon light at the start, only the camera probably had a different white balance. The whole scene is illuminated with a whole 4 LED is supposed to come a bit of a mining mood too. Before that I had made a video with great light, only that did not work as I intended. However, there are still figures to be added as visitors who are still to receive the pit lights.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on April 15, 2018, 02:49:20 PM
Fascinating. I've never seen such a display. I guess all that remains is to detail the scenery and put the final weathering on the ore car. Adequate so far. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on April 18, 2018, 06:07:45 PM
Cool. The animation adds a lot to the diorama!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on May 05, 2018, 03:54:45 PM
As can be seen in the pictures, I have now installed and wired all the electronic components.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox33.jpg)

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox34.jpg)

In addition, I have configured the OC32 as the central controller and defined all processes. As you can see on the pictures, I also installed sound modules. An MP3 sound module provides for the original sound of underground rippling all the time. I already reported at the beginning that I have a scanned figure in the clothes of a Bergman. In fact, I have always explained to visitors the guided tours of the peculiarities of this place. So it was natural to do this in the model as well. Now I'm a participant in a British Modelling Competition Cakebox Challenge. Thus, the language should also be English. Only that was not enough for me, why can I not switch the language between German and English. So I wrote down a text in German and translated it into English. Then everything digitally recorded as a WAV file and stored in 4 separate files in a WAV sound module. Once there is the explanation and then warnings that I play separately so that they can run synchronously with the reel noise. Unfortunately, my first reel shots failed me and so I would like to repeat what thanks, the proximity to the monastery gallery is not a problem.


The model can indeed be operated with batteries to comply with the rules, but also to save energy and to protect the environment, I have optionally provided a power adapter.

Now I'm waiting for more figures because I need so well visitors who follow my explanations as a miner. There comes another peculiarity, I get scanned characters from real friends. The receive, then just like the miner, a miner's lamp will burn naturally. Then comes once again, additional wiring to me.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on May 06, 2018, 12:53:36 AM
Helmut, the electronics for your display are more complicated than my computer! -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Lawton Maner on May 06, 2018, 08:19:27 AM
One more resistor and you are going to have move the diorama into a box for a wedding cake.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on May 06, 2018, 01:33:20 PM
Helmut, Your shoebox is going to be a very active diorama! Looks good!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: 1-32 on May 07, 2018, 12:18:32 PM
hi Helmut very nice,i have always liked your box of tricks,cheers kim


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on May 21, 2018, 08:50:56 AM
In the meantime, the first Model figures have arrived and the people concerned are allowed to identify themselves if they like it, because I got the startingset from my wife. However, it is agreed with the persons concerned and they are informed, but all are not active here in this forum either.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox35.jpg)
I already had the figure of myself, and that's why I had already primed it as white.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox36.jpg)
In addition, I also got myself once again as a trains and that also fits much better than the first attempt.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox37.jpg)
Sample in the Cakebox model.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on May 21, 2018, 12:47:00 PM
Which one is your wife? -- ssuR


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on May 21, 2018, 01:05:12 PM
Russ,

my wife is the one who gave me the 3D prints of the modelmaking friends.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6263/131trest10.jpg)
Or if you want to know it so well, next to the mine car in the picture.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ed Keen on June 30, 2018, 03:12:11 PM
Helmut, Great accomplishments in modeling.
ed


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on September 12, 2018, 02:13:53 PM
Hello,

after heat-free in the workshop and the family-related break, it can finally go on.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox38.jpg)

For the rehearsal I started with the character of mine and set it up for a rehearsal in the Cakebox model. The pit light is already tested and the connection is made via M1,4 threaded bushings in the legs. So the connection can be completely unobtrusive but very reliable.

Visitors can come and wait for their painting and design.

(http://design-hsb.de/CakeBox39.jpg)

The figures are 3D prints of real model trains that I personally know. Of course they were designed to pit suitable. During the search I had made sure that the clothing was ever suitable. So all needed really only a pit helmet of 2K plasticine was modeled. One had unfortunately only a top with short arms, and this could be modeled with the 2K plasticine to a jacket around. Now the primer follows. The wires are also in this case for the pit lights what is spent on the safety of some.

All figures have M1.4 mm threaded bushes in their legs, in 2 figures the figures are again pierced with extra-long drills and 0.5 mm brass wire was drawn in. The 0.5 mm wire is shortened and then the fine connection wires of the SMD Led's can be easily soldered to it.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on September 12, 2018, 02:33:59 PM
Helmut, your helmets and clothing modifications came out well. The pit lights on the figures will look good and add the the ambiance of the scene.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on September 13, 2018, 12:37:50 AM
Looking good!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on September 13, 2018, 01:52:11 AM
I don't think you have a model of Volker there.

Come to think of it, Volker has been absent so long maybe he was never real in the first place!

Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on September 13, 2018, 05:12:41 AM
Yes Volker is also missing from my model visitors, but Frithjof is there.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on October 08, 2018, 02:19:46 PM
Inch wise ibe my cloister cake box model completed and submitted to the  contest at BRM  (https://www.world-of-railways.co.uk/brm/information/brm-cake-box-challenge-klosterstollen) ,

I took part in the weekend at the Arge narrow gauge EXPO in Gmünd, here my presentation.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/CakeBox41.jpg)

The model itself is on the cake box which I have pasted with pictures of the image and the model.

The model shows an authentic user guidance, with explanation and move of a mine car. All this was realized by 2 AVT sound modules and a Dinamo OC32 NG.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Hauk on October 08, 2018, 02:58:08 PM
The model shows an authentic user guidance, with explanation and procedure of a mine car. All this was realized by 2 AVT sound modules and a Dinamo OC32 NG.


Thats one fine group of model citizens!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on October 08, 2018, 08:18:52 PM
You certainly deserve prizes for originality and creativity. Extremely adequate. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on October 09, 2018, 12:49:31 AM
That is so cool! It really turned out great!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on December 13, 2018, 03:48:33 PM
My biggest win is a possible extension of my "Klosterstollen" model.

And so my Cake Box has made its way into the "Klosterstollen" model.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/CakeBox42.jpg)

To do this, I first sawed a matching neckline into the "Klosterstollen" model.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/CakeBox43.jpg)

The Cake Box can be inserted into this section from the outside and, of course, electrically connected to the "Klosterstollen" model.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on December 13, 2018, 11:15:51 PM
Cool! Was that part of the plan all along, or something you decided on after making it?


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on December 14, 2018, 01:51:27 AM
Ray, the construction was actually a test, for an extension where I want to show the terminal station in the mountain. A concealed fiddle yard is also supposed to be used in order to be able to change trains. Above Fiddle Yard, more boxes of scenes can then be installed. The Fiddel Yard then joins the studs and then covers the opening of the box and so I can exhibit later with or without an extension. But first there is still a lot to do at the monastery tunnel, I have just started building trees.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on December 14, 2018, 01:52:52 AM
Very clever and creative. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Lawton Maner on December 14, 2018, 08:58:26 AM
Is that a tour group visiting the mine in the cake box set?


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on December 14, 2018, 10:00:18 AM
Lawton, Yes and I, as a mine guide, give a lecture to the visitors. In doing so, I implemented an original explanation of the mine leader in the Cake Box model, in German, English and Nederlands. With one of the original sounds of the compressed air reel from the monastery tunnel, a pit truck is also moved in the model.



Click here for the videos: Deutsch (http://www.design-hsb.de/Klosterstollen1871D.MP4) English (http://www.design-hsb.de/Klosterstollen1871E.MP4) Nederlands (http://www.design-hsb.de/Klosterstollen1871NL.MP4)


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Lawton Maner on December 14, 2018, 11:11:06 AM
Every tour I have ever been on in the UK or Europe has ended in the gift shop and cafe so at some point you can do a whimsical visit to the shop.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on December 14, 2018, 12:47:22 PM
Well, somehow all of this has to be financed despite volunteering. Only in the "Klosterstollen" is this far from perfected.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on December 14, 2018, 02:13:44 PM
Helmut, You are a good guide for the mine tour. It is an amazing "cake" you baked! :)


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on December 14, 2018, 10:38:57 PM
That's really cool. I love the lighting, especially the lights worn by the figures.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on December 15, 2018, 02:03:13 AM
I thank you for the recognition, yes the model also reminds me of my active time as a pit guide. I also wanted to show that a diorama can also be active and can be absolutely exemplary.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Lawton Maner on December 15, 2018, 05:21:29 AM
i'm not criticizing, I'm just teasing you. 

All exhibits of the nature of your mine need constant funding in order to survive.  I just feel the Europeans do a much better job of painlessly separating the visitor from their money then the American operations.  Some of the best special interest books in my library have come from the shop at the end of the tour.  Never to be overlooked is the collection of post cards many have, as the best historical photographs one can find on the particular exhibit can be found on the post card rack.

Many times when I work for the weekend of the equipment of the East Broad Top my last stop is the shop at the Rockhill Trolley Museum next door to get a snack and look through the book shelf.   


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on December 15, 2018, 04:39:22 PM
i'm not criticizing, I'm just teasing you. 

Lawton, Constructive criticism does not annoy me, but pleases me, because that is the way to improve.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on January 14, 2019, 07:14:15 AM
Hi,

Before a while I brought away bulky waste and there I spotted a coal bowl in the scrap container.
I asked if I could have the hut and took it with me.
The coal bowles reminded me of how I had dragged the things from the basement to the 2 floor earlier.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/KS00.jpg)

The other day Frithjof was here to visit me and he supported me in drawing a handling of it, thank you again for it.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/KS01.jpg)

Based on this data, I built myself a bending pipe.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/KS03.jpg)

I milled the process to sample from a remnant 0.2 mm messium sheet and was able to build a first pattern.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/KSB00.gif)

With the help of teaching and now made of 0.1 mm of new silver sheet, small-batch production could begin.
On the apprenticeship, the sheet is bent and then pinned with a little lot.
The actually soldered is then done.
In the next step, the handle is soldered to the spill with two 0.5 mm wire pins.
Then the floor is also soldered and below a wire bent on the bending tube for the lower end. This wire also serves as a stand around the bounded edge below.
The handle is also a milling part again and is also used with two 0.5 mm wire separators, which are bent over inside and so this remains movable.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/KS02.jpg)

For comparison soldered soldered bending part and finished coal shards.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/KS06.jpg)

Here the coal sheds from below, so that the Wulst from the 0.5 mm can also be seen correctly.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/KS04.jpg)

Size comparison a finished coal bowl in my hand.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/KS05.jpg)

After that everything still clean and blackp and already the small series is ready.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/KS07.jpg)

So now my little Helmut can fetch coal in the mine.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/KS08.jpg)

Exactly, because there is even real coal in the model.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on January 14, 2019, 11:26:35 AM
Helmut,  After many college football bowl games in the U.S.A. there will soon be the professional football "Super Bowl" but your 10 coal bowls are even more super. A very nice detail for your mine diorama!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: TRAINS1941 on January 14, 2019, 11:40:54 AM
Very nice.  Great work.

Jerry


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on January 14, 2019, 02:06:16 PM
That's an item that looks easy to build but, actually, is fairly difficult to make look good. Satisfactory. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on January 14, 2019, 10:52:23 PM
Very well done!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: 1-32 on January 17, 2019, 02:17:44 AM
hi, Helmut I would like to share some photos of your amazing models.
A while ago I had the opportunity to visit Helmut in Germany and spent some time in his workshop there was so much but here are 3 items that I feel sum up Helmuts amazing skill. cheers Helmut. But there is so much more it is the friendly collaboration that Helmut, Frithjof and Volker have that makes all the difference they help each other in an equal and complimentary way .i personally feel that is a great privilege to know each of them.
cheers Kim
(https://images56.fotki.com/v1664/photos/3/1816483/14515115/P1010360-vi.jpg).
(https://images12.fotki.com/v1667/photos/3/1816483/14515115/P1010373-vi.jpg?1547712135).
(https://images108.fotki.com/v1407/photos/3/1816483/14515115/P1010366-vi.jpg?1547712100).


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on January 17, 2019, 02:53:02 AM
hi, Helmut I would like to share some photos of your amazing models.
A while ago I had the opportunity to visit Helmut in Germany and spent some time in his workshop there was so much but here are 3 items that I feel sum up Helmuts amazing skill. cheers Helmut. But there is so much more it is the friendly collaboration that Helmut, Frithjof and Volker have that makes all the difference they help each other in an equal and complimentary way .i personally feel that is a great privilege to know each of them.
cheers Kim
(https://images56.fotki.com/v1664/photos/3/1816483/14515115/P1010360-vi.jpg).
(https://images12.fotki.com/v1667/photos/3/1816483/14515115/P1010373-vi.jpg?1547712135).
(https://images108.fotki.com/v1407/photos/3/1816483/14515115/P1010366-vi.jpg?1547712100).

HI Kim,

You are welcome to share photos of my work.

Just a shame that you live so far away, but you are always welcome in our circle and it is also a great pleasure for me to know you.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Barney on January 17, 2019, 03:57:29 PM
Inspiration - I have  always been a believer of those little bits and pieces  that make a model better
Barney


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on January 17, 2019, 10:55:17 PM
Great stuff!


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on January 18, 2019, 01:49:01 PM
Most satisfactory! -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on January 20, 2019, 04:14:49 PM
Happy,

I have never built a tree before and after I wasn't satisfied with everything there was to buy, I set out to build my very first tree.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/Baum01.jpg)
Here, 170 m 0.4 mm connective wire is in the works for a tree blanh of 500 mm height.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/Baum02.jpg)
After the finished turn out, I soldered the twisted wires.
Then I sheathed the trunk and thick branches with a flexible terrain spatula and then painted it.
The birch trees at the monastery tunnel had a strong moss growth and, of course, even stronger on the weather side. I took that into account when painting, of course.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/Baum03.jpg)
I started unloading at the top, as it can be seen less in the complex later.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/Baum04.jpg)
For the unloading, a matte birch holiday used spring from Mininatur for large scales.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/Baum05.jpg)
From the mat I cut myself in fiber direction about 30 mm wide strips.
From these stripes I cut off the right piece for each individual branch and glued it to the branches with tesa multipurpose glue.
The adhesive is solvent free and water soluble. I consumed about 0.3 m ² of birch leaves.

(http://www.design-hsb.de/Baum06.jpg)
The construction of my first tree has given me many happy model building hours. This means that the afforestation of the Klosterstollen model can continue to be operated.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on January 20, 2019, 10:05:05 PM
Really nice! Great job on the wire armature.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Lawton Maner on January 21, 2019, 09:25:31 AM
No green vests. That's a Health and Safety violation.  10 minutes in the penalty box (corner). :P


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on January 21, 2019, 01:38:30 PM
Why are those little men trying to bury your beautiful tree? -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on January 21, 2019, 03:31:16 PM
Hello Lawston, in Germany needs to be worn in work without machines, on plots, no warning vests.

HI Russ, the workers are supposed to dig planting holes, for another greening.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on January 22, 2019, 07:01:37 AM
Helmut, That's a very good first tree! I need hundreds of bare winter trees for one side of my layout. I am planning on making a few wire trees that will get the attention of the viewer but the others will be less detailed so that there is a chance of completing them all.
I meant to ask earlier. Is that a 3D printed basket that the workers are using or is it a real basket?


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on January 22, 2019, 07:19:33 AM
HI Bill,

Thank you for your feedback and the basket is woven from 0.2mm copper wire in 2 gorgeous relaxing days and then brooded.
The basket belongs to a crab cutter and serves there at the mast as a daily signal of trawling fishermen.

The twisting and turning of wire is about a third of the work, another third is needed for the coating, molding and dyeing of trunk and branches.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Lawton Maner on January 23, 2019, 08:40:35 AM
     The wire armature for the tree is certainly an "old school" method of making the core of the tree.  I have recycled electrical cords which have reached the end of their useful life because of the fine wire in them which makes them so flexible.  A touch of heat and solder near the base keeps everything from unraveling.   
     Once the core is roughed out, I cover it with brown florist's tape and then pose and paint it.  The tape gives a good base texture for the bark and unless it is close up fine enough for me using a mixture of artist's paints and Gesso I just paint it.  Still need to be able to carve a heart and initials into the bark in 1:48 scale. 


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on January 24, 2019, 08:46:09 AM
HI Lawton,

thank you for the recognition and suggestions. Yes twisting wires is old school and I still think the best method. Since I had no old copper cables I took iron binding wire that I had. This goes very well and even has an advantage of the thin wire is not quite as flexible and 0.4 mm wire fits very well with me on a scale of 1:22.5. Only I have built a birch and the cracking in birch bark goes ehr not and beech seem to me most suitable. Since all the trees on the "Klosterstollen" actually have their wildly total, there are actually no beech trees.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Lawton Maner on January 24, 2019, 09:15:16 AM
     In the smaller scales the electrical cord works fairly well.  One can use florist's wire which comes in a variety of sizes as the core for strength and carry the finer wires out to the branches.  Now that super glues are available everywhere the cheaper ones can be used to stiffen the armature's trunk. 
   
     I  feel that probably the most difficult tree to model would be a Willow.  The long slender branches cascading out from the trunk would be the challenge.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on January 25, 2019, 10:50:24 PM
The basket is hand-woven? Amazing!

One of these days I want to experiment with using wire to model some of the desert shrubs for my railroad, such as creosote bush. These are common in the area I'm modeling but so far I've found no easier way to represent them.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on March 03, 2019, 03:39:35 PM
This was my booth at NuSSA in Stadtoldendorf on March 2 and 3, 2019.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/1320190301_185802.jpg)

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/1320190301_191429.jpg)

I was particularly pleased that Frithjof and Volker had visited me there.

Modeling with wire was also easier for me, ultimately easier than I suspected. You just have to try modelling once.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Ray Dunakin on March 03, 2019, 08:57:49 PM
Cool! Very professional display, too.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on March 04, 2019, 05:01:39 AM
Ray, the excellent roll-up was designed by Volker.

Volker you at this point again thank you for that.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on March 04, 2019, 02:12:29 PM
Yes, beautiful and professional and excellent ... so please also post couple of close-up photos so we can see what the visitors saw. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on March 04, 2019, 05:23:04 PM
Hi Russ,
here the desired picture unfortunately is the text in German.

(http://www.buntbahn.de/fotos/data/6264/13RollUpKlosterstollen.jpg)

I have answers to frequently asked questions in the text.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on March 05, 2019, 02:08:41 PM
Thanks, Helmut. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Bill Gill on March 05, 2019, 07:21:41 PM
A very professional display, Helmut. Nice to hear that Frithjof and Volker got to visit you there also.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: 1-32 on March 06, 2019, 03:22:50 AM
looks all great Helmut I hope you had a great weekend
cheers Kim


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Design-HSB on March 06, 2019, 03:36:52 AM
Hello Kim,

yes you have already visited us and we have had a wonderful time together with Volker and Frithjof.
What could be more beautiful than meeting with like-minded people?
Too bad that we live here from the forum so distributed about the globe, but the WWW unites us here in this forum.
I still have the hope of meeting other forum members.


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: finescalerr on March 06, 2019, 01:05:28 PM
I'd be happy to invite everybody to my house for a two day meet including lunch and dinner. Unfortunately the location might be inconvenient for about 95-percent of you. -- Russ


Title: Re: My coal mine scale 1:22.5
Post by: Barney on March 06, 2019, 04:01:36 PM
Lovely presentation - a thing many modellers  fail in
Barney